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07-29-2016, 02:18 AM
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Parents at stadium - crazy stuff

I heard some crazy stories about parents, they watch their kids in the rink. Especially in the games.
There were fights between parents, rude gestures to the very little boys, not to say loud vulgar expression of their frustration with referees, coaches, opponents or even stadium.

It is only here or it is a common thing also in Canada, USA, Finland ...?

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It's the nature of minor hockey. It happens everywhere.

Every parent believes their child will be in the NHL. To answer your question yes it happens here in Canada. I've played hockey all across Newfoundland and its been in every single stadium. If parents feel their child has been slighted by the refs, been put in danger by another player by say a dirty hit, most will say something. Then it becomes a shouting match between parents

Really what it boils down to. At least in my eyes, is that parents are trying to live their own glory through their children. You really think the kids give a **** about the stuff their parents are getting on with in the crowd?

IIRC South Park did a joke on this. The father fights other parents in the stands, and when discussing it with his kid he tries to justify that his fights are bigger than the game.

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Sidney Crosby was chirped and booed by parents for a long time. Even Phil Kessels mom chirped Crosby when he was at shattuck. It's an awful part of minor hockey.
Also, I too thought of south park lol.

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That gets me every time
Same. I must have watched it 5x today just trying to grab the URL.

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Yeah, it's too common, but I'm not sure it's necessarily always the actual game, sport or incident as much as it is an outlet for other frustrations outside of the rink or arena.

I don't get how people get bent out of shape over their kids getting knocked about at hockey, football or whatever, it's gonna happen, it's part of learning and life lessons. Incredible that some people have their kids play a contact sport and are incredulous when their kid gets knocked or hit. It defies logic.

I think it's as much an outlet for people with maybe crappy marriages, a bad day at the office or debts coming out their ears and the like. They take stuff and take stuff and then find themselves in an environment where they feel less constrained and can vent.

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I will never forget the parent that used to go to our games who became known as the greatest fan. Every season he would lean not only every kids name on his sons team but the name of almost every kid in the league. During the games his son was playing he would loudly root for every kid (by name or number)on the ice. Whenever he was at the game it seemed everybody had more fun.

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If im correct, there was a serious incident few years ago. Some dad fight with another and it ended with a murder. I dont know the names, but it was also followed by the media.
And it was also mentioned in Simpsons, 15. series, episode The Regina Monologues.
Bart and Milhouse played a video-game, that ended with dads fighting in the rink.

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If im correct, there was a serious incident few years ago. Some dad fight with another and it ended with a murder. I dont know the names, but it was also followed by the media.
And it was also mentioned in Simpsons, 15. series, episode The Regina Monologues.
Bart and Milhouse played a video-game, that ended with dads fighting in the rink.
Thomas Junta manslaughter case.

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I remember when i was a kid watching my older brother play. He got in a fight once and the ref instead of breaking it up or just letting them fight, decided to grab my brother and basically tackle him to the ice. The ref stayed on top of him while the other player continued to keep pounding away. Well that's when my dad absolutely freaked out and was nearly over the glass!

But I don't blame him and don't consider it a crazy parent moment. I'd have done the same thing

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I was reffing one time and a parent went around to the players bench and tried to fight the coach
because his son sucked and was playing on the fourth line.

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I scorekeep at an inline arena and have seen a few incidents. Most notable one was during a travel league game between I think 12AA and 12A teams. Well the home team scores and I hear a sound on the home bench (I sit between the benches unfortunately although I do have the penalty boxes right next to me so I get to hear the chirping whenever players get coincidental penalties which I find hilarious ) that sounds like someone fell over, so I look to my right and two kids are punching each other in their face masks with their gloves on. So the coach breaks it up and sends off the kid who started it. Next thing I know the rink door opens and that players dad starts screaming and cursing about how the other kid should be in the locker room as well, just unloading into the coach (in front of a dead silent crowd of parents). The coach made a good choice, I mean if he sent both off they would've just continued beating the crap out of each other in the locker room. Refs and both coaches go off the rink to discuss the situation, game ends early and on my way out I see a cop walk in. I asked one of the players why his teammates fought and he said that the kid who started the fight was ragging on the other the entire game and the kid who was getting made fun of finally just told the kid that "You suck." and that's when the fight started. And this all happened while their team was celebrating a beautiful bar down slapshot from the point.

Other than that I've seen in the handshake line they do after every game, some incidents between coaches where they have to be escorted off because they start fighting in the handshake line or end up arguing face to face (like when a manager argues with an ump in baseball) after the other coach leaves.

I don't think players parents should be allowed to coach their sons/daughters team in any way because it's just annoying, some play favorites, others
are just plain asshats, very small minority I've seen actually just want their team to have fun and enjoy playing, but like I said a very small minority. It just in general makes it a bad environment for kids. Like one of them said to me, it's not like any of these kids are going to be in the NHL someday, some won't even make it on to the travel league team, the most important thing is to have fun and enjoy playing the sport. But on the other hand I have coaches in like 7U leagues cursing and screaming at refs for making a penalty call like its Game Seven of the Stanley Cup Final.

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If im correct, there was a serious incident few years ago. Some dad fight with another and it ended with a murder. I dont know the names, but it was also followed by the media.
And it was also mentioned in Simpsons, 15. series, episode The Regina Monologues.
Bart and Milhouse played a video-game, that ended with dads fighting in the rink.
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Thomas Junta manslaughter case.
This happened at my home rink, although it was the summer before I moved to town. It happened not at a game, but at a stick practice. Ironically, Junta went to the other dad to ask that the kids tone it down as it was getting physical (for a stick practice) and the other dad replied with "That's hockey". They had words, things got heated, then Junta left. Unfortunately he came back and things got more heated and became physical.


On another note, I'm also a ref and have seen my fair share of parents throwing nuttys because they thought we missed a call. I've said to many a partner that I think Squirt (U10) parents are the worst. They all still think little Johnny is going to the NHL.

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This happened at my home rink, although it was the summer before I moved to town. It happened not at a game, but at a stick practice. Ironically, Junta went to the other dad to ask that the kids tone it down as it was getting physical (for a stick practice) and the other dad replied with "That's hockey". They had words, things got heated, then Junta left. Unfortunately he came back and things got more heated and became physical.


On another note, I'm also a ref and have seen my fair share of parents throwing nuttys because they thought we missed a call. I've said to many a partner that I think Squirt (U10) parents are the worst. They all still think little Johnny is going to the NHL.

Definitely agree with this, some (most) parents are just insane when it comes to sports, not only are they embarrassing themselves, but their child as well. Feel bad for you as a Ref as well as those Refs that I work with, it must take a lot of mental strength to come to the rink day in and day out, knowing that you're most likely going to be the most hated person on the rink no matter what you do. As for the Junta case, that's just extremely sad and unfortunate that someone lost their life over a simple practice.

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On another note, I'm also a ref and have seen my fair share of parents throwing nuttys because they thought we missed a call. I've said to many a partner that I think Squirt (U10) parents are the worst. They all still think little Johnny is going to the NHL.
Yes this is 100% True.

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I don't think players parents should be allowed to coach their sons/daughters team in any way because it's just annoying, some play favorites, others
are just plain asshats, very small minority I've seen actually just want their team to have fun and enjoy playing, but like I said a very small minority. It just in general makes it a bad environment for kids. Like one of them said to me, it's not like any of these kids are going to be in the NHL someday, some won't even make it on to the travel league team, the most important thing is to have fun and enjoy playing the sport. But on the other hand I have coaches in like 7U leagues cursing and screaming at refs for making a penalty call like its Game Seven of the Stanley Cup Final.
I agree, but the problem is who else will coach the team?
There aren't many people willing to commit that kind of time and energy for a team they have no association with.
I don't think it's worth the headache dealing with some of the nutjob parents out there too.

A friend of mine coached a travel Bantam team with his brother (neither had a kid on the team).
The entire season they rotated goalies 50/50 regardless of who they were playing. It was every-other-game, all season long despite the fact that one goalie was clearly better than the other.
They get to the district finals and even though itís the backup goalies turn to play, they go with their 1A. They win it all, the kids are going nuts, everythingís great.
Except, as soon as they walk out of the dressing room the mother of the lesser-goalie berates both of them in front of all the other parents because she felt they screwed her son out of his turn.
The brother of my friend loses it on the mom reminding her that this is a travel team and they are under no obligation to play him at all.
Furthermore, he tells her that she should be kissing their ***** for giving him 49% of the starts considering that almost every travel team on the planet gives their starter at least 60% of the starts in the regular season and almost 100% of the starts in the playoffs.
Both of them were beyond angry. Here they thought they were doing her a favour and she throws it in their faces.
They never coached again.

Thereís so much dysfunction in youth sports today itís unbelievable.
Parents are way too high strung and put way too much importance on their childís success.
I read Phil Espositoís book and he said his dad didnít watch him play any of his youth games. He was too busy working. Gordie Howe said his dad didnít watch him play any game until he was a Red Wing. Sports was a way to keep the kids out of their kids hair.
Even now, I read countless stories from pro-athletes who say their parents didnít do much but encourage them and make sure they had fun.
I know there are some pros who had Ďthat parentí, but I think more often than not, itís the opposite.

My youngest son plays hockey, soccer and baseball and the only sport where there isnít a bunch of yelling and animosity is baseball. And I think itís because baseball is seen as a fun activity to do between hockey and soccer seasons. Nobody in our tiny little Canadian village has any delusions of their kid making it to The Show. Nor do they care. I swear, most of the parents would rather their kid carve out a career as a 4th line ECHL winger than a HOF MLBer.

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I swear, most of the parents would rather their kid carve out a career as a 4th line ECHL winger than a HOF MLBer.
Its Canada, hockey land.

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It's too common, but on the other hand it's not that common. My son has played for years and we've never experienced anything noteworthy on any of his teams. I've certainly heard about things though.

It seems to be more common on low-level competitive teams, or high level house league teams. There have been some high profile cases around here that have made the media and it's often Competitive B where the problems are. The lower level house league, people know they are not going to make a career out of it and are there for the fun, and at the AAA level there's too much to lose (the stuff at that level seems to get more political and back-room, rather than parents picking fights with the refs or other players).

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Funny as that is.... you have to believe that guy is like that outside the rink. It wasn't enough for him to break the glass, he had to curse after. I'd hate to cross him.

I never saw any violence in the stands or anything when I was playing minor hockey, though some of the parents were occasionally unbearable. The parents on my teams were always good, I was lucky. It was the opposing teams that were sometimes the problem. The worst ones were the ones who brought in cow bells, I remember we used to laugh at those parents on the bench. The angriest I ever saw someone was when I bumped into my ex-coach at a tournament. He told me that his son's team had just been put against a stacked travel team and got crushed. I remember he was shaking he was so mad at the organizers for allowing that matchup. I don't blame him, it's not exactly fun when you lose 12-0 against a team you never should have played against.

Anyone remember this gem? Embedding isn't working for some reason, so I'll just throw the link up here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6vPFI_kVgk


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Funny as that is.... you have to believe that guy is like that outside the rink. It wasn't enough for him to break the glass, he had to curse after. I'd hate to cross him.

I never saw any violence in the stands or anything when I was playing minor hockey, though some of the parents were occasionally unbearable. The parents on my teams were always good, I was lucky. It was the opposing teams that were sometimes the problem. The worst ones were the ones who brought in cow bells, I remember we used to laugh at those parents on the bench. The angriest I ever saw someone was when I bumped into my ex-coach at a tournament. He told me that his son's team had just been put against a stacked travel team and got crushed. I remember he was shaking he was so mad at the organizers for allowing that matchup. I don't blame him, it's not exactly fun when you lose 12-0 against a team you never should have played against.

Anyone remember this gem? Embedding isn't working for some reason, so I'll just throw the link up here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6vPFI_kVgk
'If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs..' is not just the opening of a Rudyard Kiplng poem.

I don't necessarily think a lot of those types are like that, or at least don't behave like that away from the rink of sports arena. They're often more likely in a constrained environment elsewhere where they have to be very conscious of how they behave, then all of a sudden they're 'at the arena' and nothing else matters. There, their kids and them can be the centre of the universe ..for them. They get tunnel vision, commenting on other kids while their own are making just as many or more errors.

I got a good buddy for 30 years from school who's a very mild mannered and pretty conservative guy, super hard working, highly paid and partner in a professional firm. I've never seen him out of order, but I went with him to watch one of his daughters play water polo. They are young kids, real novice league stuff where you get one or two kids who are a little competent and the rest who don't quite get there yet.

He's not losing his rag angry at anyone, but he's yelling and barracking for his daughter like it's the Olympics, to the point of probably being more distracting to his kid than constructive. Never seen him like that. I presume he was trying to be encouraging, but think it was more off-putting. He'd be far better just to give a little guidance if it's required.

I've never gotten parents that yell at their kids from the sideline what to do or what to improve on. There's a coach for that and if a kids team or a player has a weakness or deficiency that they haven't yet fixed at trainings, yelling out from the side during the game isn't going to transform them all of a sudden; at least I've never seen it happen yet. Shut up and watch the game.

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I have countless stories from when I played minor hockey.One guy that was always on my team throughout my youth had a crazy father.He was a severe alcoholic and violent.He would fight at least once per season with another father and then the police came.He got arrested a few times and someone else had to bring the kid home when his mother wasn't there.

I don't even think this guy thought his son would make the NHL.We weren't playing in the AA category and it was obvious his son was an average player in the A category.He was just drunk on his ass.

I did know a father who thought his son was going to play in the NHL.People tried to warn him that his son is not even playing AA and that while a fine hockey player, he was small, didn't possess that much skills nor dedication.Everyone knew it was probably child abuse.One can only imagine the kind of brainwashing that went on at home and forcing him to train and stuff like that.The boy didn't seem to enjoy hockey much compared to us.

But the craziest thing is when I was 15 or 16 years old.A bench-clearing brawl happened and it got very violent.Some escaped.But the fight continued in the lockerrooms (or outside the ice if you prefer).Police came, arrested a bunch of teenagers.I think many were high on speed or cocaine.Not a lot of parents were present at those age.It was quite scary as some of those guys, even though only 15-17 years old, were quite dangerous and clearly mentally instable.Before the cops arrived it was free-for-all.

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Funny as that is.... you have to believe that guy is like that outside the rink. It wasn't enough for him to break the glass, he had to curse after. I'd hate to cross him.

I never saw any violence in the stands or anything when I was playing minor hockey, though some of the parents were occasionally unbearable. The parents on my teams were always good, I was lucky. It was the opposing teams that were sometimes the problem. The worst ones were the ones who brought in cow bells, I remember we used to laugh at those parents on the bench. The angriest I ever saw someone was when I bumped into my ex-coach at a tournament. He told me that his son's team had just been put against a stacked travel team and got crushed. I remember he was shaking he was so mad at the organizers for allowing that matchup. I don't blame him, it's not exactly fun when you lose 12-0 against a team you never should have played against.

Anyone remember this gem? Embedding isn't working for some reason, so I'll just throw the link up here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6vPFI_kVgk
What a hero. Look at how scared all the kids are after he breaks the glass. They should throw him in jail. Imagine crossing him in a road rage incident?

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