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01-14-2010, 06:26 PM
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LOL. Not a chance. Both Madden and Bolland are bottom six players.


Any player that can consistently win draws is a 1st line center..

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01-14-2010, 06:26 PM
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A centers job is to win more draws then they lose and Madden and Bolland win more then they lose...

^nuff said..
Do you watch the game of hockey? There's no way you can.

Does that make Yannoc Perreault a 1rst line center?

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01-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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If Jokinen could get some damn puck luck and stop hitting posts, then he would be a "true" first line center....


First reply is written with homer all over it.

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01-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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A centers job is to win more draws then they lose and Madden and Bolland win more then they lose...

^nuff said..
Yes, that would be a centers job. But theres more to that job description when you're a first line center.

I can't believe I just had to explain that...

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01-14-2010, 06:29 PM
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Do you watch the game of hockey? There's no way you can.

Does that make Yannoc Perreault a 1rst line center?
Scott Nichol is a Top 3 center. Didn't you know?

Has Yannick retired yet? Cause hes probably looking at a HHOF nod.

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01-14-2010, 06:29 PM
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Yea Malkin, didn't have any pressure in the playoffs last year and when Crosby was out of the lineup for 30+ games. Learn the game of hockey before you post.
I didn't say he played bad with the pressure on him, but that he plays best when Crosby is in the line-up.

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01-14-2010, 06:31 PM
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Atlanta definitely does not have a 1st line center.

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I didn't say he played bad with the pressure on him, but that he plays best when Crosby is in the line-up.
Wait, you mean someone plays better when a superstar player is on the team? what a ****ing revelation.

Furthermore, if anything he elevated his game when Crosby wasn't in the line up.

Also lol @ the people getting baited by hawksfan.

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01-14-2010, 06:37 PM
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At least the oilers have a bonafide number 3 center...

Shawn horcoff is good enough to center a 3rd line right?

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01-14-2010, 06:40 PM
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Do you watch the game of hockey? There's no way you can.

Does that make Yannoc Perreault a 1rst line center?
Worst possible comparison..

Are you trying to say Perreault was in the same ballpark as Madden?

Madden and Bolland can find the back of the net when its the point.

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01-14-2010, 06:40 PM
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My list for teams that have one:

Anaheim: Getzlaf
Boston: Savard
Carolina: Staal
Chicago: Towes
Colorado: Stastny
Dallas: Ribeiro, Richards
Detroit: Datsyuk, Zetterberg
L.A.: Kopitar
Minny: Koivu
Ottawa: Spezza
Philly: Richards, Carter
Pitts: Crosby, Malkin
San Jose: Thornton
Tampa Bay: Vinny, Stamkos
Vancouver: Sedin
Washington: Backstrom

There really isn't alot of them out there.

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01-14-2010, 06:42 PM
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Any player that can consistently win draws is a 1st line center..
By your logic, here are some first line centers in the NHL:

Zenon Konopka
Manny Malhotra
Scott Nichol
Jon Sim
Wayne Primeau


All have won 55% or more of their faceoffs. They're first line centers by your noobish logic.

Ugh.

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01-14-2010, 06:47 PM
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Yes, that would be a centers job. But theres more to that job description when you're a first line center.

I can't believe I just had to explain that...
Of course there is more of a job description... Madden can score, Bolland can score..

They're not flashy but you get a winger that can thread them the puck THEY BOTH will be in front of the net doing their jobs..

Madden and Bolland are defensive guys but don't think for a second they couldn't step up and play on the first line....

This argument is more of a depth issue then anything else...

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01-14-2010, 06:50 PM
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This argument is more of a depth issue then anything else...
Yes I'm sure that depth is very relevant to a discussion of FIRST LINE CENTERS.

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01-14-2010, 06:52 PM
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By your logic, here are some first line centers in the NHL:

Zenon Konopka
Manny Malhotra
Scott Nichol
Jon Sim
Wayne Primeau


All have won 55% or more of their faceoffs. They're first line centers by your noobish logic.

Ugh.
Using your logic lines should CONSTANTLY stay the same because some players are better then others...

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01-14-2010, 06:52 PM
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My list for teams that have one:

Anaheim: Getzlaf
Boston: Savard
Carolina: Staal
Chicago: Toews, Bolland, Madden, Sharp, Fraser, Brophey, Pirri, Delisle
Colorado: Stastny
Dallas: Ribeiro, Richards
Detroit: Datsyuk, Zetterberg
L.A.: Kopitar
Minny: Koivu
Philly: Richards, Carter
Pitts: Crosby, Malkin
San Jose: Thornton
Tampa Bay: Vinny, Stamkos
Vancouver: Sedin
Washington: Backstrom

There really isn't alot of them out there.
fixed.

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Of course there is more of a job description... Madden can score, Bolland can score..

They're not flashy but you get a winger that can thread them the puck THEY BOTH will be in front of the net doing their jobs..

Madden and Bolland are defensive guys but don't think for a second they couldn't step up and play on the first line....

This argument is more of a depth issue then anything else...
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01-14-2010, 06:55 PM
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A centers job is to win more draws then they lose and Madden and Bolland win more then they lose...

^nuff said..
They are not first line centers.

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01-14-2010, 06:57 PM
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Yes I'm sure that depth is very relevant to a discussion of FIRST LINE CENTERS.
It is...

Look at depth charts..

What do you think would happen if your team lost your first line center?

Your second line center is now playing on the first line..

^^ thats even a bad example because a good coach would have different lines depending on the match up..

Hockey is a team sport man...

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01-14-2010, 06:58 PM
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The Blue Jackets haven't had a first line center in their entire history.

As someone else mentioned...the closest is andrew cassels.

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You guys would make horrible coaches...

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Many fans of other teams will disagree with me, and even some other NJ fans will, but I believe Zajac is a #1 C. Not a great one, obviously, but he's on pace for ~70 points and is generally outstanding defensively. In my book that qualifies you as a top line center in this league.

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At least the oilers have a bonafide number 3 center...

Shawn horcoff is good enough to center a 3rd line right?
Dude,

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01-14-2010, 07:00 PM
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You guys would make horrible coaches...
And I am starting to believe you will make a great troll someday.

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01-14-2010, 07:07 PM
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Every NHL player has a skill, something they're good at... Some players are better at things then others you get the right concoction and well you got a good line..

Hockey is about chemistry...

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