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Raymond vs. Wolski

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Raymond 15 24.19%
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12-29-2009, 01:05 PM
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Raymond vs. Wolski

Both are similar speedy, skilled players.

Who would you rather have?

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12-29-2009, 01:08 PM
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raymond now that he's finally breaking out

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12-29-2009, 01:32 PM
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Wolski now that hes finally breaking out.

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12-29-2009, 01:37 PM
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Tough choice. Raymond draws a lot of penalties using his speed, but Wolski is the more offensively talented player. It's tough, but I would give the edge to Wolski.

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12-29-2009, 01:49 PM
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Wolski is a 1st round pick, OHL player of the year, with top line talent written all over him.

Raymond is none of that.

It's really not a hard decision at all.

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12-29-2009, 02:18 PM
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Wolski is a 1st round pick, OHL player of the year, with top line talent written all over him.
Great accomplishments but ones that doesnt really matter today.

Raymond is definitely taking a big role this year but Wolski is still better.

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12-29-2009, 02:20 PM
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Tough but Wolski.

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12-29-2009, 03:07 PM
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Wolski has way more offensive potential.

This is Wolski easily.

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Wolski has way more offensive potential.

This is Wolski easily.
lol? but yeah i would pick wolski too

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12-29-2009, 03:20 PM
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I don't think Wolski has WAY more offensive potenial, I don't think this is easily Wolski. I think it's rather close actually. As far as who has shown more at an NHL level, I would have to give the edge to Wolski. If Raymond can prove to be consistant, which Wolski hasn't at this point, it might swing the other way.

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12-29-2009, 03:33 PM
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Wolski is a 1st round pick, OHL player of the year, with top line talent written all over him.

Raymond is none of that.

It's really not a hard decision at all.
What a sad argument.

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12-29-2009, 03:50 PM
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What a sad argument.
likewise

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Where they were drafted and what they did in Junior has no barring on where they're at now (Raymond was an elite player in NCAA FTR).

Wolski wins for now.

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12-29-2009, 04:07 PM
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First year full time for Raymond and hes been impressive putting up 17 goals in ~40 games. Wolski isnt far behind at 15 goals but hes got a total of 38 points compared to Raymonds 28. Wolski this season has been consistently on the scoreboard. Effort level has fluctuated but hes producing. Breakout year for both guys. Raymond is getting second/third liner ice time so if he gets more minutes he may put up better numbers than he currently is.

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12-29-2009, 04:17 PM
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First year full time for Raymond and hes been impressive putting up 17 goals in ~40 games. Wolski isnt far behind at 15 goals but hes got a total of 38 points compared to Raymonds 28. Wolski this season has been consistently on the scoreboard. Effort level has fluctuated but hes producing. Breakout year for both guys. Raymond is getting second/third liner ice time so if he gets more minutes he may put up better numbers than he currently is.
Classic case of importance to team and ice time. Still I would pick Woski he's also younger which I didn't know.

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Wolski is a 1st round pick, OHL player of the year, with top line talent written all over him.

Raymond is none of that.

It's really not a hard decision at all.
So by that logic Daigle is better than Zetterberg?

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lol? but yeah i would pick wolski too
Whats so funny?

I truly believe Wolski has way more offensive potential, especially as a playmaker. He's got a big size advantage over Mason, and he uses that reach and body to shield defenders off.

It was evident as soon as Wolski stepped into the league that his potential was enormous, it was just a matter of putting it all together.

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Whats so funny?

I truly believe Wolski has way more offensive potential, especially as a playmaker. He's got a big size advantage over Mason, and he uses that reach and body to shield defenders off.

It was evident as soon as Wolski stepped into the league that his potential was enormous, it was just a matter of putting it all together.
And Raymond is showing ''enormous'' potential this season in just his second NHL season on pace for nearly 40 goals with secondary duty. Size isnt an issue either the guy is 6'1 and 190 ibs.

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Wolski is a 1st round pick, OHL player of the year, with top line talent written all over him.

Raymond is none of that.

It's really not a hard decision at all.
my thoughts exactly

raymond is having a good year so far. after the whole year is done, and if he continues onto next year maybe i'll call it a breakout year. but wolski has more much potential and isn't just some speedy 4th liner/mediocre prospect who is having a good half season for a canadian team.

i think at best raymond could be as good as wolski, but wouldn't pick him over wolski.

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Wolski is a 1st round pick, OHL player of the year, with top line talent written all over him.

Raymond is none of that.

It's really not a hard decision at all.
Alex Daige was a 1 st round pick and the CHL player of the year ,does that make him better then,Pavel Datsyuk who wasn't a 1 st round pick.Weak argument but I pick Wolski.

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it's not a weak argument because there are exceptions. it's a fairly good argument. sure nobody is going to say daigle is better than zetterberg because of draft position, but when you got two players, and one is touted as a future 1st liner and the other is more of a fringe guy, it should take more than just one good half season alone to dispel all of the hype and scouting reports. because it's not like he really even looks better than wolski on the ice this year either.

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^Raymond is a 2nd round pick who was highly touted as an all conference all-star in NCAA. Wolski was a LATE 1st round pick. Horrible arguement.

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12-29-2009, 06:31 PM
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my thoughts exactly

raymond is having a good year so far. after the whole year is done, and if he continues onto next year maybe i'll call it a breakout year. but wolski has more much potential and isn't just some speedy 4th liner/mediocre prospect who is having a good half season for a canadian team.

i think at best raymond could be as good as wolski, but wouldn't pick him over wolski.
Neither is Raymond.

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^Raymond is a 2nd round pick who was highly touted as an all conference all-star in NCAA. Wolski was a LATE 1st round pick. Horrible arguement.
From different drafts as well.

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^Raymond is a 2nd round pick who was highly touted as an all conference all-star in NCAA. Wolski was a LATE 1st round pick. Horrible arguement.
Wolski was picked 21st, so mid to late I guess. But the only reason he dropped was for alleged "attitude" problems stemming from an incident at a party where he allegedly pushed a guy who was talking to his gf at the time. He was a top 10 talent in the draft.

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