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01-03-2010, 11:05 PM
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Pass theres no centerman on the top line

MPS - Gagner - Eberle
Hall - Brule - Hemsky

maybe put Penner on the third line, could be a scoring line with

Omark - Lander - Penner or something like that
I don't know how that top 6 can be cohesive. Too many players who want the puck and too many players who don't know what to do when they don't have it. Tons of skill, and tons of excitement, at both ends of the rink but someone would have to take a back seat for the greater good. Someone would have to reinvent their game.

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What is McGuire contradicting? It was Bourque who made the 1st line comment and it was refering to his future in the NHL, not now.
Umm Mcguire was saying it all night on multiple occasions.

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01-03-2010, 11:06 PM
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"MPS is an ELITE first line player in the NHL right now! And he's playing in this tournament instead of on the Edmonton Oilers! He would be their best player!"

- Pierre Magurie.
I found that funny. Listen to what he said at the draft. Something like "Edmonton needs to let this kid develop in Europe for a few years and really take their time with this kid."

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Taylor Hall can play both Left wing and Center.
That is great if he can, but he doesn't. Why the **** would we play him out of his natural position? We drafted Sam Gagner for a reason.

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01-03-2010, 11:09 PM
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"MPS is an ELITE first line player in the NHL right now! And he's playing in this tournament instead of on the Edmonton Oilers! He would be their best player!"

- Pierre Magurie.
Well he certainly would be an improvement on Horcoff.

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I know this might be blasphemy for the year(s) he's had and believe me, no one has cursed the SOB more than I have, but I think MPS might be the guy that makes Horcoff useful again. Horcoff can go back to standing in a spot and waiting for a pass, one that will be coming more frequently than it would otherwise be coming from Hemsky.

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We drafted Sam Gagner for a reason.
To be an elf for Penner's Santa?

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01-03-2010, 11:14 PM
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My top six for next year

Penner-Gagner-Hemsky
Hall-Paajarvi-Eberle

In sweden they like to play LWers like centers so Paajarvi would be use to the skating its just a matter of him being able to take faceoffs. BTW this is probably the biggest top six we would have in years and would just need to develop there games.

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I found that funny. Listen to what he said at the draft. Something like "Edmonton needs to let this kid develop in Europe for a few years and really take their time with this kid."



That is great if he can, but he doesn't. Why the **** would we play him out of his natural position? We drafted Sam Gagner for a reason.
He also said Gagner was rushed during that draft after being the one championing him for an NHL roster spot after the Super Series.

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LOL at mcguire, was he not the guy that said the Oilers and fans need to be patient with him at the draft and now he thinks he is a first line player in the NHL right now. The guy is a walking contradiction.

Not that I disagree with him as Paajarvi does look big fast and skilled and probably could be in the Oiler line up. Another thought anybody thinks it possible for the Oilers to buy his contract out and finish the season in Edmonton? Just dreaming but atleast the fans can get an early look and its not like he would make us much better right now and we could still get a pick.

Like to mention he took a faceoff today and won it cleanly and I started thinking how great it would be to have a Hall-Paajarvi-Eberle line if he can be decent on the draw. We really need to get this kid over so he can transition from the european game to our game.
as for buying out his contract and trying get him this year

REmember the rexi rule that was brought in just for the oilers---he is not playng in a junior league--he is playing if a professional league

what would the oilers have to do to get a player "who has played in a european professional league" into the nhl this year????


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Taylor Hall can play both Left wing and Center.
At the same time? That is talent!

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as for buying out his contract and trying get him this year

REmember the rexi rule that was brought in just for the oilers---he is not playng in a junior league--he is playing if a professional league

what would the oilers have to do to get a player "who has played in a european professional league" into the nhl this year????


lets think about that
Just a thought. And of all people get somebody else to insult my inteligence.

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At the same time? That is talent!


Ya better believe it the kid has amazing talent.

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What is McGuire contradicting? It was Bourque who made the 1st line comment and it was refering to his future in the NHL, not now.
Actually I believe he said Bourque told him that he was a first line player in the nhl right now. If Im not mistaken.

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01-03-2010, 11:22 PM
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He also said Gagner was rushed during that draft after being the one championing him for an NHL roster spot after the Super Series.
Sounds like most of us on here. I wonder what his username is?

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My top six for next year

Penner-Gagner-Hemsky
Hall-Paajarvi-Eberle

In sweden they like to play LWers like centers so Paajarvi would be use to the skating its just a matter of him being able to take faceoffs. BTW this is probably the biggest top six we would have in years and would just need to develop there games.
I don't know, i would want paajarvi to play a position he is most comfortable with in his first year. Plus i doubt we get 1st overall. Oilers are too unlucky for that to happen.

Paajarvi Horcoff Hemsky
Penner Seguin Eberle

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I won't disagree but I will say Kadri looks better than I expected.

I'd say the reverse. So far he plays super physical, on the edge.. maybe bordering on dirty. But as far as his hands from in close, he does seem to have any. They can have Kadri, I'll take MPS. Kadri's physical play is good, but his offense is suspect to me.

TSN was all over him tonight too for his inability to take a one timer (consistently misses the puck on those). But that's not why I don't think he'll be as good as MPS. I think he'll make an impact, but I think it'll be on the 2nd line at best. I'm actually not surprised to see he's leading Canada in penalties too. I can see him running into that trouble in the NHL. I kind of wonder if he's this group's Steve Downie.

Hard to really say though just by watching 5 games.

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I'd say put Lander with MPS. They have pretty good chemistry no?

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I'd say the Oilers board needs to moderate their expectations. The team is in a mess. MPS, Eberle, and Hall (assuming he falls to the Oil) won't fix it in their rookie year.
It's best not to rush them in (and burn one year of their EL deals) when the team is nowhere near ready to compete.

The remainder of this season and the next should be dedicated to clearing Lowe's mess.

2011 is when you bring in the rooks (MPS, Eberle, Hall/Seguin).
Hopefully, by then Gagner, Brule and Smid will be ready to pull some weight. Hemsky, Penner, Horcoff, and Visnovsky will still be around. (I think Souray and Gilbert will be moved).

If the management plays it right, the team could be realistically expected to make the play-offs.

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I'd say put Lander with MPS. They have pretty good chemistry no?
I believe they were split up this year in Timra (someone closer to the team can confirm). They did play together for a while though.

They also started the tourney on the same line but were split up early on.

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Magnus Horcoff Hemsky
Penner Brule Eberle
Hall Gagner Cogliano
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Magnus Horcoff Hemsky
Penner Brule Eberle
Hall Gagner Cogliano
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Horcoff's days as a first line center are behind him.

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Horcoff's days as a first line center are behind him.
I agree but where do you put him assuming he's still on the roster next year?

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I'd say the Oilers board needs to moderate their expectations. The team is in a mess. MPS, Eberle, and Hall (assuming he falls to the Oil) won't fix it in their rookie year.
It's best not to rush them in (and burn one year of their EL deals) when the team is nowhere near ready to compete.

The remainder of this season and the next should be dedicated to clearing Lowe's mess.

2011 is when you bring in the rooks (MPS, Eberle, Hall/Seguin).
Hopefully, by then Gagner, Brule and Smid will be ready to pull some weight. Hemsky, Penner, Horcoff, and Visnovsky will still be around. (I think Souray and Gilbert will be moved).

If the management plays it right, the team could be realistically expected to make the play-offs.
disagree....time to shuffle out as many vets as possible next year and bring in Hall/Seguin, Eberle and MPS and see what they can do

this "rebuild" will take a few year and we're not likely gonna make the playoffs next year so throw the kids out there and see what they can do

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I'd say put Lander with MPS. They have pretty good chemistry no?
Paajarvi seems to be a surefire top 6 player, I don't think many see Lander in the same light. Lander seems to me as a grinder, possible 3rd/4th line NHL player, I highly doubt we'll see much of a MPS/Lander duo in the NHL. Even in the WJC they have not been playing together, MPS on the first line, with Lander playing on the 2nd or 3rd line.

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I agree but where do you put him assuming he's still on the roster next year?
Hard to say really. We are so weak up the middle. This team is a mess. We need a goalie, at least two good defensive d men, and elite forwards. We are pretty much an expansion team at this point. Thanks Kevin.

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