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Tomas Plekanec vs Henrik Sedin

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12-24-2009, 03:18 PM
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You are surely underestimate Plekanec's ability playing defense. Plekanec probably will win the Selke at the end of this season.
No, he won't. Saying this kinda stuff gives Habs fans a bad name

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12-24-2009, 03:19 PM
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A Sedin winning a poll? I don't believe it!

I voted Henrik Sedin btw.

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12-24-2009, 03:46 PM
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You are surely underestimate Plekanec's ability playing defense. Plekanec probably will win the Selke at the end of this season.
not a chance in hell.he's not even getting a nomination at this points IMO Kesler,Zajac and Fisher.

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12-24-2009, 03:59 PM
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You are surely underestimate Plekanec's ability playing defense. Plekanec probably will win the Selke at the end of this season.
Plekanec is a solid defensive player, but Kesler is better in that regard IMO

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No, he won't. Saying this kinda stuff gives Habs fans a bad name
You saw what Plekanec is doing on the ice defensively. In my opinion, he is doing it as well as Kesler, Fisher, etc. Why is it a stretch that he should not win the Selke? I have seen Guy Charboneau plays when he won the Selke and Plekanec is doing as well as Guy defensively. Why I am giving the Habs fans a bad name? If Plekanec is not nominated there is some injustice in the whole process. He is the Habs best defensive forward. Do you have to be on a checking lines with 40/50pts season in order to qualify for the Selke? If I said Cammy/Gomez to win the Selke then you can accuse me to be a homer, but in Plekanec case, he plays defense as good as anybody in this league.

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12-24-2009, 04:22 PM
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Henrik by far...

not to take anything away from the season Plekanec is having, but he'd have to play at his current level consistently for a few seasons before getting compared to Henrik.

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You saw what Plekanec is doing on the ice defensively. In my opinion, he is doing it as well as Kesler, Fisher, etc. Why is it a stretch that he should not win the Selke? I have seen Guy Charboneau plays when he won the Selke and Plekanec is doing as well as Guy defensively. Why I am giving the Habs fans a bad name? If Plekanec is not nominated there is some injustice in the whole process. He is the Habs best defensive forward. Do you have to be on a checking lines with 40/50pts season in order to qualify for the Selke? If I said Cammy/Gomez to win the Selke then you can accuse me to be a homer, but in Plekanec case, he plays defense as good as anybody in this league.
No offense dude, but you state multiple times that this is your opinion and then state that it would be an injustice if Plekanec didn't get nominated.

YOUR OPINION is that he is playing as well as Fisher and Kesler, just because you feel that way doesn't mean that it is correct.

Also just because Plekanec is the best defensive forward on the habs, doesn't mean he is selke worthy... there are 29 others teams who have a "best defensive forward"... and there are players in the league who are simply better defensively than Plekanec.

If Plekanec can keep up his defensive play by the end of the season, then i think it would be fair to give some consideration for him... but right now we aren't even half way through the season.

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No offense dude, but you state multiple times that this is your opinion and then state that it would be an injustice if Plekanec didn't get nominated.

YOUR OPINION is that he is playing as well as Fisher and Kesler, just because you feel that way doesn't mean that it is correct.

Also just because Plekanec is the best defensive forward on the habs, doesn't mean he is selke worthy... there are 29 others teams who have a "best defensive forward"... and there are players in the league who are simply better defensively than Plekanec.

If Plekanec can keep up his defensive play by the end of the season, then i think it would be fair to give some consideration for him... but right now we aren't even half way through the season.
You have good points. I have no problem when a poster present some arguments as you did. My point is that saying Plekanec is not worthy of a Selke at this point is a little bit premature. I was wrong also in predicting he will win the trophy because it is my personal opinion, but I do beleive he should be considered because he has played as well as other defensive forwards.

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12-24-2009, 05:47 PM
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You are surely underestimate Plekanec's ability playing defense. Plekanec probably will win the Selke at the end of this season.
It'd be nice, but it's not happening.

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12-24-2009, 05:58 PM
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It'd be nice, but it's not happening.
You never know. Who, in your opinion, will win the Selke this year?

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12-24-2009, 05:59 PM
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Henrik's defensive/pk game is underrated because he doesn't get much PK time at all. Every time the Sedins are on the PK, the puck stays in the other team's zone, and Henrik does have our only SH goal this season.

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12-24-2009, 07:09 PM
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You never know. Who, in your opinion, will win the Selke this year?
Kesler, Zajac, Marleau (all of whom are better defensively than Plekanec)

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12-24-2009, 07:23 PM
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I'm a Habs' fan and it's Henrik, no where close!

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Plekanec is doing all this in a contract year!

Henrik is doing it in year 1 of a 5 year contract.


There is no doubt Henrik is much better in every single way.

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Plekanec is doing all this in a contract year!

Henrik is doing it in year 1 of a 5 year contract.


There is no doubt Henrik is much better in every single way.
Your post would be taken more seriously if not for your username.

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12-24-2009, 08:14 PM
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Your post would be taken more seriously if not for your username.
But you have to agree it's Hank and it's really not close.

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But you have to agree it's Hank and it's really not close.
Based on career, right.

Right now? Its very close. There isn't a lot of players who played better than Plekanec in December.

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12-24-2009, 08:52 PM
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Based on career, right.

Right now? Its very close. There isn't a lot of players who played better than Plekanec in December.
Yes, and one of those players is Henrik.

December:
Plekanec... 13GP, 1G, 17A, 18P, -0
Sedin... 11GP, 2G, 17A, 19P, +6

So pretty much victory all around.

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Based on career, right.

Right now? Its very close. There isn't a lot of players who played better than Plekanec in December.
Plekanec 43 points but only 7 goals
Sedin 47 points 16 goals

I'd take Sedin this year also,right now if you were building a franchise and if you had to pick between the two it's Sedin and it's not close at all.

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Yes, and one of those players is Henrik.

December:
Plekanec... 13GP, 1G, 17A, 18P, -0
Sedin... 11GP, 2G, 17A, 19P, +6

So pretty much victory all around.
But then look at our PK in december, and look at who leads our team in pk time this season.

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12-24-2009, 10:24 PM
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But then look at our PK in december, and look at who leads our team in pk time this season.
Ya, that PK time really puts him ahead of the second highest scorer this season.

If you want to talk intangibles, Henrik is a full 2 points better in the faceoff dot, has three gamewinners compared to Plekanec's zero, and has scored a shortie.

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Ya, that PK time really puts him ahead of the second highest scorer this season.

If you want to talk intangibles, Henrik is a full 2 points better in the faceoff dot, has three gamewinners compared to Plekanec's zero, and has scored a shortie.
Well I'm talking about the 6th highest scorer in the league, not some 3rd line bum.As far as this season goes I think Pleks contributed more given his PK time than Sedin. Not saying it will continue past this year or maybe even this month, just that this year Plek has brought more to the table.

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Kesler, Zajac, Marleau (all of whom are better defensively than Plekanec)
I have not seen much from these players so I can not tell whether you are right or not. If you are right then Kesler, Zajac, Marleau must be insanely good defensively because Plekanec is playing very well in defense.

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Habs fan voting Sedin

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It wouldn't be irrational for Plekanec to be nominated for a Selke if, and only if, he keeps up his current pace for the entire season. He's a stud on the PK and in clutch situations (up 1 goal in the final minutes), usually playing 1 minute on every penality killed and doing very well in the process. He's often the guy who finally clears the puck out of the zone in key plays, and he's defensively sound when it comes to positioning in his own zone. All of that while maintaining a 1+ PPG.

Still, I voted Sedin. Both are padding my pool quite nicely though. But yeah no, Sedin.

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