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01-03-2010, 12:46 AM
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as I said--Hemsky injury is the killer

Habby--JDD's numbers have been as good as habby---goalies dont score goals

Pisani as the best penalty killer maybe 3 years ago--not now

So I dispute your findings
i know what your saying but in the cap world you are paying pisani 2.5 mil for his skills. he has not been the same player since his illness but you can not replace that either until it comes off the books.

habby and jdd's #s may be similar but they are not the same quality goalie ,,,there are many reasons why they are similar....happy was in net for our worst bout of injury / it took him a few games to get going but/ the team was still learning the so called system. ect but they are not the same quality goalie....jdd lets in to many softies/ he get rattled/ he is a rookie.

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01-03-2010, 12:47 AM
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Brownie----come on the oilers are not that banged up any more

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01-03-2010, 12:53 AM
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Brownie----come on the oilers are not that banged up any more
#1 Goalie, #1 Offensive player and #1 defenceman

Wow, what are you drinking??

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01-03-2010, 12:56 AM
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Funny how they wouldn't dare say that about the Leafs I don't think.

If we do get Hall, CBC will falling over themselves for the Oilers "Team Canada" with Hall, Eberle, Gagner, etc.


Too bad we could't make a trade to have two picks in the top three at the draft.The Oilers are proud to select 1st overall Taylor Hall.The Oilers are proud to select 3rd overall Cam Fowler.

We would then have Hall,Eberle,MPS,Gagner,Fowler.


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01-03-2010, 12:58 AM
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#1 Goalie, #1 Offensive player and #1 defenceman

Wow, what are you drinking??

As I have stated-- using Habby is a little silly

we knew he had injury problems--the hawks brought Huet into be the number one goalie--this is not habby of the Bolts--this is the habby that stunk the joint up in chicago--JDD has held his own.

I agree with Hemsky

How long is SOURAY out for--he is the number 1 offensive d-man

lubor is their best transition d-man*there is a big difference

If HOrcoff is injured--shut him down

Penner? POS? Gagner? Brule? Cogliano? Nilsson?
Gilbert, grebs and Souray on D

Sorry

the injury excuse is now lame

HEMSKY IS THE KEY

but the rest are being shown for being bad and over paid

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01-03-2010, 01:17 AM
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I really don't give a **** about this team, I am tired of the myriad of excuses. However, the future does look good with Eberle and Paajarvi in the pipeline. The Oilers had better do their due diligence with these two guys, that is do not rush them into the NHL.
Some things I must comment on in terms of the commentators on CBC. I really enjoyed the analysis by Kelly Hrudey, very balanced and truthful. Elliotte Friedman, who I have always respected, telling Ron MacLean how he has never seen Quinn look so defeated. It was very telling to me due to the fact how much the media from Toronto were on Quinn during his time there.

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01-03-2010, 01:19 AM
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Too bad we could't make a trade to have two picks in the top three at the draft.The Oilers are proud to select 1st overall Taylor Hall.The Oilers are proud to select 3rd overall Cam Fowler.

We would then have Hall,Eberle,MPS,Gagner,Fowler.
a trade with the bruins at the dealine perhaps for that toronto pick???

would boston do gilbert/moreau for the first??

If toronto gets fourth or fifth last and wins the lotto and we get dead last and get the second pick we have the number one and two picks... dare to dream

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I love how the fans buy into what Kevin Lowe is saying at the start of the year about this team being a contender. It obviously wasn't going to be one and we are obviously rebuilding. Fans have to start looking at what Lowe and company are doing rather than clinching on what they are saying. No team is going to come right out and say "we are in rebuild mode". They want to sell tickets.

What is the evidence?

1. We traded Erik Cole for Patrick O'Sullivan
- This showed great asset management and a team that was obviously looking forward to the future rather than the short term possiblities of getting into the playoffs and signing Cole

2. We traded Kyle Brodziak for Toni Raja and Olivier Roy. They saw Brodziaks potential and thought that those 2 players would have higer upside in the long run

3. Let Steve MacIntyre go so that Jacques can take over.

4. They locked up Tom Gilbert to a long term contract.

5. Eberle and Paajarvai were left to develop rather than rush them to the NHL.

Now obviously they have done a few Veteran signings but nothing major that is going to hurt the team in the long run. Perhaps the only bad contract that the oilers have handed out that isn't expiring soon is Shawn Horcoff's. This team could be dynamite in a couple years.

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"The boys played well, and it wasn't too tough," Sharks centre Joe Thornton told Hockey Night in Canada after recording a couple of assists to increase his NHL-leading points total to 57.
I have heard and read this too many times from opposing players. If this is acceptable to any fan of the Oilers I really don't know what to say to you other than .

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01-03-2010, 01:41 AM
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"The boys played well, and it wasn't too tough," Sharks centre Joe Thornton told Hockey Night in Canada after recording a couple of assists to increase his NHL-leading points total to 57.
I have heard and read this too many times from opposing players. If this is acceptable to any fan of the Oilers I really don't know what to say to you other than .
Well if that quote cant get the guys fired up for the next game against SJ then i dunno what to say anymore...

Sourray should Make Thorton pay for those words.

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Well if that quote cant get the guys fired up for the next game against SJ then i dunno what to say anymore...

Sourray should Make Thorton pay for those words.
The problem is NotBad, too many opposing players have said the same thing. This team is too easy to play against, just pressure them and the cards fold, it really is that simple.

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01-03-2010, 02:09 AM
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"The boys played well, and it wasn't too tough," Sharks centre Joe Thornton.
"Not like a playoff game," Thornton went on to add. "Thank god, could you imagine how hard it would be for me to win all these Art Ross trophies if I didn't have lottery teams to beat up on?"

Thornton then unsuccessfully attempted to butter a slice of toast.

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01-03-2010, 02:18 AM
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oilers will be sellers for sure.
we all know the list of sell offs i just hope they can get some good building blocks.
I dont really care what we get back unless we are moving a big name. I would gladly see Moreau and Horcoff shipped for nothing. Let Pisani retire.

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01-03-2010, 02:19 AM
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obviously they have done a few Veteran signings but nothing major that is going to hurt the team in the long run.

Perhaps the only bad contract that the oilers have handed out that isn't expiring soon is Shawn Horcoff's.
A four year contract to a 36 year old crippled goalie says otherwise.....

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01-03-2010, 02:22 AM
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The team could go 0-82 and they would still say the team is good and things are getting better.
Lets be realistic, which sportscaster ever states that the team they follow and broadcast for is utter ****?

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A four year contract to a 36 year old crippled goalie says otherwise.....
Blessing in disguise, if only because Lowe/Tambellini have to think extra-carefully about how they're going to use the cap space they do have (ie no more Pisani/Gilbert contracts).

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think we need to see some 'We Want Hall' signs at rexall so management don't get any stupid ideas of trying to turn this around..........

also time to rotate the 2 goalies........give DD every 2nd game to see if he will be ready sooner or later

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I don't care, I don't watch, wake me up when the draft comes on.

Edit: I don't even know if they won or lost, but I'm assuming they lost.

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I dont really care what we get back unless we are moving a big name. I would gladly see Moreau and Horcoff shipped for nothing. Let Pisani retire.
Bingo. The key is getting rid of bad contracts so we can actually rebuild. None of this, lets stock this team up with overpaid vets and rebuild crap.

Souray, Moreau, Horcoff should be on the block and getting offered for anything small.

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Bingo. The key is getting rid of bad contracts so we can actually rebuild. None of this, lets stock this team up with overpaid vets and rebuild crap.

Souray, Moreau, Horcoff should be on the block and getting offered for anything small.
bet O'Marra could probably play as well as Horc right now......sell the vets and see which kids can sink or swim....

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Bingo. The key is getting rid of bad contracts so we can actually rebuild. None of this, lets stock this team up with overpaid vets and rebuild crap.

Souray, Moreau, Horcoff should be on the block and getting offered for anything small.
Not that I disagree with the need to clean house, but I'm curious: How does capspace fuel a rebuild exactly? By the time the ELC's are up for the newcomers, these contracts would be done or winding down anyway.

Only thing you're doing by putting every veteran on the chopping block is forcing the kids to play primary roles - and it will harm the inexperienced players more than it will build a winning culture.

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Not that I disagree with the need to clean house, but I'm curious: How does capspace fuel a rebuild exactly? By the time the ELC's are up for the newcomers, these contracts would be done or winding down anyway.

Only thing you're doing by putting every veteran on the chopping block is forcing the kids to play primary roles - and it will harm the inexperienced players more than it will build a winning culture.
kind of like the winning culture happening right now????or the last 4 yrs??......unfortunately there are a few vets that are doing more harm then good right now....especially if they are not giving 100% since they know the season is a lost cause


our inexperienced players are in there 3-5 yr pro......it is not like they are playing a bunch of NHL rookies here

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bet O'Marra could probably play as well as Horc right now......sell the vets and see which kids can sink or swim....
It certainly can't get any worse. The man's career is in a tailspin thanks to the contract he signed.

I'm being charitable with my perception of Tambo's inaction thus far. My optimistic side -- whatever is left of it at this point -- has decided that he's just waiting until after the Olympics, or at least until the week up to the trade deadline, to move players for maximum value. This tactic simultaneously assures this current group of sadsacks drags the team as low as possible into a good draft position.

At least that's how I coax myself to sleep at night.

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Not that I disagree with the need to clean house, but I'm curious: How does capspace fuel a rebuild exactly? By the time the ELC's are up for the newcomers, these contracts would be done or winding down anyway.

Only thing you're doing by putting every veteran on the chopping block is forcing the kids to play primary roles - and it will harm the inexperienced players more than it will build a winning culture.
They could spend the cap space on a few FA veterans to replace the old guard, and create a new atmosphere in the locker room. I'm not talking about a Kovalchuk, but some solid players with winning attitudes. Guys like Holmstrom, Cullen, Nolan, Madden, even a Tkachuk. I mean, even guys like Cooke just to add some personality to the team.

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