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Has Nilsson turned the corner?

View Poll Results: Has Robert Nilsson turned the corner?
Yes 18 12.86%
No 13 9.29%
It's too early to tell 102 72.86%
It will never happen 7 5.00%
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12-18-2009, 09:52 AM
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Has Nilsson turned the corner?

I've always been of the mind that Nilsson definitely has the ability and all he needed was the consistency to make him a great player.

I was frustrated, like the rest of the Oilers fans, with his play over the past year or two, but ever since his concussion, imo, he has been playing great. He's helping to support the puck carriers, supporting the D, skating hard on the backcheck, and forechecking - not to mention his highlight goals.

It just seems like he has been making better decisions with the puck and better decisions in regards to his play overall.

Agree or disagree?

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12-18-2009, 09:55 AM
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I'm not completely sold on Penner yet....Nilsson isnt even on the radar

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12-18-2009, 10:04 AM
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Consistency is his big problem. But he seems pretty confident out there. Moreso than ever before.

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12-18-2009, 10:09 AM
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I'm not completely sold on Penner yet....Nilsson isnt even on the radar
how is it that penner hasn't sold you on his ability to be a elite powerforward exactly??

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12-18-2009, 10:12 AM
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I'm not completely sold on Penner yet....Nilsson isnt even on the radar
+1

I need 2 seasons of good playing before I can call either one a changed player.

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12-18-2009, 10:12 AM
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how is it that penner hasn't sold you on his ability to be a elite powerforward exactly??

You aren't that until you are able to put 2 yrs in a row of what he is doing.

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12-18-2009, 10:16 AM
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I vote waaaaaay too early to make an assessment. I'll enjoy his play for the moment, but reserve judgement till sometime in say, March.

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12-18-2009, 10:20 AM
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way too early....remember how good Nilsson was at the end of the 07-08 season and was rewarded with that contract?

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12-18-2009, 10:29 AM
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If Nilsson has in fact turned the corner, and is ready to play at his present level game in and game out, bye bye Hemsky.

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12-18-2009, 10:34 AM
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If Nilsson has in fact turned the corner, and is ready to play at his present level game in and game out, bye bye Hemsky.
yeah right.
that dude has shown nothing to dominate a guy with his skills. Hemsky might only do it once in a while, but Nilsson doesnt even come close to carrying a team - just because he has a decent stretch of points. that dude has a LONG way to go at proving that.

hes like a Maxim Afinogenov of the Oilers. shows up once ever 3 years and then goes invisible for the rest of his life.

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12-18-2009, 11:03 AM
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yeah right.
that dude has shown nothing to dominate a guy with his skills. Hemsky might only do it once in a while, but Nilsson doesnt even come close to carrying a team - just because he has a decent stretch of points. that dude has a LONG way to go at proving that.

hes like a Maxim Afinogenov of the Oilers. shows up once ever 3 years and then goes invisible for the rest of his life.
I'm not saying that Nilsson can carry the team right now, but he could become a major piece. I'm tired of hearing for the last 4 years how they need to find someone to play with Hemsky. That's why they always pass on so many players each summer, trying to land the big fish. I think Nilsson could continue to grow and improve with the present line up. Hemsky, not so much. Nilsson seems to be capable of incorporating other players into his game. Hemsky, not so much.

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12-18-2009, 11:14 AM
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If Nilsson stock is going up so that the Oilers are able to mvoe him I would pull the trigger on him. Nilsson for Mueller would be a good project. Of if they want to clear a body take a 2nd rounder and run.

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12-18-2009, 12:22 PM
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It will never happen.

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12-18-2009, 12:26 PM
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Waaaaaaaay too early to tell.

80% of games with consistent play and we'll talk.

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I'm not completely sold on Penner yet....Nilsson isnt even on the radar
Couldn't agree with you more. Penner has to keep this up for a while before I "forget" about his previous years. As for Nilsson, if he plays this hard for the rest of the season, I could see him as a decent 2nd liner for the future, maybe.

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12-18-2009, 12:36 PM
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I got sucked in the first time into thinking he had turned the corner. When he did it for over half a season.

I think I will need to see him do this for 1+ full seasons before I believe it is here to stay.

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12-18-2009, 12:47 PM
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I got sucked in the first time into thinking he had turned the corner. When he did it for over half a season.

I think I will need to see him do this for 1+ full seasons before I believe it is here to stay.
Yep. I never got sucked in the first time and have never been fond of the player.

That said I suggested that guys like Sully, Nilsson, Brule would be able to pick up the slack in the absence of Hemsky. Also Comrie when he returns.

Nilsson has often been good in some assignments and for instance PP but as Quinn states his overall game still needs to grow.

As for the turning the corner I think we need to look at the nature of his contributions thus far. His latest goals have been instances where he was left able to walk right in on the goalie. Yeah he's very dangerous one on one with a goalie.

Trouble is you score a few goals like that and it gets noticed and clubs in time will start to mark you closer. After the 07 success Nilsson and Gagner received more marking. They were unable to sustain anything with increased coverage,

A player only turns the corner in the NHL if they can sustain their play against focused opposition.

Nilsson is now only earning the focus again. Until now he's not even been on recent radar for opponents. i.e. his name wouldn't even be on the "look out for" chalkboard.

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12-18-2009, 01:01 PM
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Although it's nice to see them playing well, I'm with the majority here. I need more than a good 30 games or so to say Nilsson or Penner have turned the corner. I need two full seasons or a full season and a great playoff run. Actually, two good seasons and a great playoff run.

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If Nilsson has in fact turned the corner, and is ready to play at his present level game in and game out, bye bye Hemsky.
My thoughts exactly. Tambellini should take his time and if Nilsson indeed plays consistently, it's time to move Hemsky for a goal-scoring center or winger with size.

I think out of Gagner, Brule, Nilsson, O'Sullivan, Hemsky, Cogliano, they should only keep 3.

Right now my choices would be Gagner, Brule and Nilsson.

Cogliano and Hemsky have good value and will return something good in a package or on their own.
O'Sullivan probably does not have a lot of value, but if they can land a Brule type prospect, they should do it.

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12-18-2009, 01:13 PM
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Although it's nice to see them playing well, I'm with the majority here. I need more than a good 30 games or so to say Nilsson or Penner have turned the corner. I need two full seasons or a full season and a great playoff run. Actually, two good seasons and a great playoff run.
And Nilsson isn't even to close to having a good 30 games yet.

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12-18-2009, 01:25 PM
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I thought he "turned the corner" two years ago.

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If he keeps this up for another 40 games Ill say hes turned the corner.

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12-18-2009, 01:36 PM
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I'm not saying that Nilsson can carry the team right now, but he could become a major piece. I'm tired of hearing for the last 4 years how they need to find someone to play with Hemsky. That's why they always pass on so many players each summer, trying to land the big fish. I think Nilsson could continue to grow and improve with the present line up. Hemsky, not so much. Nilsson seems to be capable of incorporating other players into his game. Hemsky, not so much.
Comparing Nilsson to Hemsky and saying Nilsson is the better player going forward is nonsense. I hope Rowbear can find his game again but he currently isn't half the player Hemsky is. I mean what are you basing this on, the last 3 or 4 games.

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12-18-2009, 01:40 PM
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I always liked Rowber. If anything he was a victum of Comrie signing, to many small forwards. To me he has always been a 50-60 point player that just needs a regular spot on the roster.

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For sure I think Nilsson has played his way onto team sweden for the olympics too.

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