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01-06-2010, 02:17 PM
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Sens interested in Hamhuis/Brunette ??

source: senschirp.ca

"There's still talk about Cody Franson but apparently the guy the Senators really like is Dan Hamhuis. Hamhuis is in the final year of his deal paying him $2 million a season. He is set to be a UFA at season's end and is not expected to return to Nashville."

"Another name that has come up is that of Andrew Brunette in Minnesota. Brunette would provide a veteran presence up front and could definitely help an ailing power play. Brunette has another year on a contract that pays him $2.3 mil a season."

Thoughts ? The Preds would like a forward & defenceman according to senschirp.

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01-06-2010, 02:19 PM
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Think what we would want for Volchenkov and that is what the asking price for Hamhuis.

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kelly+campoli for hamhuis.

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kelly+campoli for hamhuis.
I actually like Kelly this year.... Would much rather get rid of Cheech. I'm sure the Preds feel the same way tho.

Hamhuis as a rental might work... If we can somehow throw them Cheechoo we get 3 mill opened up in cap space next yr.

Camp + Cheech/Kelly = 3.6 mill/2.8 mill
Hamhuis = 2 mill

Yeah after calculating this up no way they take Cheech.. even if they have 14 mill in cap space.


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it depends on which forward and defenseman the preds would want. Is Hamuis capable enough to be our #1 D? A package centred around Regin would probably get it done

While Hamuis would be a great addition for the playoff push, I just don't see how we'll be able to keep both him and Volchenkov past this season.

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01-06-2010, 02:28 PM
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it depends on which forward and defenseman the preds would want. Is Hamuis capable enough to be our #1 D? A package centred around Regin would probably get it done

While Hamuis would be a great addition for the playoff push, I just don't see how we'll be able to keep both him and Volchenkov past this season.
let volchenkov go if hamhuis is coming this way. Volchenkov can only play at one end of the rink, while hamhuis can play at both. Resign hamhuis over volchenkov...

That being said, i would much rather try to move cheechoo and kuba so we could resign both...

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Hamhuis as a rental might work... If we can somehow throw them Cheechoo we get 3 mill opened up in cap space next yr.
The Preds operate on the league minimum for the cap, so I don't foresee them wanting to take on Cheech.

They are probably asking for Foligno + Campoli/Picard/Lee

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Burnette would be a nice addition, if Murray could get either him or Whitney I would be stoked (as long as he doesn't give up to much)

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The Preds operate on the league minimum for the cap, so I don't foresee them wanting to take on Cheech.

They are probably asking for Foligno + Campoli/Picard/Lee
Possibly you are correct Fuhr, but with Hamhuis being a FA at season's end, his value drops because of it imo...

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Burnette would be a nice addition, if Murray could get either him or Whitney I would be stoked (as long as he doesn't give up to much)
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At least one team has asked about Ray Whitney, who has a no-trade. As of right now, Whitney is telling Canes his preference is to stay.

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Possibly you are correct Fuhr, but with Hamhuis being a FA at season's end, his value drops because of it imo...
I think that too, but I see what some Sens fans are asking for Volchenkov on the trade boards.

Just trying to show the value from the other perspective... us being the buyers.

I view Hamhuis and Volchenkov as the same value.

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I think that too, but I see what some Sens fans are asking for Volchenkov on the trade boards.

Just trying to show the value from the other perspective... us being the buyers.

I view Hamhuis and Volchenkov as the same value.
You make a good point...

Defensively, volchenkov > hamhuis
Offensively, Hamhuis > volchenkov
Overall, =

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I think that too, but I see what some Sens fans are asking for Volchenkov on the trade boards.

Just trying to show the value from the other perspective... us being the buyers.

I view Hamhuis and Volchenkov as the same value.
While I do beleive that Volchenkov's value especially at playoff time is more valuable then Hamhuis, I do agree with you on your assessment that Hamhuis would likely garner a similar package as to what Volchie would get us. At least in the eyes of each teams respective fans....

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You make a good point...

Defensively, volchenkov > hamhuis
Offensively, Hamhuis > volchenkov
Overall, =
Hamhuis is also Nashville's top pk'er, so it's not like he is a slouch either.

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Hamhuis is also Nashville's top pk'er, so it's not like he is a slouch either.
That's why i would pick hamhuis over volchenkov. I mentioned a couple posts above that he can play at both ends of the rink, whereas volchenkov just one.

Though isn't weber ahead of hamhuis defensively?

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I think that too, but I see what some Sens fans are asking for Volchenkov on the trade boards.

Just trying to show the value from the other perspective... us being the buyers.

I view Hamhuis and Volchenkov as the same value.
I think that the only reason for getting hamhuis ( who I consider a slighty shorter Phillips ) is if Volchenkov is going to be traded...

So i hope they are scouting/going after Franson not hamhuis.

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I think that the only reason for getting hamhuis ( who I consider a slighty shorter Phillips ) is if Volchenkov is going to be traded...

So i hope they are scouting/going after Franson not hamhuis.
Hamhuis is a bit better offensively (then phillips) as he has put up near 40 points in the past.

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The Preds operate on the league minimum for the cap, so I don't foresee them wanting to take on Cheech.

They are probably asking for Foligno + Campoli/Picard/Lee
I agree,that's the package they would most likely be interested in , but I believe they could settle for Winchester + Campoli/Picard/Lee and a mid tier prospect or pick.

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I would still think there is a possibility he could waive to the right team. Didn't Stillman waive his NTC to come here a couple years ago?

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You make a good point...

Defensively, volchenkov > hamhuis
Offensively, Hamhuis > volchenkov
Overall, =
No he doesn't!

Good defense >>> Good offense

This is a proven fact, especially since the lockout.

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Maybe Murray hopes Hamhuis is Volchenkov's replacement at a cheaper price.

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No he doesn't!

Good defense >>> Good offense

This is a proven fact, especially since the lockout.
Yes, but only if they were better in those categories by the same amount.

In my opinion hamhuis is a small step behind volchenkov defensively, but volchenkov is a bigger step behind offensively. Overall, equalling out.

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Eklund said Saku Koivu, but we know that means nothing.

What would the lines be with Koivu though?

Can he play wing?

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Can we stop taking Eklund seriously ? ...seriously

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That's why i would pick hamhuis over volchenkov. I mentioned a couple posts above that he can play at both ends of the rink, whereas volchenkov just one.

Though isn't weber ahead of hamhuis defensively?
Volchenkov has better offensive numbers than Hamhuis this year and is on pace to get the same number in 10 less games.

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