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01-11-2010, 09:17 PM
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Ron Greschner needs to be honored by the Rangers

With all the numbers the Rangers have retired it is amazing to me how the Rangers have not honored their former capt Ron Greschner ? The man was the best defenseman to play for the Rangers not named Leetch and had almost all the records for a Rangers Defenseman till Leetch came to NY. Greschner was a skilled defenseman who could skate end to end and score just as easily he could stop a on coming rush with his great poke check and man was he ever tough and could throw with both hands when needed. He was such a gifted player he was played on the left wing and at center when the team lacked scoring and put 4 20 goal seasons. He was all star and mentor to his younger teammates. he is a quick bio from NYR website.

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RANGERS DEBUT
Nov. 3, 1974 (Rangers vs. Buffalo Sabres)

FINAL GAME WITH RANGERS
April 27, 1990 (Rangers vs. Washington Capitals) (playoffs)

RANGERS CAPTAIN
Oct. 9, 1986 to Dec. 3, 1987

MAJOR NHL AWARDS/ACHIEVEMENTS WITH RANGERS
NHL All-Star Game 1980

RANGERS TEAM AWARDS
Players` Player Award 1977-78 (co-winner)
Rangers Good Guy Award 1985-86
"Crumb Bum" Award (Community Service) 1984-85

INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENTS WHILE WITH RANGERS
1979 Challenge Cup NHL All-Stars vs. USSR (reserve, did not play)

RANGERS TEAM LEADER
Most assists 1977-78, 1980-81
Most playoff assists 1980

RANGERS ORGANIZATION STATISTICS
Minor-league games: 7
Minor-league teams: Providence (AHL) 1974

MISCELLANEOUS
Nickname: Gresch
Full Name: Ronald Greschner
Uniform Numbers: 4
Retired from NHL: 1990

BIOGRAPHY
A member of the Rangers for all 16 of his NHL seasons, defenseman Ron Greschner was the heart and soul of the Blueshirts` blueline corps through that the late 1970s and the entire 1980s.

2010 -11 should feature a Ron Greschner night

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01-11-2010, 09:24 PM
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Uhh Brad Park?

Anyway, 2010-2011 is too soon for Greschner. Next year should be reserved for Petr Nedved.

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01-11-2010, 09:30 PM
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Greschner is also the Rangers' all-time leader in penalty minutes!

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greschner wasn't epic enough to deserve his own night

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01-11-2010, 10:04 PM
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Great Ranger ever.

Frank Boucher.

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They better not retire his number. No way he's good enough for that. He was a solid player, but he's a one time All Star who never won the Cup.

He was a solid player, but not retireable.

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greschner wasn't epic enough to deserve his own night
No many of you ever watched a hockey game before 1990 and 85% of you know nothing about the Rangers before Messier. Ron was a leader on and off the ice, he was a goal scorer and a shut down defenseman. The NHL had a lot less team in them days which ment fewer players stuck in the NHL. Ron is a freaking legend amongst his peers. A pure skater a gifted passer and 4 time 20 goal scorer defenseman yea he is a avg player.

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01-11-2010, 10:38 PM
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Actually years ago, before most of you were born, the Rangers honored all of the players who wore number 7 on the night Rod Gilbert's number was retired. If I remember correeectly, Frank Boucher was there and so was Red Sullivan.

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Great memory there. I have the puzzle they gave out the night they retired rod's number and have it signed by him.

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01-11-2010, 10:47 PM
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I liked Ron Greschner a great deal--watched him play his whole career here. However, I think the time to honor past players is over. Many of the most deserving played long before we were around to watch them--heck, most people's parents were too young to see the players who helped the Rangers win their 1st three Stanley Cups. There are so many players who should have been honored back when people who saw them play--and the players themselves--were young enough to remember and appreciate their efforts.

The only ceremony I want to see is one honoring Emile Francis. He did so much to help this organization and should have a banner up there too. I hope it's done while he's still around to enjoy the honor.

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The Rangers need a HOF for the organization itself. Maybe a Ring around the Garden like the Cowboys or Flyers have done for the stars of the 70's i agree

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The Rangers need a HOF for the organization itself. Maybe a Ring around the Garden like the Cowboys or Flyers have done for the stars of the 70's i agree
fully agree with this

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support, and I'd love to see Ratelle and Hadfield honored as well.

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I like the team Hall of Fame idea, but let's cool off with the retiring of numbers. Even Graves was pushing it for me, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt because that honor was for all his work off the ice as well as his playing career.

But if you retire Greshner now, then you have to retire Park, Hadfield, Ratelle, Espo -- and hell why not Tkaczuk and JD as well?

A team with as limited success as the Rangers have had throughout their history shouldn't have a dozen numbers in the rafters. We're not the Yankees (and the Yankees push it with their retired numbers as it is).

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honor? yes
retire his number? no

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He really was an excellent player, good guy, and respected teammate.

And that slapshot from the point to beat the Isles in 79 was one of my favs.


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How Freaking dare you mention Djoos in the same sentence as Ron. I know you ment it in jest but this read proves my point about the H.S. board all along. No many of you ever watched a hockey game before 1990 and 85% of you know nothing about the Rangers before Messier. Ron was a leader on and off the ice, he was a goal scorer and a shut down defenseman. The NHL had a lot less team in them days which ment fewer players stuck in the NHL. Ron is a freaking legend amongst his peers. A pure skater a gifted passer and 4 time 20 goal scorer defenseman yea he is a avg player. You guys are a pack of bullies on here either go with who you love or bash people this board is really not going in the right direction
Gresh was an excellent offensive defenseman. At no time in his career was Gresch a shut-down defenseman.

As much as you revere a man who can throw with both hands, this is not a reason to retire a number.

For all of your bluster about pre-1990, Brad Park was ten times the defenseman in every single facet of the game in comparison to Gresch, including fighting. Check the HOF if you don't believe me.

Greschner was in a total of 1 All-Star Game.

Park was in 6 All-Star games as a Ranger.

He was voted one of the top 4 defensemen in the league 6 times as a Ranger, four of those times one of the top 2 defensemen in the game. The only one ahead of him was a fellow named Orr and no I don't mean your God, Colton.

On the other hand, now that Graves has had his number retired, why not retire all of the good players who have ever worn the jersey?

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Gresh was an excellent offensive defenseman. At no time in his career was Gresch a shut-down defenseman.

As much as you revere a man who can throw with both hands, this is not a reason to retire a number.

For all of your bluster about pre-1990, Brad Park was ten times the defenseman in every single facet of the game in comparison to Gresch, including fighting. Check the HOF if you don't believe me.

Greschner was in a total of 1 All-Star Game.

Park was in 6 All-Star games as a Ranger.

He was voted one of the top 4 defensemen in the league 6 times as a Ranger, four of those times one of the top 2 defensemen in the game. The only one ahead of him was a fellow named Orr and no I don't mean your God, Colton.

On the other hand, now that Graves has had his number retired, why not retire all of the good players who have ever worn the jersey?


i agree with everything. basically stated what i was trying to say, though i wasn't 5% as eloquent.

and the difference is, graves won a cup. greschner didn't win anything.

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Gresch was a nice player, played many years for the Rangers, but that is it.

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Frank Boucher

Cook brothers

Ivan 'Ching' Johnson

Ott Heller

Jean Ratelle

Are all also guys who should be honored.

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Uh, Bill Cook deserves this honor more than any other Ranger, some already up in the rafters.

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The Rangers shouls retire Carol Alt's number. She was the answer to the question........Who has the best seat in the Garden?

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Kind of OT, but who would you pick for the all 1980's NYR team? Gresch would have to be one of the Dmen, who else would you pick?


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Brad Park > Greschner

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Kind of OT, but who would you pick for the all 19080's NYR team? Gresch would have to be one of the Dmen, who else would you pick?
James Patrick, Reijo Ruotsalainen, Barry Beck, Tom Laidlaw, Dave Maloney

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