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01-11-2010, 09:36 PM
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How are the other teams making the Pens look bad?

Keep digging.
are you telling me there aren't a massive amount of penguin haters?
are you telling me people all over the country and canada dont jump at the chance to troll on the penguins?

if not, welcome to the internet how can I help you search for what you want?


if this was the other way around, i wouldnt care if philly didnt send it in. if it were the other way around, we beat philly, im a happy man, and thats that. why would this matter? maybe FSN made a bad mistake and forget to send it in? accidents do happen

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you dont find it convenient that ESPN has no indication of this?
you dont find it convenient that NHL.com has no indication of this?
you dont find it convenient that the PENS OFFICIAL SITE has no indication of this?
hell, I get pens text alerts, I wouldve gotten a notice of this if it were a big deal.

They won the game, why do they care over one bad call? we all knew it was a goal, but it didnt matter in the end. why make a big deal
How is it not a big deal that broadcasters have a large affect on the outcome of a game? Yea, on this game it was not a big deal, as it turns out. It could have been though, and if it's not stopped, it could be in the future.

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01-11-2010, 09:37 PM
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They won the game, why do they care over one bad call? we all knew it was a goal, but it didnt matter in the end. why make a big deal
So cheating should only be punished if you win?

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you dont find it convenient that ESPN has no indication of this?
you dont find it convenient that NHL.com has no indication of this?
you dont find it convenient that the PENS OFFICIAL SITE has no indication of this?
hell, I get pens text alerts, I wouldve gotten a notice of this if it were a big deal.

They won the game, why do they care over one bad call? we all knew it was a goal, but it didnt matter in the end. why make a big deal
On behalf of other Pens' fans, please stop posting.

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wow... no one bothered to realize i wasnt talking about other HF members making the pens look bad....

I was referring to other teams in the league.

so much for me overreacting

i dont understand why this is FSN's fault? shouldnt the league have asked for this?
So the League should have said "Oh hey, FSN, please send us that last angle that shows it was a goal. You know, the one you're withholding?" That's the whole point of this investigation. The broadcast networks are (I imagine) required to send all angles. It is not incumbent upon the League to ask for specific angles.

Also, you can't throw this one on "other teams trying to make the Penguins look bad." Once that angle was shown, I'm sure someone in Toronto went "Yo, what the hell?" Thus we have this investigation.

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By mistake or with purpose it's inexcusable. Heads need to roll.

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I don't post here much but you have to think that the league would be smarter then this..... they should have full control of every camera as it is recording their product and ensure that they use all available avenues to see if a play should stand or not.

The fact that homerism never entered the counts mind shows how stupid he really is. Shouldn't be that hard for the league to have someone overseeing the game from the control room to ensure that every effort to check on a play and forward the proper angles to the proper people gets done.

Maybe make FOX pay a fine or something ( i doubt that will happen ) but something has to be done to put the fear of god into those morons who have butchered our beloved game in so many ways.
Well it could be they thought of it but just use the broadcaster's footage and cameras as a cost saving measure. I imagine it would cost a bit to get direct feeds from the cameras somehow.

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are you telling me there aren't a massive amount of penguin haters?
are you telling me people all over the country and canada dont jump at the chance to troll on the penguins?

if not, welcome to the internet how can I help you search for what you want?


if this was the other way around, i wouldnt care if philly didnt send it in. if it were the other way around, we beat philly, im a happy man, and thats that. why would this matter? maybe FSN made a bad mistake and forget to send it in? accidents do happen
You said you were not talking about fans but teams. Do you believe that the NHL is trying to hurt the Pens?

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wow... no one bothered to realize i wasnt talking about other HF members making the pens look bad....

I was referring to other teams in the league.

so much for me overreacting

i dont understand why this is FSN's fault? shouldnt the league have asked for this?
So which is it? The fans or other teams?

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01-11-2010, 09:39 PM
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wow... no one bothered to realize i wasnt talking about other HF members making the pens look bad....

I was referring to other teams in the league.

so much for me overreacting
Perhaps you shouldn't have immediately followed the comment about the HF member with the comment about people trying to make the Pens look bad.

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See, in a competent league, this would probably happen, but a competent league wouldn't be relying on a hometown broadcast for replays in the first place. When it comes to the NHL, the bar is very low.
In case you didn't know, the NFL and college football both get their replay angles from the TV broadcast. They don't have their own special, secret cameras just for replays. You know, just saying if you consider the NFL a competent league and they are doing this same thing then maybe trashing the NHL for doing it also is a bit misguided.

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So cheating should only be punished if you win?
Seriously. This is blatant cheating. Frankly, there should be fines, firings, and more investigation. I wouldn't mind seeing the team docked draft picks. This is huge if it happened this way.

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So cheating should only be punished if you win?
what proof do you have that we "cheated?"

did you ever think that someone simply forgot to do their job?

i made a mistake at work friday, nearly had something BAD printed in a local paper. did i mean to do so in order to hurt someone? NO. It was a simple mistake.


for all you, i, or anyone else know, thats all this could be

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01-11-2010, 09:40 PM
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Let's be honest: Toronto would have gotten it wrong, anyway. Out of all the calls that I've seen go to Toronto that were clear goals, maybe only two were actually deemed goals. They're useless and ridiculous.

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Seriously. This is blatant cheating. Frankly, there should be fines, firings, and more investigation. I wouldn't mind seeing the team docked draft picks. This is huge if it happened this way.
johnathan! i knew you'd pop up eventually.

care to explain how this cant simply be a mistake in someone's job?

you know, liek a referee who missed an obvious call?

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pathetic nothing more.

i know its probably just a few people involved, but unless there is public outrage among pens fans, you guys should be embarrassed. These guys are making your team and city look like idiots.

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I think that is very likely to happen actually. This isn't a peewee hockey game, this is the NHL. It was a worthless goal anyway with the outcome but what if it was a game tying goal or it ended up effecting the standings?

What if Pitt ended up scoring 2 goals in the 3rd to send it to OT?
Yep - someone is gonna get canned, and rightfully so. The only question is whether it will actually be the person responsible, or or some low level sacrificial lamb. And I fully expect a significant fine too.

I agree with whoever said the NHL is naive for putting themselves in this situation. The league should have real-time access to the feeds from every television camera in every arena, no exceptions. That they don't, and instead rely on some homer producer or network employee to provide them this footage, is unacceptable.

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what proof do you have that we "cheated?"

did you ever think that someone simply forgot to do their job?

i made a mistake at work friday, nearly had something BAD printed in a local paper. did i mean to do so in order to hurt someone? NO. It was a simple mistake.


for all you, i, or anyone else know, thats all this could be
It could be a mistake, that's why the NHL is investigating.

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I have to say its absolutely pathetic the NHL doesn't have a rep that looks at the camera angles and send them over. What about the Philly cameras? This is an NHL issue imo, they are at fault. How can a local hockey network be responsible for the NHLs "war room"? Makes no sense.

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what proof do you have that we "cheated?"

did you ever think that someone simply forgot to do their job?

i made a mistake at work friday, nearly had something BAD printed in a local paper. did i mean to do so in order to hurt someone? NO. It was a simple mistake.


for all you, i, or anyone else know, thats all this could be
I might of believed that had the announcers not been laughing and said "we saved that one" right after the goal was disallowed. They had that other feed up seconds after the official decision, they must of known they had it.

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johnathan! i knew you'd pop up eventually.

care to explain how this cant simply be a mistake in someone's job?

you know, liek a referee who missed an obvious call?
you're supposed to send every single angle you have. You dont just forget one, especially when its conveniently the only one that goes against your team.

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what proof do you have that we "cheated?"

did you ever think that someone simply forgot to do their job?

i made a mistake at work friday, nearly had something BAD printed in a local paper. did i mean to do so in order to hurt someone? NO. It was a simple mistake.


for all you, i, or anyone else know, thats all this could be
Sent all of the replays except the one that shows the puck in the goal…please.

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As I have mentioned before (since this appears to be the first time this has ever happened), this is a VERY dangerous precedent that the league absolutely HAS to stamp out immediately.
Yeah, but the more I think about it, the league is 'investigating' all kinds of things. The numerous contracts under investigation for possible cirumvention of the cap seem to be headed by Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau.

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what proof do you have that we "cheated?"

did you ever think that someone simply forgot to do their job?

i made a mistake at work friday, nearly had something BAD printed in a local paper. did i mean to do so in order to hurt someone? NO. It was a simple mistake.


for all you, i, or anyone else know, thats all this could be
That's why there is an investigation. If FSN Pittsburgh really DID withhold footage this is a very serious act.

Maybe you don't understand that this is in fact CHEATING if done on purpose.

Even if it was a simple mistake someone is going to get in trouble for this, and they definitely should.

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No... we lost 7-4.

which makes me wonder why someone else made the comment of deduct 2 points....

wow. anything to make the pens look bad
deduct 4 imo. teach those cheats a lesson

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you're supposed to send every single angle you have. You dont just forget one, especially when its conveniently the only one that goes against your team.
Especially when one of the commentators say "We held on to that one".

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