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Group A • Dec. 26 • Latvia 0, Canada 16

View Poll Results: Who scores the first goal of the game?
Gabriel Bourque 2 2.53%
Jordan Eberle 25 31.65%
Taylor Hall 24 30.38%
Brandon McMillan 8 10.13%
A Latvian player 20 25.32%
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12-27-2009, 01:59 AM
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latvia beat russia...so that means we should beat the russians..what, 21-0?

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12-27-2009, 01:59 AM
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On top? That's like beating a retarded 6 year old to near death....and using that record to impress some other guy who beat a different retarded 6 year to near death. Well, we beat him worse....so we're better.
Good grief, please don't tell me you're comparing the Latvian junior hockey team to a "retarded 6 year old".

It's the same story every year: when Canada wins big (or at all) in the world juniors, nobody but Canadians care about this silly tournament.

In terms of the score, yeah 16-0 is very lopsided, but NOT unsportsmanlike. Would you have preferred for Canada to joke around/play keep away, thereby mocking the other team? How do you think the Latvian players would feel if their opponents thought that they weren't even worth the effort? Welcome to Division I hockey.

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12-27-2009, 02:08 AM
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12-27-2009, 02:45 AM
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16-0 isn't even fun to say. It's unsportsmanship at it's most extreme. Pathetic to say. Shame on you Canada, shame. At 8-0 dumping the puck and playing tight defence would've been the gallant thing to do. People mention lack of respect in todays game....wonder where it starts.
The funny thing is that if you asked, say, a European soccer fan, you'd probably get the exact opposite opinion - they'd say that a team that stops trying as soon as they've as good as won the game is showing a lack of respect for their opponent.

I'm not saying that you're wrong, only that these things can be rather subjective. Personally, all I'll say is that this is why I usually only watch the last few games of the World Juniors.

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12-27-2009, 02:54 AM
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I really like Gabriel Bourque after watching his 1-on-1 interview on TSN.

I know he has a really thick accent, but he comes off as a very modest and humble guy.

He ties the Canadian record, and he gives all his credit to playing with Cormier and Kozun.

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12-27-2009, 05:45 AM
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16-0 isn't even fun to say. It's unsportsmanship at it's most extreme. Pathetic to say. Shame on you Canada, shame. At 8-0 dumping the puck and playing tight defence would've been the gallant thing to do. People mention lack of respect in todays game....wonder where it starts.
The lack of respect would have been treating the Latvians like the children they were playing like.

Just because you have a nebulous grasp on the rules, don't come crying here with your crocodile tears.

We're the first team ever to run up the score? I seem to recall, Swedes do it, Russians, even occasionally the yanks, when they don't suck, run up the score occasionally.

Grab a rulebook, son, learn the international game. There's a big old world out there....

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12-27-2009, 06:24 AM
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16-0 isn't even fun to say. It's unsportsmanship at it's most extreme. Pathetic to say. Shame on you Canada, shame. At 8-0 dumping the puck and playing tight defence would've been the gallant thing to do. People mention lack of respect in todays game....wonder where it starts.
http://www.iihf.com/channels0910/wm20/format.html

Tie breaking formula

If two teams are tied on equality of points in the standings, the following tie breaking criteria applies:

Head-to-head (mutual) games between the teams concerned.
Overall goal differential.
Higher number of goals scored for.
Game Winning Shot competition between the teams concerned.

If three or more teams have the same number of points in the group, then their ranking shall be determined by the higher number of points in a special standing composed just from the results of their head-to-head (mutual) games. If the number of points is equal between the three or more teams in this special standing just from the results of their head-to-head (mutual) games, then the following tie breaking criteria applies (with no secondary return to the head-to-head results):
Goal differential in the standing between the teams involved.
Higher number of goals scored in the standing between the teams involved.
Goal differential from all games played in the group.

Higher number of goals scored from all games played in the group.
Game Winning Shot competition between the teams which are still equal.

Note: If two teams are equal according to all the above tie-breaking criteria at the end of their last mutual game in the group and their standing cannot be influenced by games to follow, this game shall be prolonged according to the regulation for over-time period in play-off games, just to decide the positions of the two teams.

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12-27-2009, 06:37 AM
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Lol. i read the first then last page of this thread. Alot of people guessed this one wrong. eheh. And Yes. Goal Differential comes into play in these tournaments so you won't see a team let up.

Switzerland should be a little better test but i see it ending up 8-1 or so.

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12-27-2009, 09:59 AM
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My thoughts on team Canada.

Brayden Schenn needs to pick it up. On paper he is Canada's top centerman, and was easily the worst yesterday. Heck I saw him turnover the puck twice in 1 shift against latvia.

Greg Nemisz is a pylon. The guy cant skate, cant hit, cant even score.

Alex Pietrangelo will be the tourney's top D. He was all over the ice, and seemed to not even be trying at times

Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Nazem Kadri and Brandon Kozun will end up being Canada's go to guys.

De Haan was pretty shaky yesterday, and even Ellis was just alright.

Good games from Scandella and Hamonic.

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12-27-2009, 10:57 AM
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There's a subtle difference between "sellout" and "full arena".

The tickets are sold in packages well in advance. You think 2,500 Saskatoon natives had something better to do than watch Canada steamroll a team they don't care about?
The attendace was less than 12,500. That means less than 12,500 tickets sold, not how many people were actually in the building.

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They would (and have) in other parts of the country. Minus 34? So? It's frigging Canada, people. And this tourney is the best boxing day tradition. I'm getting sick of hearing that excuse.

Again - hockey hotbed my ass. Get out and support the team!
They are tired, tired excuses. Just pathetic this game didn't sell out.

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The game has been sold out since last WJs. I tried to get tickets, but they were all gone. Hell, my dad is old buddies with the president of TSN and he couldn't get us tickets unless we pitched out tons of cash.
Clearly this is false. And I just checked on ticketmaster.ca and found 17 tickets in a row for the game against Switzerland Monday. So your dad and his buddies will be in luck!

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12-27-2009, 11:27 AM
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16-0.

How the **** did Russia lose to these guys? And how does a team like Czech, who pushed us to a 1 goal game, lose to the Swedes by 9; the team Canada crushed by 4?

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12-27-2009, 11:31 AM
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16-0.

How the **** did Russia lose to these guys? And how does a team like Czech, who pushed us to a 1 goal game, lose to the Swedes by 9; the team Canada crushed by 4?
They are kids?

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12-27-2009, 11:50 AM
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They are kids?
Latvia beat Russia because they are kids?

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12-27-2009, 12:01 PM
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Latvia beat Russia because they are kids?
Kids are more inconsistent. Part of what makes this tournament more enjoyable to watch is that the mistakes by kids create scoring opportunities.

I saw more odd man rushes in one period of Canada versus Latvia than I probably have in the last 2 or 3 games by the Penguins.

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12-27-2009, 12:08 PM
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Kids are more inconsistent. Part of what makes this tournament more enjoyable to watch is that the mistakes by kids create scoring opportunities.

I saw more odd man rushes in one period of Canada versus Latvia than I probably have in the last 2 or 3 games by the Penguins.
fair enough.

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12-27-2009, 12:30 PM
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16-0.

How the **** did Russia lose to these guys? And how does a team like Czech, who pushed us to a 1 goal game, lose to the Swedes by 9; the team Canada crushed by 4?
The answer: pre-tournament games don't mean a thing.

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12-27-2009, 01:07 PM
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Most teams don't play as hard as they have in exhibiton games

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latvia beat russia...so that means we should beat the russians..what, 21-0?
you can't win by association

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Blame the IIHF tie breaker rules for scores like this, not the players

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You should blame Latvia and whatnot for even entering the tournament every year if you want to ***** about something.

Fact: Goals matter. That means the more the better.

Quit crying.

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12-27-2009, 02:45 PM
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That is bull. They were avoiding any scan of the upper deck as much as they could. Even the lower bowl had large blocks of empty seats.
sellout =/= full attendance

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12-27-2009, 02:47 PM
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sellout =/= full attendance
It wasn't a sellout, there was less than 12,500 tickets sold in a 15,000 seat arena.

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Blame the IIHF tie breaker rules for scores like this, not the players
I totally agree.

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Is there a boxscore?

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