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12-19-2009, 11:13 AM
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Re-signing the Blues' RFAs

JR reported a few days ago that the Blues had begun talking to EJ's agent (same agent as Kane and Toews) about his extension. Here are the Blues' upcoming RFAs:

Player - Current Cap Hit

Erik Johnson - $3,700,000
Alex Steen - $1,700,000
David Perron - $918,333
Cam Janssen - $550,000
D.J. King - $533,333

EJ and Perron are givens to be re-signed. Steen is a maybe, and I'm leaning towards yes, though the real question then becomes how much he's worth. Janssen and King, I have mixed feelings about. I'm not a fan of Janssen but we can't have an enforcer who gets injured and misses significant time every time he fights. I also don't see the Blues letting them both go.

So how much money do you see (or want) these guys getting and at what length?

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We have a lot more RFA's than that, just none as high ranked as those.

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Isn't Polak a FA?

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David Perron may want somewhere in the 2mil range. That's a modest increase for a player I don't think has shown his highest output. I assume Walt and Kariya are gone next year so you would think Perron would be relied on more heavily than he already is.

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We have a lot more RFA's than that, just none as high ranked as those.
Right, I just included the NHLers (although I guess you could add Junland, Strachan, Weaver, etc. because they see NHL time now and then).

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Isn't Polak a FA?
Not until next year. He makes $1m this year and $1.2m next year for a cap hit of $1.1m both this year and next.

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David Perron may want somewhere in the 2mil range. That's a modest increase for a player I don't think has shown his highest output. I assume Walt and Kariya are gone next year so you would think Perron would be relied on more heavily than he already is.
I would gladly give $2m for Perron if it's a multi-year deal.

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12-19-2009, 02:35 PM
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Perron would be smart not to sign anything until he hits FA. He would be a prime candidate for an offer sheet.

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IF Perron isn't traded before the end of the year, I'd let him him free agency and get an offer sheet from another team.

EJ and the Blues are talking contract now.

Alex Steen is a must IMO, I love Steen's game, he needs to be with skilled players and not checkers though

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One major omision above is Jonas Junland.
Two minor omisions are Nikolai Lemtyugov and Tyson Strachan.

I don't even know if we qualify Lemty, Strachan should be cheap to resign but Junland is an x-factor.

Perron and Kessell stats-wise aren't that far from each other, its probably a pipe dream to sign David for anything less than 3. This season might get him closer to 2.5

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Agreed, I think Perron will get somewhere in the $3mm/yr range. EJ, I could see getting $5.5mm/yr, but I hope it's less considering he's already missed a whole year.

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One major omision above is Jonas Junland.
Two minor omisions are Nikolai Lemtyugov and Tyson Strachan.

I don't even know if we qualify Lemty, Strachan should be cheap to resign but Junland is an x-factor.

Perron and Kessell stats-wise aren't that far from each other, its probably a pipe dream to sign David for anything less than 3. This season might get him closer to 2.5
He could be considered a defected player and his contract would be frozen ala Radulov. Now I am hazy on if the Blues would have to file a any paper work on their end to put that into effect or not. I imagine there is some red tape in that situation the question is just how much of it they went through for the remote chance he would come back and then actually make the NHL.

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He could be considered a defected player and his contract would be frozen ala Radulov. Now I am hazy on if the Blues would have to file a any paper work on their end to put that into effect or not. I imagine there is some red tape in that situation the question is just how much of it they went through for the remote chance he would come back and then actually make the NHL.
I would imagine they would just have to offer his agent a qualifying offer but I don't know how it all works. If his contract counts towards the max 50 they might just release him outright but if he is exempt fromt that # then maybe he is worth keeping around.

Radulov is still under contract (if I am correct)

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This should make things easier, I'll update this as time goes by and players are signed.

ST. LOUIS BLUES
PLAYERPOSCUR SALARYNEW SALARY
Johnson, ErikD $3,700,000 
Steen, AlexanderF$1,700,000 
Perron, DavidF$918,333 
Bishop, BenG$893,333 
Junland, JonasD $868,333 
Lemtyugov, NikolaiF$703,333 
Richmond, DannyD$625,000 
Toivonen, HannuG$600,000 
Strachan, TysonD$590,000 
Hellstrom, AlexanderD$586,666 
Reaves, RyanF$583,333 
Wagner, SteveD$575,000 
Drazenovic, NicholasF$571,666 
Talbot, JulianF$550,000 
King, D.J.F$533,333 
Cracknell, AdamF$500,000 

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12-20-2009, 12:16 AM
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If we don't get a new coach I could see the younger Blues players not wanting to play in St. Louis anymore. I mean why would Perron want to stay on a team where he is in the doghouse all the time, why not go to a team where he will get quality minutes and not have to worry about messing up? I really hope that Perron doesn't feel like that because he has the potential to be a star in this league.

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If we don't get a new coach I could see the younger Blues players not wanting to play in St. Louis anymore. I mean why would Perron want to stay on a team where he is in the doghouse all the time, why not go to a team where he will get quality minutes and not have to worry about messing up? I really hope that Perron doesn't feel like that because he has the potential to be a star in this league.
Unless our play changes, Murray will not be back next season. Maybe not even next year.

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If we don't get a new coach I could see the younger Blues players not wanting to play in St. Louis anymore. I mean why would Perron want to stay on a team where he is in the doghouse all the time, why not go to a team where he will get quality minutes and not have to worry about messing up? I really hope that Perron doesn't feel like that because he has the potential to be a star in this league.
That was my point, too. If I was a young player and if JD, et. al. is keeping Murray to save face, I'd want the hell out of St. Louis as quickly as possible.

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IF Perron isn't traded before the end of the year, I'd let him him free agency and get an offer sheet from another team.
Glad you're not running the show.

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Glad you're not running the show.
Why not?? Perron isn't the god that all the St.Louis Blues fans make him out to be....

Theres a ton of RFA's this summer I'd rather have then David Perron..

Alex Semin,Blake Wheeler,Nicklas Backstrom(Caps),Wojitek Wolski,Bobby Ryan,Ryan Kesler just to name a few......


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Why not?? Perron isn't the god that all the St.Louis Blues fans make him out to be....

Theres a ton of RFA's this summer I'd rather have then David Perron..

Alex Semin,Blake Wheeler,Nicklas Backstrom(Caps),Wojitek Wolski,Bobby Ryan,Ryan Kesler just to name a few......
you do realize that those players have to WANT to sign in St. Louis as well, yes? This isn't fantasy hockeyland.

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you do realize that those players have to WANT to sign in St. Louis as well, yes? This isn't fantasy hockeyland.
No sheet sherlock? I'm just saying, what makes you think that Perron will want to sign in St.Louis especially if Andy Murray is behind the bench at the end of the season?

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No sheet sherlock? I'm just saying, what makes you think that Perron will want to sign in St.Louis especially if Andy Murray is behind the bench at the end of the season?
well there you are preaching to the choir. As to your original assertation to actively not attempt to resign Perron and let him get an offersheet I have to agree with BB 24/7 and be thankful you're not running the show.

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well there you are preaching to the choir. As to your original assertation to actively not attempt to resign Perron and let him get an offersheet I have to agree with BB 24/7 and be thankful you're not running the show.
If I was running the show, Perron would be a Bruin and Kessel would be a Blue, I would've thrown in a little something extra to that deal that went down but Boston backed out of at the deadline last year.

Kessel on this team right now is alot better than Perron/Tkachuk

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kessel has 13 goals and 8 assists.

Tkachuck has 7 goals and 10 assists
Perron has 9 goals and 9 assists.

I mean so far this season those two combined have made a bigger difference than kessel would. and the way perron plays i think there will be a great upside to him later as he continues to develop.

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Perron will get at least $3 million. He'll finish with 25 goals. I just hope that Murray isn't still around, making him choose to go all the way to UFA. I hope Johnson doesn't do the same, feeling that Murray isn't a coach he wants to play for.

There's a rumour going round right now that this is what both players and their agents have decided. I don't believe THAT is true, but, they certainly will wait to see how Murray's (and the team's) situation progresses, before re-signing.

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kessel has 13 goals and 8 assists.

Tkachuck has 7 goals and 10 assists
Perron has 9 goals and 9 assists.

I mean so far this season those two combined have made a bigger difference than kessel would. and the way perron plays i think there will be a great upside to him later as he continues to develop.
Keith Tkachuk and David Perron have also played in 32 and 34 games consecutively.

Kessel has only played 24.

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