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01-06-2010, 09:45 AM
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So How Did Our Prospects In The WJC Do?

Great game first of all, poor Tubes cant create a break for himself. He wasn't the worst out there though. Schenn did ok, played his role well, Kozun kid is fast looked good to me, glad Jones got in wasn't tested to much in the 3rd. Had a few good saves though. Over all Im excited about our prospects. Discuss....

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01-06-2010, 09:53 AM
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Schenn didnt see the ice much in the 3rd period, that speaks for itself.
Jones looks steady, got some maturing to do, but hes gonna be a good goalie...
and Kozun you should be exited about..hes small but hes got a great shot and excellent hockey sense and composure with the puck, this is a player that will need to be insulated...but will be an exiting player to watch....funny how he still leads the WHL in scoring, and he's been gone, at the tourney for the last 3 weeks....

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Kozun was the best player out of the LA prospects. Schenn did not play very well and Teubert was average.

My favorite part of this year's tournament was that it didn't take over the board like in years past. That means that the Kings are playing well since our board here wasn't all about the WJC since the Kings aren't out of the playoffs yet like usual!

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I wasn't too excited by either Schenn or Teubert but I also know that this is not necessarily the kind of stage where they will shine. They both seem to be of the grind it out for a full season mold rather than wowing you for 5 games in a tournament.

Kozun did very well, great speed and hands, no fear in the corners and finished all his checks. Kind of reminded me of Moller's game.

Jones... didn't see enough. Certainly did better than Lee in the final.

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Teubert had a +7 plus-minus rating and didn't take a single penalty. And you guys are saying he wasn't that good shame on you

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Well, Teubert and Jones were on the ice for the final goal....but we can't judge on that....the other 4 guys out there left those 2 out to dry.

Kozun looked the best in my mind.

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Teubert had a +7 plus-minus rating and didn't take a single penalty. And you guys are saying he wasn't that good shame on you
He was a steady, stay-at-home type like he's supposed to be. Not running around to lay the big hit, not taking dumb penalties. Looks like he may be the next Matt Greene, which is OK but less than what the Kings were hoping for.

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Teubert had a +7 plus-minus rating and didn't take a single penalty. And you guys are saying he wasn't that good shame on you
He ended up +5.

vs Latvia: +4
vs Switzerland: 0
vs Slovakia: 0
vs USA: +2
vs Switzerland: +1
vs USA: -2

It's easy to boost your +/- after drubbing Latvia 16-0. Nine other guys on Canada had better +/- ratings than Teubert. Against higher level competition, Teubert looked shaky. Last night, he didn't take a penalty on Schroeder, but Schroeder did go around Teubert for a partial breakaway with relative ease.

There were other instances where his reads/positioning needed work. He certainly wasn't the only one though. That's generally why you see more forwards hit the NHL before 20 than defensemen. Offensive skill is more apparent at an early age. A lot of the defensemen (and the goalies) in the tournament showed that they need a lot of work before they can crack the next level.

It's a relatively short tournament and most of us armchair GMs on HF put a little too much stock into a handful of games. The main thing to take away from it is that Teubert will need at least a year in the AHL. And that isn't earth shattering news.

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He ended up +5.

vs Latvia: +4
vs Switzerland: 0
vs Slovakia: 0
vs USA: +2
vs Switzerland: +1
vs USA: -2

It's easy to boost your +/- after drubbing Latvia 16-0. Nine other guys on Canada had better +/- ratings than Teubert. Against higher level competition, Teubert looked shaky. Last night, he didn't take a penalty on Schroeder, but Schroeder did go around Teubert for a partial breakaway with relative ease.

There were other instances where his reads/positioning needed work. He certainly wasn't the only one though. That's generally why you see more forwards hit the NHL before 20 than defensemen. Offensive skill is more apparent at an early age. A lot of the defensemen (and the goalies) in the tournament showed that they need a lot of work before they can crack the next level.

It's a relatively short tournament and most of us armchair GMs on HF put a little too much stock into a handful of games. The main thing to take away from it is that Teubert will need at least a year in the AHL. And that isn't earth shattering news.
if anything was promising, he played that final play VERY well. not much to glean from, but a nod going forward... pretty mature, good read and no panic at the moment of truth when everything was on the line. that's good to see.

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He was a steady, stay-at-home type like he's supposed to be. Not running around to lay the big hit, not taking dumb penalties. Looks like he may be the next Matt Greene, which is OK but less than what the Kings were hoping for.
What exactly where they looking for in him then? Hes a stay at home guy who might chip in but is going to be mean in his own zone.

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I've heard some people say(Here in Sacramento they broadcast a high school hockey game over this) that this was one of the best WJC games ever played. I guess it's good for these kids to see how hard it is to win a championship.

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He was a steady, stay-at-home type like he's supposed to be. Not running around to lay the big hit, not taking dumb penalties. Looks like he may be the next Matt Greene, which is OK but less than what the Kings were hoping for.
If he becomes like Greene I'd be thrilled because his size, edge and strength would cause him to hit harder and fight better. Also Teubert has great balance which is very important for that style.

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Besides, Teubert has a hard and accurate shot. That's something that greene does not have. Does that mean that the kid will score? Maybe, or maybe not but we know he has the capability.

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Schenn had a good overall tournament but could have been better. Wish he would've stepped it up a little more in the gold medal game. Hell I wish a lot of players were better(hello defense). His line, which was Canada's top line, lead the team in scoring.

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Eberle 6g 5a 11pts
Schenn 2g 6a 8pts
McMillan 4g 2a 8pts

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Hall 5g 4a 9pts
Kadri 3g 3a 6pts
Nemisz 0g 0a 0pts

Colton Teubert was steady. Didn't take too many risks, nor was he playing passive. Pretty much the story of his junior season this year. He's playing better than last year..improving leader, smarter offensive game, more disciplined etc. Think of Teubert as a poor man's Chris Pronger. With Doughty and the much improved Matt Greene occupying the right side, you have to think CT will probably play the bottom pair in the future.

Kozun 3g 4a 7pts - I'm going to admit I don't like small players unless they possess an obvious skill. This guy has wheels and excellent offensive instincts. Really good tournament, tried to make things happen, good vision, good passer, you can see why he's scoring a bunch in the dub. Kozun has a big hill to climb in the pro ranks but this guy has real potential.


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Schenn didnt see the ice much in the 3rd period, that speaks for itself.
Incorrect only Kadri and Schenn were the only 2 centers getting ice time in the 3rd and overtime, Schenn had a booming shot in overtime before leaving the ice for Kadri to jump on and to see USA score about 40 secs later...Schenn is made for the NHL not for bigger ice surfaces, he isnt the fastest skater, but he is a great passer, hits A LOT, sticks up for teammates, great penalty killer, great on face offs, and PLANTS himself infront of the net. Remember he is only 18... he can still play next year... 8 pts in 6 games not to shabby.

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I dont see how you could be upset with Teubert during this tournament.

Another thing that really bugs me is when I see people wanting to get rid of Teubert. He's big. He's a defensemen. Do people forget that not only do defensemen take longer to develop, big defensemen take even longer. Be patient people, he's making progress.

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I love Schenns game.

I like the stage all 4 of our guys are at. They did not dissapoint.

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If he becomes like Greene I'd be thrilled because his size, edge and strength would cause him to hit harder and fight better. Also Teubert has great balance which is very important for that style.
I don't know about hitting harder due to size because I'll be thrilled if Teubert winds up as large as Greene.

Knowing how to throw a punch will make him a better fighter than Greene by default.

Hey, I'd love another Matt Greene but I wouldn't take that over what Myers appears to bring. It also took Matt Greene a long time to develop and a change of scenery to get him going.

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Everyone was solid but not great, Jones has potential.

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As a guy that watched many of Canada's games and every second of both US/Can games (only ones even worth judging the Canadians in) I felt all 4 of the Kings prospects played how they were expected nobody was great but nobody was horrible.

Schenn- The solid 2nd line center assumption seems to be really accurate isn't to flashy a player, but played every situation for Canada and did reasonably well at both ends of the ice.

Teubert- Was made to look bad in the US game as he was the Dman that got hung out to dry on both US 2on1 goals, ultimately the international game is a bad place to judge him and his play style with there being alot more restrictions on physical play.

Jones- played well in his one game, had to come in cold vs the US and played alright, gwg maybe should have had but not his fault.

Kozun- is fast, pretty good skater/passer is gonna have a problem with his size at the next level without a doubt.

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Schenn was overall very solid. Took a lot of big face offs, ragged the puck, threw hits, very attuned to the game around him and has great all around ability.

Kozun was good. Very fast, smart, slick with the puck ...GREAT late pick.

Teubert was better than last year. Little slow with his feet in tight and has a slow stride. I'm a little concerned about his potential however if he brings other intangibles he should make it. They may have been able to draft him without trading Cammy to move up those spots, who knows.

Jones was put in a tough situation and did okay.

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I just don't see it with Kozun, and as a little guy I cheer for all little guys. Fast as all hell, but he's going to get manhandled as a pro.

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Well, Kozun could have won a gold

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Well, Kozun could have won a gold
Yep. That's a facepalm moment.

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Yep. That's a facepalm moment.
Are you talking about his missed shot or that he could have played for the American team?

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