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Quadrophenia or Tommy?
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Quadrophenia or Tommy?
I think Quadrophenia for me. Lemme get out the record player and double check.

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Quadrophenia or Tommy?
Tommy.

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No, you're not.

Although I'm not into death metal (melodic or not), too much growling going on. I would like gothenburg metal music wise though, if it wasn't for the vocals.

That's the maximum of growling I can take:
Death Metal is horrible. There's no musical value to it what so ever. Just a bunch of guys who can play fast and a lead singer who sounds like he's constipated and having a difficult time pushing a log out.

I like metal. Love Slayer and you know you're always going to get quality releases from Megadeth (I know I'm in the minority here, but I think they've made consistently better records throughout their lifespan than Metallica has). I also love stuff like Chevelle, Fear Factory, and Damageplan. Have to admit that I'm starting to grow on Bullet For My Valentine and Five Finger Death Punch.

However, I'm also a big fan of sleaze rock and Sweden's Vains of Jenna are very good, if that's down anyone's alley. They just hired a new vocalist and they re-released "Everybody Loves You When You're Dead" with the new vocalist (Jesse Forte) singing. It's pretty bad ass.

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New MGMT sucks, so posting some really old MGMT that doesn't really suck.

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New MGMT sucks, so posting some really old MGMT that doesn't really suck.
Definitely not as good, but I think its alright. Really hope they go back to their old style though.

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Man, sorry to be the guy that keeps ****ing on other people's music but that MGMT sucks too. They're like the kid in high school who goes over the top trying to force an image. No, I swear, we're totally weird, psychedelic and not manufactured pop. Yeah, sure, we're not good at our instruments and we rely a lot on technology for our music. But I'm dead serious, we've totally done drugs and are off the wall and cool. Please, I'm not kidding, we're really super cool... and weird.




I used to think I liked Quad and Tommy the same but I listen to Quad way more. Both are pretty flawless though.

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Man, sorry to be the guy that keeps ****ing on other people's music but that MGMT sucks too. They're like the kid in high school who goes over the top trying to force an image. No, I swear, we're totally weird, psychedelic and not manufactured pop. Yeah, sure, we're not good at our instruments and we rely a lot on technology for our music. But I'm dead serious, we've totally done drugs and are off the wall and cool. Please, I'm not kidding, we're really super cool... and weird.




I used to think I liked Quad and Tommy the same but I listen to Quad way more. Both are pretty flawless though.
I don't get the impression that they're trying to cultivate some contrived edgy persona or anything. I guess if you're particular about the musicians that make the music you listen to being super "authentic" or having virtuoso abilities on the instruments they play, then MGMT won't float your boat.

I honestly couldn't tell you **** about MGMT as people. I'm inclined to evaluate the results more than the method. If they need a computer to make great songs....well ****, let them use a computer (that's a skill too you know). Their records aren't changing my life or anything, I just like to put them on in the car...

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I don't get the impression that they're trying to cultivate some contrived edgy persona or anything. I guess if you're particular about the musicians that make the music you listen to being super "authentic" or having virtuoso abilities on the instruments they play, then MGMT won't float your boat.

I honestly couldn't tell you **** about MGMT as people. I'm inclined to evaluate the results more than the method. If they need a computer to make great songs....well ****, let them use a computer (that's a skill too you know). Their records aren't changing my life or anything, I just like to put them on in the car...
I don't know anything about them as people either but it shouldn't be hard to see my point. look at their latest album cover


and all of their music videos consist of the lead singer dancing shirtless in some color vortex. They feel massively phoned in to me. On top of all that their music is hacky and every song feels like a boring loop with whiny vocals.

I don't mean to attack you, just the lame knockoffs that pollute the musical airwaves.

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I don't know anything about them as people either but it shouldn't be hard to see my point. look at their latest album cover
I agree with you. Most of those bands in that genre are like that. I don't know what that genre is called but they are always on Jimmy Fallons show.

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I don't know anything about them as people either but it shouldn't be hard to see my point. look at their latest album cover


and all of their music videos consist of the lead singer dancing shirtless in some color vortex. They feel massively phoned in to me. On top of all that their music is hacky and every song feels like a boring loop with whiny vocals.

I don't mean to attack you, just the lame knockoffs that pollute the musical airwaves.


I'm not taking it personally at all. The analogy I always come back to is junk food. I wouldn't get upset if you came up to me and told me that my Dorito's weren't good for me or as delicious as filet mignon.

Me and my sister have this conversation all the time. She is sort of a music snob and I freely admit to her that I listen to some kind of awful stuff, just because it's catchy. Like her, I enjoy music as art...but I can also enjoy music as nothing more than vapid entertainment from time to time. I would never argue with you (or her) that my Doritos are as good as filet mignon, but I am still going to enjoy my Doritos (and I don't care if the guy that makes them is a culinary hack).

Serious question though: You're calling MGMT a knock off. That's a claim about people I usually dismiss because most music is derivative at least to some extent. Who in your opinion are they ripping off (clearest influence on the last album is Bowie I guess)?

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So I saw the Temper Trap/Kissaway Trail show on Saturday, and it was pretty ridiculous. The Temper Trap is pretty ridiculous live. I didn't expect a whole lot, but they were awesome, especially with their closing songs.

This sounded awesome live, and was the very last song they played:


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I'm not taking it personally at all. The analogy I always come back to is junk food. I wouldn't get upset if you came up to me and told me that my Dorito's weren't good for me or as delicious as filet mignon.

Me and my sister have this conversation all the time. She is sort of a music snob and I freely admit to her that I listen to some kind of awful stuff, just because it's catchy. Like her, I enjoy music as art...but I can also enjoy music as nothing more than vapid entertainment from time to time. I would never argue with you (or her) that my Doritos are as good as filet mignon, but I am still going to enjoy my Doritos (and I don't care if the guy that makes them is a culinary hack).

Serious question though: You're calling MGMT a knock off. That's a claim about people I usually dismiss because most music is derivative at least to some extent. Who in your opinion are they ripping off (clearest influence on the last album is Bowie I guess)?
I guess hacks should have been the word I used instead of knock off. Or used knock off in the sense of general musicians. As in they aren't really musicians, they're just knock offs using an image to sell rather than their music. They don't bother me because they sound precisely like some other band per se.

The Dorito analogy is pretty funny and I see what you mean, but come on, MGMT is no Doritos. They might not even be as good as store brand Salt and Vinegar chips

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If MGMT made more songs like "Kids" and "Time to Pretend" I'd be all for it. I can do without anything else they've done.

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Haven't listened to them for a while. Should be a sweet show however.

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I guess hacks should have been the word I used instead of knock off. Or used knock off in the sense of general musicians. As in they aren't really musicians, they're just knock offs using an image to sell rather than their music.
I still haven't seen any sort explanation for why you write their quirks, musical tastes or sense of aesthetics off as nothing other than a ploy to sell records.

Perhaps their image isn't this put-on, contrived sales device. Just maybe . . . they looked at a picture of a fox surfing on a wave that is cresting into his own face in the spectrum of the rainbow and thought it was neat looking. Even though you think it's stupid, that might be their image because it is actually who and how they are.

If you don't think the music is any good or that they have any talent, I can see how you'd feel that way. But if you're gonna say that they're essentially phonies...can you point to a reason why? Or is this just a gut feeling you have about them?

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If MGMT made more songs like "Kids" and "Time to Pretend" I'd be all for it. I can do without anything else they've done.
They made those songs and put them on an EP before they made everything else on Oracular Spectacular (which was solid but not as good as the two songs you mentioned). The only song they've made in the last three and a half years that I think is really good is Electric Feel.

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I find their loopy, repetitive, over produced, anti guitar, pro computer songs awful. I thought I already said something like that though.

As for the whole image thing, sure it's my gut opinion, but I'm forming that all by what they've done and how they present themselves.

It's like Vanilla Ice. Sure he could be this hard thug who everyone is afraid of and women are crazy for, or, he could be this phony chump building a fake image to launch a music career around. That little magical surfer fox thing and their whole charade reeks of phony. On top of their music sucking.

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I've never seen so much hate for any musical act based on their album art.

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I find their loopy, repetitive, over produced, anti guitar, pro computer songs awful. I thought I already said something like that though.
How can a song even be "anti-guitar"? Just because it doesn't have a guitar in it? Is being "anti-guitar" even an objectively bad thing? Is being "pro computer" a bad thing?

You did already say that though, and it is understood (though there is plenty of guitar on their albums). Your musical preferences are not really what I was taking issue with. By all means, reduce your listening habits to guitar-centric garage bands with ****** production done on a four track if that floats your boat and feels more "authentic" to you.

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As for the whole image thing, sure it's my gut opinion
It's a baseless one (just my thoughts of your opinion, obviously). It sounds to me like for some reason have a lot of contempt for them, or are annoyed at their success in spite of what you perceive to be a lack of talent . . . so you have a snap reaction to invalidate them as some shtick novelty act or a record label creation.

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but I'm forming that all by what they've done and how they present themselves.
You're being very vague. How have they presented themselves? If you don't like the stuff they make, that's cool, but what have they shown you of themselves as people that makes you think they arrived at the style of music/videos they make strictly as a decision to sell records, and not as a result of their own personalities? Again it seems like you're just lazily writing them off because you don't like their stuff. It's not like the music they're making is formulaic pop music. If they were in it just to sell records, kitchy records that sound like something Prince and Bowie would come out with after being shacked up for weeks and dropping acid.....that's not the most bankable strategy or sound...

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It's like Vanilla Ice. Sure he could be this hard thug who everyone is afraid of and women are crazy for, or, he could be this phony chump building a fake image to launch a music career around. That little magical surfer fox thing and their whole charade reeks of phony. On top of their music sucking.
It's a far bigger stretch to think that Vanilla Ice is the man than to think that two guys making trippy, old sounding music are modern hippies who sit in their basement listening to Al Green, Bowie and Cream records, smoking weed. It sounds to me like you've only heard the songs they have on the radio and not their whole album.

What would be an authentic or genuine enough album cover for you? A canned head shot, or a photograph documenting their everyday existence? It's ****in album art dude, it should be a little creative.


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Death Metal is horrible. There's no musical value to it what so ever. Just a bunch of guys who can play fast and a lead singer who sounds like he's constipated and having a difficult time pushing a log out.

I like metal. Love Slayer and you know you're always going to get quality releases from Megadeth (I know I'm in the minority here, but I think they've made consistently better records throughout their lifespan than Metallica has). I also love stuff like Chevelle, Fear Factory, and Damageplan. Have to admit that I'm starting to grow on Bullet For My Valentine and Five Finger Death Punch.

However, I'm also a big fan of sleaze rock and Sweden's Vains of Jenna are very good, if that's down anyone's alley. They just hired a new vocalist and they re-released "Everybody Loves You When You're Dead" with the new vocalist (Jesse Forte) singing. It's pretty bad ass.
Cannibal Corpse and co I agree. Utter **** with no value. Melodic death metal can be quite good (with musical value) but I can't get over the vocal style which you described quite fitting.

Never liked thrash metal, but I have a ton of respect for Megadeth and Slayer. Although I don't like their music, they maintained their identity and made good albums. Metallica is another story. Not talking about their quite possible sell-out (I hate that word), but their post self-titled albums were simply not good, not because they changed their style, just because they were bad. Style-wise I prefer post self-titled, but their 80's output was much better musical value-wise.

I'm more of a traditionalist. Black Sabbath and Judas Priest are my favourites. Iron Maiden is not bad either. I also like Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and Rainbow very much, although they might not be considered heavy metal by today's standards.

Maybe one of the best all-time:

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