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03-23-2010, 01:51 PM
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Well I think its now safe to say they are a solid two way top 6 line.



They've been together for 34 games now (since 12/27 -vs- St.Louis)

In those 34 games together

Pommer
ES ---> 7g 13a 20pts
PP ---> 5g 4a 9pts
Total -> 12g 17a 29pts +10

Hecht
ES ---> 13g 11a 24pts
PP ---> 1g 0a 1pt
Total -> 14g 11a 25pts +15

Connolly
ES ---> 5g 20a 25pts
PP ---> 3g 10a 13pts
SH ---> 1g 0a 1pt
Total -> 9g 30a 39pts +11


Imagine what numbers they could put up playing like this for a full season. We will likely find out next year.
Even with Ennis most likely coming up next year, and maybe even Kassian (Though I doubt it) I'd still keep them together.

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03-23-2010, 01:52 PM
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You know what I take out of this.....?


HECHT IS A POTENTIAL 30 GOAL SCORER OMG!!!!!!!!


At this pace he projects out to 34g


But I'm hopeful going forward with this line set in stone. Now its a matter of finding a good fit with Roy/Vanek. As of right now Kennedy has been doing great.

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At this pace he projects out to 34g


But I'm hopeful going forward with this line set in stone. Now its a matter of finding a good fit with Roy/Vanek. As of right now Kennedy has been doing great.
And Mancari worked well with them too.

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03-23-2010, 02:22 PM
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Well I think its now safe to say they are a solid two way top 6 line.



They've been together for 34 games now (since 12/27 -vs- St.Louis)

In those 34 games together

Pommer
ES ---> 7g 13a 20pts
PP ---> 5g 4a 9pts
Total -> 12g 17a 29pts +10

Hecht
ES ---> 13g 11a 24pts
PP ---> 1g 0a 1pt
Total -> 14g 11a 25pts +15

Connolly
ES ---> 5g 20a 25pts
PP ---> 3g 10a 13pts
SH ---> 1g 0a 1pt
Total -> 9g 30a 39pts +11


Imagine what numbers they could put up playing like this for a full season. We will likely find out next year.
To stoke this fire...when Hecht and Pominville were having career years, who played with them for 40 games of the season?? (obviously, they also played well without him, but still).

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03-23-2010, 02:50 PM
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To stoke this fire...when Hecht and Pominville were having career years, who played with them for 40 games of the season?? (obviously, they also played well without him, but still).
Well I think it should be clear by now that Connolly will help any line when plugged in. That should be expected from our leading scorer. What makes this line special this year is that they have not really leaned on Timmy as much as they have meshed with him and this is the best i've seen a line play together consistently since 06-07.

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To stoke this fire...when Hecht and Pominville were having career years, who played with them for 40 games of the season?? (obviously, they also played well without him, but still).
As a line, they were never better than when they were with Briere...

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Well I think it should be clear by now that Connolly will help any line when plugged in. That should be expected from our leading scorer. What makes this line special this year is that they have not really leaned on Timmy as much as they have meshed with him and this is the best i've seen a line play together consistently since 06-07.
What? If anything, it was Hecht energizing Connolly when he was re-inserted into the top line. This, season the one constant seems to be that which ever line Hecht is on is generating offense.

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At this pace he projects out to 34g


But I'm hopeful going forward with this line set in stone. Now its a matter of finding a good fit with Roy/Vanek. As of right now Kennedy has been doing great.
NOT STAFFORD

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NOT STAFFORD
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but Connolly doesn't produce at ES and can't stay healthy...

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but Connolly doesn't produce at ES and can't stay healthy...
Give me a break. Before this year that was an accurate statement for 3.5 years.

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What? If anything, it was Hecht energizing Connolly when he was re-inserted into the top line. This, season the one constant seems to be that which ever line Hecht is on is generating offense.
I agree Hecht has been great for the line this season but I was more stating that its not surprise a line plays better with Connolly, as he is our most consistent offensive threat. If you put Roy out there with that line instead of Connolly, you have a mess. If you put Vanek in their for Hecht, you have a quality line still.

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I agree Hecht has been great for the line this season but I was more stating that its not surprise a line plays better with Connolly, as he is our most consistent offensive threat. If you put Roy out there with that line instead of Connolly, you have a mess. If you put Vanek in their for Hecht, you have a quality line still.
I don't agree.

I think Hecht-Roy-Pominville has been better the rare times they've been together than Vanek-Conolly-Pominivlle have been in their many, many chances.

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Give me a break. Before this year that was an accurate statement for 3.5 years.
you all wrote him off... now he's the most valuable player within the forward corp. that's the flaw with allowing number crunching to be the entire basis of your opinion.

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you all wrote him off... now he's the most valuable player within the forward corp. that's the flaw with allowing number crunching to be the entire basis of your opinion.
No. He's not. Hecht is. Connolly, even within this season, has been inconsistent. He's 2nd, probably, but not that far ahead.

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No. He's not. Hecht is. Connolly, even within this season, has been inconsistent. He's 2nd, probably, but not that far ahead.
That ridiculous. Hecht has been great in many capacities but Connolly has been the straw that stirs the drink and probably the lone bright spot on our PP as well as a solid PKer as usual.

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That ridiculous. Hecht has been great in many capacities but Connolly has been the straw that stirs the drink and probably the lone bright spot on our PP as well as a solid PKer as usual.
I just can't disagree more. Hecht has been the lone constant on whichever line is producing at any given moment. Connolly has been incosistent. And that includes special teams. He was absolute trash for a long string of games before the West Coast trip, and frankly he's been awful more often than good since coming back from the Olympic Break.

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No. He's not. Hecht is. Connolly, even within this season, has been inconsistent. He's 2nd, probably, but not that far ahead.
I love Hecht. His game has been amazing this year.

Connolly is twice as valuable to this team, THIS year... denying that is pure bias and nothing else.

Connolly leads the team is ES and PP scoring, and has been very good defensively, while contributing to the PK.

His game has been consistent for nearly the entire year (a 3 week skid in december)

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I love Hecht. His game has been amazing this year.

Connolly is twice as valuable to this team, THIS year... denying that is pure bias and nothing else.

Connolly leads the team is ES and PP scoring, and has been very good defensively, while contributing to the PK.

His game has been consistent for nearly the entire year (a 3 week skid in december)
Well, and 6-8 games after the Olympics, if you look at on-ice performance and aren't impressed by a couple of "happened to touch the puck" assists.

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I just can't disagree more. Hecht has been the lone constant on whichever line is producing at any given moment. Connolly has been incosistent. And that includes special teams. He was absolute trash for a long string of games before the West Coast trip, and frankly he's been awful more often than good since coming back from the Olympic Break.
Losing Connolly would practically implode the team offensively.

Losing Hecht would hurt, but could be overcome

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you all wrote him off... now he's the most valuable player within the forward corp. that's the flaw with allowing number crunching to be the entire basis of your opinion.



Coming from you this is pretty funny.


You write off players you don't like after a bad month or season if it suits your agenda.

Taking a show me stance with a player's health that missed half of the last two seasons and all of the season before that seems pretty reasonable to me.


Connolly this season is player I always felt he would be if he stayed healthy. I never had faith in his ability to stay healthy. But I did think he could be a good playmaker, average goal scorer and a solid two way ES player. He isn't a dominant player nor a super star like his fanboys crowed he would be if he could stay healthy. He also doesn't make his linemates better. If that was the case he (along with Pommer) wouldn't have needed Hecht to jump up from the 3rd line to make that line go.

This is the best season of his career and I'm hoping its a sign of more seaons like this to come.

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Losing Connolly would practically implode the team offensively.

Losing Hecht would hurt, but could be overcome
Connolly's overall performance without Hecht on his wing this season suggests otherwise.

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Well, and 6-8 games after the Olympics, if you look at on-ice performance and aren't impressed by a couple of "happened to touch the puck" assists.
its easy to tell who doesnt base their opinions on what happens on the ice. you can always tell....

its those whose opinions never change...

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Connolly's overall performance without Hecht on his wing this season suggests otherwise.
yea, like the first 15 games of the year, when he had 15 pts

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its easy to tell who doesnt base their opinions on what happens on the ice. you can always tell....

its those whose opinions never change...
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