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Official Trade rumors and proposals thread - 2010 yearly [s]slump[/s] mojo edition

This one is posted on the Oilers board:

O'Brien, Lee and a 2nd round pick to Edmonton for Cogliano

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http://insidemanhockey.blogspot.com/

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=724340

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That seems like a lot for Cogliano.

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Kind of an overpayment for a struggling young player. Lee to me is at least a solid top 4, Cogs is looking more like a bust, he's looking more like a Dean McAmmond type, great fourth line depth player, but hardly the type we don't have plenty of already.

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That seems like a lot for Cogliano.
thats what I feel aswell, but where theres smoke theres fire

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I agree, way to much for Cogliano

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Kind of an overpayment for a struggling young player. Lee to me is at least a solid top 4, Cogs is looking more like a bust, he's looking more like a Dean McAmmond type, great fourth line depth player, but hardly the type we don't have plenty of already.
Lee could be a top 4 d man but he may not.As for cogs i would not say is a bust he has skill and maybe with a good line he could produce.

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We' ve been discussing this for a little while now... (merge?)

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=724141

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I find it a bit of an overpayment, but I think that's what it's gonna take to make a trade at this point in the season.

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The blog it was taken from has it as a done deal "pending league approval"

- Pending league approval the Edmonton Oilers have dealt Andrew Cogliano to the Ottawa Senators for D, Brian Lee, C, Jim O'Brien and a 2nd round pick. Cogs had been a target of the Senators since the failed Heatley trade in the summer.

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Is this blog credible?

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That's a serious overpayment. What has Cogliano proven in the NHL to warrant an NHL D, a developing #1draft pick and a 2nd rd pick? He hasn't even eclipsed 40pts or 20 goals. I understand his potential, but I can also see the potential in Lee and O'brien as well, not to mention what a 2nd rd pick could be. Too much - bottom line.

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I still don't get why this is "overpayment"...

Cogliano has had two seasons in the NHL... averaging around 40 points and he's only 22.

Lee is not in our plans and his contract is up after this season. I like what he brings, but with the prospects we have and the players we have already, I'd rather get more talent up front.

O'Brien might or might not be a bust.

The 2nd rounder is a late one, and we have one already.

People really need to stop putting so much importance on certain draft picks. O'Brien and Lee are the perfect examples. I really like what we've done at the draft table in the next few years, but truth of the matter is that 2nd rounders are still long shots in terms of percentage.

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We' ve been discussing this for a little while now... (merge?)

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=724141
that is what I was thinking and the fact it is not a legit source

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Am I the only one thinking this is a massive overpayment from Ottawa? There's overpayment, and then there's MASSIVE overpayment.

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Well, we really need another 4 goal scorer who can't play in traffic.

Kind of like Shannon except he can't play as well.

Terrible trade proposal - it gives us nothing we don't have already, we end up giving away Lee for what I regard as a marginal player.

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That's a serious overpayment. What has Cogliano proven in the NHL to warrant an NHL D, a developing #1draft pick and a 2nd rd pick? He hasn't even eclipsed 40pts or 20 goals. I understand his potential, but I can also see the potential in Lee and O'brien as well, not to mention what a 2nd rd pick could be. Too much - bottom line.
18G in the past two seasons and an average of 41 points in the same stretch as well, how is that not eclipsing 40 pts?

Also, Cogliano IS a developing 1st rounder himself, Lee doesn't fit our plans and the 2nd will be late and we have one already.

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That's a serious overpayment. What has Cogliano proven in the NHL to warrant an NHL D, a developing #1draft pick and a 2nd rd pick? He hasn't even eclipsed 40pts or 20 goals. I understand his potential, but I can also see the potential in Lee and O'brien as well, not to mention what a 2nd rd pick could be. Too much - bottom line.
The chances of lee resigning in ottawa i think is slim.Cogilano is a good player not great but is good.Again with lee he is a free agent this summer and the chances of him staying are slim.

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Huge overpayment and why are we trading three prospects for Cogliano?

We're a bubble playoff team, we need picks, lots of them, to build toward a brighter future. We already have a Cogliano, his name is Peter Regin and we don't have to give anything to obtain him...

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Huge overpayment and why are we trading three prospects for Cogliano?

We're a bubble playoff team, we need picks, lots of them, to build toward a brighter future. We already have a Cogliano, his name is Peter Regin and we don't have to give anything to obtain him...
I would not say its a huge overpayment at all.Cog could very ell be a big part of the future he is young and has some skill.I think cogs is a bit better then regin.You don't just need picks you aslo need young players and cogs is young.

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Am I the only one thinking this is a massive overpayment from Ottawa? There's overpayment, and then there's MASSIVE overpayment.
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this deal is being discussed--the oilers are sending something in return as well as cogliano(oiler fan here)

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Well, we really need another 4 goal scorer who can't play in traffic.

Kind of like Shannon except he can't play as well.

Terrible trade proposal - it gives us nothing we don't have already, we end up giving away Lee for what I regard as a marginal player.
So you would perfer to lose lee for nothing is that what your saying.

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So you would perfer to lose lee for nothing is that what your saying.
It is actually impossible for us to lose Lee for nothing unless we put him on waivers.

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Am I the only one thinking this is a massive overpayment from Ottawa? There's overpayment, and then there's MASSIVE overpayment.
I thinks its an overpayment, but not a MASSIVE overpayment.

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So you would perfer to lose lee for nothing is that what your saying.

Well, Lee is a marginal player too and losing him will not set us back.

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the way I look at it is we don't have alot of forward prospects/young players up front with potential, but we have a surplus of them on D, Karlsson, Lee, Cowen, Weircioch.

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