HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > National Hockey League Talk
National Hockey League Talk Discuss NHL players, teams, games, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Brodeur and Lundqvist, Redux

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-15-2010, 06:31 AM
  #76
joe89
#5
 
joe89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Country: Sweden
Posts: 16,564
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roland Gilead View Post
Top 3 goalie? He is good, but not even close top 3, maybe top 10. And yes, I have seen many Rangers games and IMO he is overrated. Good but not THAT good.
Why lie? The option is ignorant, but I'd go with lying.

joe89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 06:42 AM
  #77
UNCUT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 320
vCash: 500
almost EVERY game recap with the rangers i read lundqvist is either 1st 2nd or 3rd star of the game. yet they always lose.

i feel sorry for lundqvist. he is such a great goalie. im wondering how long before a mental breakdown. it must be tough for a peaking goalie to play so hard every game to keep the whole team in the game by himself just to not get any help at all from his teammates. it feels like a waste..

UNCUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 07:28 AM
  #78
joe89
#5
 
joe89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Country: Sweden
Posts: 16,564
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNCUT View Post
almost EVERY game recap with the rangers i read lundqvist is either 1st 2nd or 3rd star of the game. yet they always lose.

i feel sorry for lundqvist. he is such a great goalie. im wondering how long before a mental breakdown. it must be tough for a peaking goalie to play so hard every game to keep the whole team in the game by himself just to not get any help at all from his teammates. it feels like a waste..
I think the mental aspect is one of his strengths. He is extremely competitive, he will always claim he has to play better for the team to win even if he's not to blame for any goal. He is always up for the challenge.

joe89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 07:45 AM
  #79
vippe
Registered User
 
vippe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 10,768
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to vippe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roland Gilead View Post
Top 3 goalie? He is good, but not even close top 3, maybe top 10. And yes, I have seen many Rangers games and IMO he is overrated. Good but not THAT good.
Wow... finnish homers at its worst.

vippe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 08:15 AM
  #80
Chimp
Registered User
 
Chimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: In my food garden.
Country: Sweden
Posts: 10,476
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass Lee View Post
AHL bum? Give they guy credit, he's a solid goalie and had a very good game.

I'm really happy he got a shutout, after reading the first four pages of the Rangers GDT. The one guy made about 3 posts to talk about how much Brodeur sucks.
I don't think most of us are trying to discredit Brodeur for being a good goalie, if you made it to even play one NHL game, you know what you're doing after all (unless you're a web designer for the Capitals). But seriously... when we face an Ottawa team that is very depleted and has the backup's backup in net because both goaltenders are out... and Rangers fans knew this crap would happen... frustration will ooze in various forms.

A shutout is a shutout, but when your team barely tests a goaltender at all, that has his 2nd career NHL game and you know you have a very good chance of winning the game if you just play at least average hockey, it's pretty standard the word "AHL bum" will fly through the air in a GDT.

The anger is directed towards the sorry excuse of a NHL team the Rangers is. You know it's bad when there is serious concern many posters are getting awkwardly worried Lundqvist might ask for a trade soon, because if the fans were him, we would've had enough by now.

Chimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 09:05 AM
  #81
Larsson
4th Line Boys
 
Larsson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Holmdel, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 10,397
vCash: 500
From the Elias Sports Bureau:

Brodeur is only the fourth goaltender in the NHL's "modern era" to start and win each of his first two games while allowing no more than one goal in the two games combined. The other netminders to do that were Mario Lessard (October 1978), David Aebischer (October 2000) and Al Montoya (April 2009).

The Rangers were shut out at home by Martin Brodeur on Tuesday and Mike Brodeur on Thursday. It's the first time in NHL history that a team was shut out in consecutive games by different goaltenders with the same last name.

Going back to the third period of their game in Boston on Saturday, the Rangers played 127:30 without scoring or allowing a goal. That was the longest such stretch for any NHL team since Dec. 18-23, 1999, when the Calgary Flames went 135:19 without a goal for or against.

Larsson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 10:01 AM
  #82
TheHMan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,426
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZ Pops View Post
From the Elias Sports Bureau:

Brodeur is only the fourth goaltender in the NHL's "modern era" to start and win each of his first two games while allowing no more than one goal in the two games combined. The other netminders to do that were Mario Lessard (October 1978), David Aebischer (October 2000) and Al Montoya (April 2009).

The Rangers were shut out at home by Martin Brodeur on Tuesday and Mike Brodeur on Thursday. It's the first time in NHL history that a team was shut out in consecutive games by different goaltenders with the same last name.

Going back to the third period of their game in Boston on Saturday, the Rangers played 127:30 without scoring or allowing a goal. That was the longest such stretch for any NHL team since Dec. 18-23, 1999, when the Calgary Flames went 135:19 without a goal for or against.
It would have been back to back shutouts if it weren't for Havlat's leg. The initial shot against him was very stoppable, but it hit Havlat right in front of the net for a point blank redirection.


Still I'm not getting my hopes up with Brodeur, he can be very hot and cold. I just don't think we've seen the cold side of him yet in the NHL:

AHL: .892 sv% , 3.03 GAA
NHL: .980 sv% , 0.5 GAA

TheHMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 10:28 AM
  #83
Refuse
Mr. Hockey
 
Refuse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stockholm / LA
Posts: 1,621
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roland Gilead View Post
Top 3 goalie? He is good, but not even close top 3, maybe top 10. And yes, I have seen many Rangers games and IMO he is overrated. Good but not THAT good.
Let me guess:
#1 Kipper
#2 Backstrom
#3 Nitty

Refuse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 11:07 AM
  #84
Carl Hagelins Flow
Flow Status: AMAZING
 
Carl Hagelins Flow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 4,232
vCash: 500
LOL Finnish homer.

Lundy is easily top5 in the league. And some could make the argument at times top3.

As for being a headcase? If wearing your heart on your shoulder and playing each game passionately and being devastated if you lose is being a headcase, then damn, I wish more players could be headcases.

And if I was a goalie who couldn't focus or couldn't get on my game, I'd ask to be pulled as well to give my team a chance to win. Didn't a certain hall of fame goalie have a temper tantrum and demand to be pulled and ultimately demand to be traded when he and his team were having a bad game? Oh right, Patrick Roy.

Carl Hagelins Flow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 12:19 PM
  #85
13th Floor
Registered User
 
13th Floor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 3,477
vCash: 500
LOL, I don't even want to find the original post that flamed Henrik, but he's one of the best goalies in the league for sure.

If he could find a way to score 2 goals a game, the Rangers would be undefeated. And I'm an Islander fan...

13th Floor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 12:21 PM
  #86
Scottyk9
Goals? Please!
 
Scottyk9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: East Rutherford, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 24,928
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Scottyk9
Would Mike Brodeur be a hall of fame goalie if it wasn't for the Coyotes ?

Scottyk9 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 12:27 PM
  #87
FLYLine24*
 
FLYLine24*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 29,102
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vippe View Post
Wow... finnish homers at its worst.
Yea..looking at his posting history he is about as bad as they come. He even stated that Lundqvist was horrible last season and he was only a top 30 goalie

FLYLine24* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 12:30 PM
  #88
nyrleetch
Registered User
 
nyrleetch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: East Lansing
Country: United States
Posts: 2,996
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Isles Amnesia View Post
LOL, I don't even want to find the original post that flamed Henrik, but he's one of the best goalies in the league for sure.

If he could find a way to score 2 goals a game, the Rangers would be undefeated. And I'm an Islander fan...

nyrleetch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 12:33 PM
  #89
Tomas W
Registered User
 
Tomas W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 4,646
vCash: 500
Brodeur vs Lundqvist 2-0. Lundy probably want a bit more help from his teammates next game.

Tomas W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 12:39 PM
  #90
Ail
k.
 
Ail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mysidia
Country: United States
Posts: 15,931
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anderson View Post


+



=

shutout
Quote:
Originally Posted by FATCHAMALA11 View Post
I'm pretty sure this could shut us out.
Hahahahahahaha! Oh god it's so sad, but so true right now.



It's going to be a long weekend.

__________________
Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 08:08 PM
  #91
Tavaresmagicalplay*
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 19,306
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vippe View Post
Wow.. what a nutcase
I really don't get this. Did you just not like what I had to say?

Tavaresmagicalplay* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-15-2010, 08:31 PM
  #92
Mach 9*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York (not city)
Country: United States
Posts: 3,367
vCash: 500
Mike Brodeur is one of those "hard to read players"

Goalies take a while to develop, but it still has no merit to why he is playing so much better in the NHL than the AHL.

If he plays well against Montreal then Boston, then I would consider him to be a possible future NHL level(back-up, maybe better) netminder.

He's great at controlling rebounds, and works hard in the crease.

One of the things that I really admire is that he doesn't let in the occasional soft goal. I know you may think that means nothing, but all the time elite goalies let in pucks that they shouldn't have, but just gets away from them.

Mach 9* is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:13 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.