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01-13-2010, 09:30 PM
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Newsflash to Oilers management:

Oil fans want to finish low this year. We are grown up enough to handle a rebuild. A promising, growing, and budding team is as exciting to watch as a 6-10 finish team, especially with the potential.

People have to lay of Tambo. What is he supposed to say? Behind closed doors they probably have plans to lay waste to the club. Patience and slowly shedding veterans is what we want. A few bad words of negativity is the difference between 3000 people attending a game or not. It is an illusion. Tambo is smarter than the collective group of us, he knows what is going on.

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01-13-2010, 09:31 PM
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Now I see why Vancouver kept ignoring him to become their gm.
*sigh* Yeah, we seem to be connecting the dots now. Luckily we still have Lowe and Prendergast to take the reins... oh... wait...

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01-13-2010, 09:31 PM
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Newsflash to Oilers management:

Oil fans want to finish low this year. We are grown up enough to handle a rebuild. A promising, growing, and budding team is as exciting to watch as a 6-10 finish team, especially with the potential.

People have to lay of Tambo. What is he supposed to say? Behind closed doors they probably have plans to lay waste to the club. Patience and slowly shedding veterans is what we want. A few bad words of negativity is the difference between 3000 people attending a game or not. It is an illusion. Tambo is smarter than the collective group of us, he knows what is going on.
nope.

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01-13-2010, 09:35 PM
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It's a 3 to 5 year process and patience is the key.

However, the oiler management team has shown no patience.
Right, three to five years. This is the beginning of year one.

They haven't shown any patience?

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01-13-2010, 09:36 PM
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Why not judge him by his actions rather than his words.

So far:

A second round pick for Kotalik who walked.
A 2nd round pick that wasn't even theirs
Brodziak given away.
A marginal return for a marginal player
Chris Neal offered a contract equivalent to a second line player.
Pointless as he didn't sign
Effectively Cole for O'Sullivan.
As opposed to losing Cole for nothing?
Comrie signed.
Cheap contract for a former 30 goal scorer, what's the big deal
Khabilbulin signed.
I'll agree with this point, not so much the player but the length of the contract.
Laraque offered stupid contract.
Pointless as he didn't sign.
The chase for the Great White Whale

A very underwhelming 18 months of work IMO.
I think Tambo has been handcuffed by Lowe is the main problem.

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01-13-2010, 09:38 PM
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Quick Recap

- Tambo said winning is overrated
- feels ticket price increase is warranted based on the fact the Oilers have consistently delivered 41 home games every year for the past decade
- will move 1st overall pick if the right package for a top 6 forward comes along
- is targeting Kovalchuk next year, him, Lowe and Katz will be flying a plane to Russia on July 1st to convince Ilya to sign. Tambo said he will not pursue any other UFA's or trades until Kovalchuk either signs here or somewhere else. Doesn't have any idea what he'll do if Kovy doen't sign

- Thinks MPS, Eberle, Omarra, CHornery, Omark, Lander, MacDonald and VanderVelde are all NHL ready, will move vets to open spots for them

The bolded part is unbelievable. Did he really say all of this? The unbolded part perhaps could be plausible, but the team would still suck

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The bolded part is unbelievable. Did he really say all of this? The unbolded part perhaps could be plausible, but the team would still suck

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01-13-2010, 09:45 PM
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Quick Recap

- Tambo said winning is overrated
- feels ticket price increase is warranted based on the fact the Oilers have consistently delivered 41 home games every year for the past decade
- will move 1st overall pick if the right package for a top 6 forward comes along
- is targeting Kovalchuk next year, him, Lowe and Katz will be flying a plane to Russia on July 1st to convince Ilya to sign. Tambo said he will not pursue any other UFA's or trades until Kovalchuk either signs here or somewhere else. Doesn't have any idea what he'll do if Kovy doen't sign
- Thinks MPS, Eberle, Omarra, CHornery, Omark, Lander, MacDonald and VanderVelde are all NHL ready, will move vets to open spots for them
i hope to god you're being sarcastic.

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01-13-2010, 09:46 PM
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Why not judge him by his actions rather than his words.

So far:

A second round pick for Kotalik who walked.

Brodziak given away.

Chris Neal offered a contract equivalent to a second line player.

Effectively Cole for O'Sullivan.

Comrie signed.

Khabilbulin signed.

Laraque offered stupid contract.

The chase for the Great White Whale

A very underwhelming 18 months of work IMO.
Well summarized . I saw Tambellini as a dud from day one . Why would we even want to hire a guy whose career "accomplishments" were building a whale team that went nowhere year after year in spite of having the self-proclaimed best line in hockey ?

Tambellini is Lowe light . Even if the team manages to accumulate some talent I have little confidence in his ability to craft a team out of the pieces .

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01-13-2010, 09:48 PM
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Right, three to five years. This is the beginning of year one.

They haven't shown any patience?
Not in the last six months.

Khabibulin?

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01-13-2010, 09:50 PM
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Well summarized . I saw Tambellini as a dud from day one . Why would we even want to hire a guy whose career "accomplishments" were building a whale team that went nowhere year after year in spite of having the self-proclaimed best line in hockey ?

Tambellini is Lowe light . Even if the team manages to accumulate some talent I have little confidence in his ability to craft a team out of the pieces .
Lowe and Tambellini are the wrong men for the job.

Watch.

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01-13-2010, 09:51 PM
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i hope to god you're being sarcastic.

Nope,Tambo did say all of this stuff today.

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It's a 3 to 5 year process and patience is the key.

However, the oiler management team has shown no patience.

And that's the counter argument.

The runs at Hossa and Heatley. The rumours of Jagr. The Bulin contract. To be fair to them, I think they legitimately thought they were close. Just one new coach and one piece away.

I'm hopeful they realise they have an opportunity now to at least go high for one year. The longer with no news, the better.

I'm hoping even more that the poorer result with coaching improved v1.0 leads them to a longer term view. We'll see.

The problem is that the Oilers have well-drafted forwards behind them, and questions in goal and at D. This may take a while to sort itself out. Illich, JimmyD and Redwings are a favoured object of emulation. It helps to know that it took Illich and JimmyD over ten years to get it going.

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Not in the last six months.

Khabibulin?
If signing Khabibulin shows no patience, then not making any panic moves during the season shows complete patience.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to argue definitively in either direction, because like I said, this team with this management hasn't been in this position before.

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Lowe and Tambellini are the wrong men for the job.

Watch.
Do you think Katz is even worried at this point ? Personally I think he's just thinking about getting an arena built and under-estimates how difficult it is to build a winning team .

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If signing Khabibulin shows no patience, then not making any panic moves during the season shows complete patience.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to argue definitively in either direction, because like I said, this team with this management hasn't been in this position before.
We do have the list of moves summarized above . And we can look at his track record in Vancouver . What about any of that inspires optimism ?

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If signing Khabibulin shows no patience, then not making any panic moves during the season shows complete patience.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to argue definitively in either direction, because like I said, this team with this management hasn't been in this position before.
Or it shows that there are very few trades made during the season until the trade deadline, even then the number of trades are down.

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Do you think Katz is even worried at this point ? Personally I think he's just thinking about getting an arena built and under-estimates how difficult it is to build a winning team .
I would guess he's looking at the bottom line and not much else.

The Oilers sent out a survey asking how much of an increase in ticket prices they are willing to absorb.

i know what my answer would be. It involves sex and travel.

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If signing Khabibulin shows no patience, then not making any panic moves during the season shows complete patience.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to argue definitively in either direction, because like I said, this team with this management hasn't been in this position before.
So basicly management is as bi-polar as the fanbase.

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Or it shows that there are very few trades made during the season until the trade deadline, even then the number of trades are down.
And signing Khabibulin on July 1 shows it's the first day of free agency. It goes both (either) ways because it's a brand new situation for this management.

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And signing Khabibulin on July 1 shows it's the first day of free agency. It goes both (either) ways because it's a brand new situation for this management.
Oh goodie,

Some noobs in charge of an NHL franchise.

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I would guess he's looking at the bottom line and not much else.

The Oilers sent out a survey asking how much of an increase in ticket prices they are willing to absorb.

i know what my answer would be. It involves sex and travel.
Back to Thailand?

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Not in the last six months.

Khabibulin?
But the rebuild wasn't going on in the offseason. They still thought (and many here as well) that the Oil could be a top 5-7 team in the West.

Let's look at their patience a year from now to really be in a position to judge.

On another note, I wonder if Tambo and Lowe and the rest of them are hesitant of a rebuild because they're worried they may not be chosen to lead it. I think Katz would stay with the group they have now, but maybe they're unsure of that?

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Oh goodie,

Some noobs in charge of an NHL franchise.
You could just say you're out of stuff to type.

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And signing Khabibulin on July 1 shows it's the first day of free agency. It goes both (either) ways because it's a brand new situation for this management.
I agree with you in one way in that he hasnt been trigger happy when it comes to moves, he is very deliberate. However we disagree in that I dont see evidence of patience as far as building a contender vs winning now. His moves that were made this summer and arguably at the deadline were win now moves.

This back and forth pendulum like swinging between the extremes of rebuilding (Smyth trade) and win now (Visnovsky, Souray, Khabby, Heatley, Hossa) and now back to rebuild (tanking for a pick) is beyond bizarre and is the most damning evidence of reactionary management fumbling blindly in the dark without a plan. Very scary indeed.

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Newsflash to Oilers management:

Oil fans want to finish low this year. We are grown up enough to handle a rebuild. A promising, growing, and budding team is as exciting to watch as a 6-10 finish team, especially with the potential.

People have to lay of Tambo. What is he supposed to say? Behind closed doors they probably have plans to lay waste to the club. Patience and slowly shedding veterans is what we want. A few bad words of negativity is the difference between 3000 people attending a game or not. It is an illusion. Tambo is smarter than the collective group of us, he knows what is going on.
He sure as hell hasn't shown that he is smarter than the collective board with his moves as GM so far.

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