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Andrei Kostitsyn vs. Gilbert Brule

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Andrei Kostitsyn 96 60.00%
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12-22-2009, 09:48 AM
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Andrei Kostitsyn vs. Gilbert Brule

Who is better now and career wise?
AK 35g 10g 12a 22pts (24yrs old) (25 in a month+)
GB 33g 9g 13a 22pts (22yrs old) (23 in a week)

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12-22-2009, 10:29 AM
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Brule will be better career wise.

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12-22-2009, 10:59 AM
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Brule will be better career wise.
Okay, aside from having a Souray avatar and looking like a total homer by making such bold claims, can you at least give a reason?

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12-22-2009, 11:07 AM
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AK for me, too early to tell if Brule is actually breaking out or not.

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12-22-2009, 12:09 PM
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Not sold on Brule, give me AK.

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12-22-2009, 12:21 PM
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Not sold on Brule, give me AK.
Just because you dont like Brule doesnt mean you have to shoot him

Seriously, this is Andrei and its not even close.

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12-22-2009, 01:03 PM
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AK46 already showed that he can score 25 goals 50 pts. He have another 20+ goals season.

And lately 9 goals - 8 assists - 17pts in 15 games.


He is also much more of a gamebreaker than Brule.

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12-22-2009, 01:53 PM
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Brule is the better all around player, and is younger. His ceiling may even be higher. As long as he can keep it up, this is Brule for sure.

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12-22-2009, 01:58 PM
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Brule is the better all around player, and is younger. His ceiling may even be higher. As long as he can keep it up, this is Brule for sure.
..what?

Keep what up, being almost tied with Kost? That woud make him a better player for sure? The ****

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12-22-2009, 02:02 PM
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I'm a big homer and a huge AK fan but I honestly believe the guy can put up 35-40G with another 30A a year.

But with the way Brule is playing I could see him doing the same.

Close call but I'll be a homer and take AK

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..what?

Keep what up, being almost tied with Kost? That woud make him a better player for sure? The ****
Keep up his improvements. And he has been the better player so far this year. He plays both sides of the ice, hustles, and is physical. Now that he has gotten the chance, he is starting to score like a first rounder. I'd say if he continues improving (he's younger) he can be a 70 point, 2-way player.

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12-22-2009, 02:12 PM
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Keep up his improvements. And he has been the better player so far this year. He plays both sides of the ice, hustles, and is physical. Now that he has gotten the chance, he is starting to score like a first rounder. I'd say if he continues improving (he's younger) he can be a 70 point, 2-way player.
.. or not.

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12-22-2009, 02:21 PM
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I'm sorry but this is a terrible comparison.

Andrei Kostitsyn, drafted 10th overall in 2003, a player with 4 years of NHL exposure two 74+ game NHL seasons, two 50+ game AHL seasons with a total of 221 NHL games, 114 in the AHL, for a total of 335 professional hockey games played. Who had a breakout season in 2007 now almost 25 and starting to enter the prime of his career compared to..

A rushed prospect in Gilbert Brule, drafted 6th overall in 2005, has played 190 NHL games and 55 AHL games for a total of 245 professional games played. Who, up until this year, has had a tremendously hard time adjusting to the NHL game, has finally stuck with an NHL club and could potentially have a breakout season this year and is almost 23 years old, just under 2 years younger than Kostitsyn (and when dealing with prospects and experience/exposure 2 years is HUGE)

Kostitsyn has had more than 90 games of experience at the professional level, for all extensive purposes a full NHL season, two seasons he was playing in the top 6 in Montreal with the likes of Kovalev and Koivu. As I mentioned this is the first season where Brule is actually performing within a range of what was expected when he was drafted.

I would consider Kostitsyn to be an established NHL winger where as Brule is not.

If Brule has breakout season this year ask this question again in two seasons, maybe then this will be more applicable, as of right now this is a poor comparison.

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.. or not.
really thoroughly thought out response and all, but care to elaborate?

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12-22-2009, 02:42 PM
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really thoroughly thought out response and all, but care to elaborate?
Sure i can elaborate for you.

Gilbert Brule hasnt been better than Andrei Kostitsyn.

Happy?

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12-22-2009, 04:16 PM
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Lol this summer there was threads on where would Brule rank on the list of biggest busts. Now he starting of good (pretty much even with kostitsyn) and people would take him over a proven 20+ Goal scorer. Lol

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Who is better now and career wise?
AK 35g 10g 12a 22pts (24yrs old) (25 in a month+)
GB 33g 9g 13a 22pts (22yrs old) (23 in a week)
so you are going to start this poll and comment against everyone who picks Brule? How about you just let ppl express their opinion instead of forcing urs on them..

The value of players change all the time... I would pick AK now... but a month ago I wouldve taken Stortini over him. Last year I wouldve take Cogliano over Penner without thinking twice. Who knows what these guys would be like in 2 months..

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Sure i can elaborate for you.

Gilbert Brule hasnt been better than Andrei Kostitsyn.

Happy?
Do you have anything to back that up? They've scored the same amount of points. Brule has played 2 less games. Brule averages only 1:12 of PP time a game, and 14:36 of even strength TOI. Kostitsyn averages over 2:00 of PP time a game and 15:45 TOI at even strength. They are both 3rd on their teams in scoring. Brule has also been the best faceoff man on the Oilers. Both he and Kostitsyn are 3rd on the their respective teams in hits, with 55 and 60 respectively.

Now these stats don't mean Jack unless you watch both players play. Brule has played with more energy and enthusiasm, and has been a very important player on the Oilers. Kostitsyn has the better offensive toolset, but does not play with the enerygy that Brule has. Which is why I argue he's been the better player.

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Do you have anything to back that up? They've scored the same amount of points. Brule has played 2 less games. Brule averages only 1:12 of PP time a game, and 14:36 of even strength TOI. Kostitsyn averages over 2:00 of PP time a game and 15:45 TOI at even strength. They are both 3rd on their teams in scoring. Brule has also been the best faceoff man on the Oilers. Both he and Kostitsyn are 3rd on the their respective teams in hits, with 55 and 60 respectively.

Now these stats don't mean Jack unless you watch both players play. Brule has played with more energy and enthusiasm, and has been a very important player on the Oilers. Kostitsyn has the better offensive toolset, but does not play with the enerygy that Brule has. Which is why I argue he's been the better player.
Kostitsyn was invisible the first 20 games, or something like that.

Though, a month ago I'm sure the op would have choosen Brule. Brule is a good player, he might have finally found his game and throws his body around.

It was proven in the habs board that AK sucks in October. I believe December and January he tears it up, then goes back to sleep.

Andrei also has the ability to every so often take over the game with his skill set. Now, if he can either do well to start a season, or get consistency, he'd be set.

Call me a homer, but I'd take Akost. I like the fact that if he's not scoring, he's at least hitting. Though, Brule does too.

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12-22-2009, 04:44 PM
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Andrei had very slow start but it doesnt mean that he's played poorly. And he has picked it up recently. He will certainly have more points than Brule when the season ends. And half of Brule's points are because of Penner who basicly scored some goals by himself. (at least i think this is the case because when he was playing with Penner people was talking about it).

Anyways, the bottom line is that Brule hasnt been good enough just yet so i could call him better than proven +20 goalscorer.

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so you are going to start this poll and comment against everyone who picks Brule? How about you just let ppl express their opinion instead of forcing urs on them..

The value of players change all the time... I would pick AK now... but a month ago I wouldve taken Stortini over him. Last year I wouldve take Cogliano over Penner without thinking twice. Who knows what these guys would be like in 2 months..
Yeah, right, I can't reply to my own thread because it started out pretty slow? You're just finding anything to argue about right now.. And when people make outlandish claims I will call them on it, happy? No? There's a X at the top right of your screen.

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Kostitsyn had 5 points in his first 20 games, and 17 points in the next 15. When he plays, he's elite. It's just a matter of playing like that all the time.

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I like Brule a lot, but AK wins this EASILY.


And its not close.

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Kostisyn has the potential to be better, but if Im placing my bets - Brule has the better career.

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Brule brings way more intangibles to the game. If he ever reaches his potential or 90% of it and stays healthy he'll be one of the best penalty killers in the league and a 30/30 - 35/35 GP PTS player every year.

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