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01-12-2010, 11:04 AM
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if if if

this deal is being discussed--the oilers are sending something in return as well as cogliano(oiler fan here)
I agree, or there is no pick included by Ottawa.

I can see Lee + O'Brien for Cogliano

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So you would perfer to lose lee for nothing is that what your saying.
I thought I read on this board Lee was a RFA - not a UFA. Can anyone confirm that ?

Edit: 'CapCentral' reports Lee as an RFA next year.

In this situation there is no need to give up a pretty good prospect for a marginal player.

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I think Lee and O'Brien for Cogs is fine. Seems like the 2nd was added because we're kind of desperate with all the injuries

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So you would perfer to lose lee for nothing is that what your saying.
How do you lose him for nothing?

Are you saying offer sheets will be flying in? Simply offering lee a qualifying offer will make him stay ours.

or we can also trade him for something, which is what is being discussed.

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01-12-2010, 11:06 AM
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Cogliano is younger than Brian Lee.

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Huge overpayment and why are we trading three prospects for Cogliano?

We're a bubble playoff team, we need picks, lots of them, to build toward a brighter future. We already have a Cogliano, his name is Peter Regin and we don't have to give anything to obtain him...
Would you guys trade Foligno for Chorney, Nash and 2nd ? or would that be a huge overpayment by Oilers?


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How do you lose him for nothing?

Our you saying offer sheets will be flying in? Simply offering lee a qualifying offer will make him stay ours.

or we can also trade him for something, which is what is being discussed.
Thats the question would ottawa make him a offer.

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01-12-2010, 11:07 AM
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What's the skinny on Lee. I hate to lose Cogs, but I'm hearing he is a physical, great pass type of d-man. If true I think he would be good for us. Seems like an overpayment, but I really don't know if O'Brien is worth much. Who knows maybe we are sending a pick/prospect back.

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Thats the question would ottawa make him a offer.
They would,even if it was to trade him later on in the year. He has some value. They would rather trade him for even a 6th round pick before letting him walk without qualifying him. Think about it.

You can qualify him to the exact same 2way deal he had.(or is it plus 10%?) Even if he does not except, because they offered it to him, he remains property of the senators. It does not mean they have a contract in place.(remember havlat?) Then they would trade him for the best offer or keep him in their organization. Or they'll trade him this year. In no way will they lose him for nothing without qualifying him. It wouldn't make sense.

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Our past 2nd rounders:

2009: Lehner, Silfverberg
2008: Weircoch
2007: Bashkirov
2006: Liamin
2005: Mirnov
2004: Kaigorodov


Late 2nd rounders are not as big a deal as people make them out to be. There are still question marks around Lehner, Weircoch and Silfverberg in case some of you don't remember.

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01-12-2010, 11:09 AM
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I think O'Brien and Lee is an overpayment. But heck, let's hope BM doesn't get ripped . . . again. .

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Cogliano is younger than Brian Lee.
By how much? They were drafted the same year so most likely it's only months difference.

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01-12-2010, 11:11 AM
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Why isn't Lee in our plans anymore? Picard and Campoli are terrible, I bet Lee is in the AHL right now because he's the only one out of the 3 who has a two-way deal
Why are we writing off O'brien so quickly? not all the young players can play at 19,20 years of age in the NHL , he's in his first season as a pro , cut him some slack

I would give Campoli/Picard + SJS 2nd(and that's only because the injury bug hit us and I want to see Lee up here, otherwise I wouldn't make this trade)

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If Edmonton throws in there 3rd round pick with Cogs I say DEAL.

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By how much? They were drafted the same year so most likely it's only months difference.
You are right (3 months). Just saying that because people are making it out to be 3 young prospects for a veteran.


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Thats the question would ottawa make him a offer.
Not if they don't want him, no. Otherwise we keep him. You aren't going to see offer sheets for him. He's still too raw to generate a significant offer we couldn't match.

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Our past 2nd rounders:

2009: Lehner, Silfverberg
2008: Weircoch
2007: Bashkirov
2006: Liamin
2005: Mirnov
2004: Kaigorodov


Late 2nd rounders are not as big a deal as people make them out to be. There are still question marks around Lehner, Weircoch and Silfverberg in case some of you don't remember.

Well Murray only drafted from 2007 and on, so 04-06 is irrelevant to me since Mucks made those picks, . Even in 07 Murray was only GM for a month or so before the traded and probably wasn't as prepared as a normal GM would be. When Murray has had a full season preparation as sens GM he has drafted incredibly well.

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Why isn't Lee in our plans anymore? Picard and Campoli are terrible, I bet Lee is in the AHL right now because he's the only one out of the 3 who has a two-way deal
Why are we writing off O'brien so quickly? not all the young players can play at 19,20 years of age in the NHL , he's in his first season as a pro , cut him some slack

I would give Campoli/Picard + SJS 2nd(and that's only because the injury bug hit us and I want to see Lee up here, otherwise I wouldn't make this trade)
Well, I generally agree with this.

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01-12-2010, 11:14 AM
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I'm hoping its Lee, OB, 2nd for Cogliano and Nash/Omark.
That would be good for me.

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01-12-2010, 11:16 AM
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What good would Cogliano do? I thought we were looking to add offense to this team. He'd be 18th on the team in points, behind everyone's favorite Jonathon Cheechoo.

O'Brien is probably just a throw-in, as he doesn't have much value right now. It will be a few years before he makes the NHL, if at all.

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01-12-2010, 11:17 AM
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Cogliano sucks. We don't need him.

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I still don't get why this is "overpayment"...

Cogliano has had two seasons in the NHL... averaging around 40 points and he's only 22.

Lee is not in our plans and his contract is up after this season. I like what he brings, but with the prospects we have and the players we have already, I'd rather get more talent up front.

O'Brien might or might not be a bust.

The 2nd rounder is a late one, and we have one already.

People really need to stop putting so much importance on certain draft picks. O'Brien and Lee are the perfect examples. I really like what we've done at the draft table in the next few years, but truth of the matter is that 2nd rounders are still long shots in terms of percentage.
Lehner, Petersson, Smith...

I'd do Lee and O'Brien, but the 2nd rounder is way too much for me... We need forward depth, so I'd rather hold onto the pick.

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01-12-2010, 11:19 AM
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Even some Oilers fans I talk to out here think that's an overpayment. Lee or O'Brien, I wouldn't give up both.

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Why isn't Lee in our plans anymore? Picard and Campoli are terrible, I bet Lee is in the AHL right now because he's the only one out of the 3 who has a two-way deal
Why are we writing off O'brien so quickly? not all the young players can play at 19,20 years of age in the NHL , he's in his first season as a pro , cut him some slack
I would give Campoli/Picard + SJS 2nd(and that's only because the injury bug hit us and I want to see Lee up here, otherwise I wouldn't make this trade)
Holy **** someone else realizes this.

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01-12-2010, 11:29 AM
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Holy **** someone else realizes this.
Agreed, that's why I'd want another prospect coming back if he was included. Ideally this would just be Lee and a 2nd for Cogliano, I feel like O'Brien can turn into a solid guy for us.

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