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01-15-2010, 11:15 PM
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If Edmonton doesn't get first overall, I hope Boston does just for the humour of it.
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It would be monumental... I even like Boston - so it's win - win.
I always knew there was a reason I liked Edmonton.

If Toronto err Boston doesn't win the lottery, I'm pulling for you guys. Carolina and Anaheim both won Cups lately.

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01-15-2010, 11:16 PM
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The Oilers have to be the "frontrunner", so to speak.

The 2 main "competitors" are the Canes and the Laffers.

I expect the Leafs to play better, as they have everything to play for. They are not getting a draft pick this year, and they still have a realistic chance of making the playoffs given the weakened state of the Eastern conference.

Carolina I expect will blow by us soon because of one reason. They have the goaltending. Cam Ward is a top 5 goalie in this league, and he'll be the difference, as long as he can stay healthy.

Tambo has said we'll run with the 2 young guys in net for the rest of the year. I expect they'll get a bit better as they obtain more experience, but we'll still lose a whack of games because of them.


The Oil in a landslide. Relax folks, 1st overall is ours.
I agree about CAR and TOR, but I'm worried that a team like CBus might enter the picture.

Also, if the Oilers do finish last I want them to make sure they've got someone in the room monitoring when the ping pong balls are dropped because I don't trust Bettman's integrity for a second.

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01-15-2010, 11:17 PM
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I hope we get 3rd Overall so that we draft Fowler.

Two bad we could't move Visnovsky and Souray to Chicago and Washington and get Cam Barker,John Carlson,Karl Alzner to Edmonton.Then next yr finish last and pick up the number 1 pick and get Adam Larsson.


Fowler-Smid
Larsson-Barker
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Our future defence ^ would be top 3 in the future.

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01-15-2010, 11:19 PM
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Two bad we could't move Visnovsky and Souray to Chicago and Washington and get Cam Barker,John Carlson,Karl Alzner to Edmonton.Then next yr finish last and pick up the number 1 pick and get Adam Larsson.


Fowler-Smid
Larsson-Barker
Carlson-Alzner

Our future defence ^ would be top 3 in the future.

LOL, thats awesome. I do the same trades in NHL 10

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01-15-2010, 11:20 PM
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Two bad we could't move Visnovsky and Souray to Chicago and Washington and get Cam Barker,John Carlson,Karl Alzner to Edmonton.Then next yr finish last and pick up the number 1 pick and get Adam Larsson.


Alzner-Barker
Larsson-Fowler
Carlson-Smid

Our future defence ^ would be top 3 in the future.
Only problem is Chicago doesn't have the need or cap space for Souray or Visnovsky (see Campbell) and why would Washington give up a rising star for a fading star?

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01-15-2010, 11:35 PM
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Kevin Lowe has signed Horcoff to a ridiculous 6 year contract and followed it up with Khabibulin's contract, and could have likely traded for Penner but blew off three draft picks instead/ and handed out dumb contracts like candy on Halloween.

looks lie a sawoff at best.
Burke could have had Kessel for the same price and keep one of his draft picks. But he HAD to offersheet him.

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01-15-2010, 11:37 PM
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I agree about CAR and TOR, but I'm worried that a team like CBus might enter the picture.

Also, if the Oilers do finish last I want them to make sure they've got someone in the room monitoring when the ping pong balls are dropped because I don't trust Bettman's integrity for a second.




Balls? We dont need no stinking balls!

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01-16-2010, 12:01 AM
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Only problem is Chicago doesn't have the need or cap space for Souray or Visnovsky (see Campbell) and why would Washington give up a rising star for a fading star?
I could see something being worked out with Washington for Souray. Maybe something like this:

To Washington: Souray

To Edmonton: Theodore, Carlson, and Fehr.

Then they'd still have the cap space and picks to go after Kovy at the trade deadline which I think they will depending how Ovy and him look at the olympics. If Washington is going to go for it they have to do it before Semin's new contract kicks in.

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01-16-2010, 12:15 AM
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I could see something being worked out with Washington for Souray. Maybe something like this:

To Washington: Souray

To Edmonton: Theodore, Carlson, and Fehr.

Then they'd still have the cap space and picks to go after Kovy at the trade deadline which I think they will depending how Ovy and him look at the olympics. If Washington is going to go for it they have to do it before Semin's new contract kicks in.
Washington will not move Alzner or Carlsson for Souray.
Theodore, Fehr and 2nd/maybe 1st is the most the Oilers can expect.

The smarter thing is to wait until the summer. I think in the off-season, they will be able to get a youngish top 6forward/top 4 d-man and a good prospect (probably not Carlsson level though).

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01-16-2010, 12:23 AM
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I could see something being worked out with Washington for Souray. Maybe something like this:

To Washington: Souray

To Edmonton: Theodore, Carlson, and Fehr.

Then they'd still have the cap space and picks to go after Kovy at the trade deadline which I think they will depending how Ovy and him look at the olympics. If Washington is going to go for it they have to do it before Semin's new contract kicks in.
I think Souray to Washinton makes a lot of sense. I can see him being traded for a package that includes Steckel, Fehr and a 1st or 2nd. Green and Souray on the same PP is too scary.

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01-16-2010, 12:24 AM
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The Oil in a landslide. Relax folks, 1st overall is ours.
There are no landslides in the draft lottery. Even if we manage to "beat" Carolina to the bottom, we'd still be flipping a coin...

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01-16-2010, 12:43 AM
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Burke could have had Kessel for the same price and keep one of his draft picks. But he HAD to offersheet him.
Yes he could.

And?

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01-16-2010, 12:54 AM
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Yes he could.

And?
He could not without making himself into a laughing stock. Signing Kessel to an offer sheet made sense--Boston would not be able to match and it would be totally appropriate. But Burke chose to place the interests of the Leafs' franchise on the altar of personal arrogance...

Well, the Leafs are likely handing Boston a top 3 pick this year (and a high 2nd rounder).
There's nothing about their team that indicates they will be much better next year. Probably another top 5-top 10 pick is on the way to Bs in 2011.

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01-16-2010, 01:00 AM
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He could not without making himself into a laughing stock. Signing Kessel to an offer sheet made sense--Boston would not be able to match and it would be totally appropriate. But Burke chose to place the interests of the Leafs' franchise on the altar of personal arrogance...

Well, the Leafs are likely handing Boston a top 3 pick this year (and a high 2nd rounder).
There's nothing about their team that indicates they will be much better next year. Probably another top 5-top 10 pick is on the way to Bs in 2011.
Okay so the Leafs already have Kessel and the B's have a couple of strong possibilities.

How far do you think the Leafs are behind the 8 ball here?

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Okay so the Leafs already have Kessel and the B's have a couple of strong possibilities.

How far do you think the Leafs are behind the 8 ball here?
Same situation Edmonton is in minus the draft picks

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Same situation Edmonton is in minus the draft picks
Nope.

The Leafs have Kessel and the Oilers don't.

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01-16-2010, 01:08 AM
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Nope.

The Leafs have Kessel and the Oilers don't.
And they are still just as bad as us. So what's your point? Oh thats right, you dont have one.

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Nope.

The Leafs have Kessel and the Oilers don't.
And we have Penner and the Leafs dont't

See what I did there?

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Nope.

The Leafs have Kessel and the Oilers don't.
Yeah, that 26 goal/50 point pace is really blowing the doors off the NHL.

And I mean, how many elite players can get 1 goal in their last 15 games.

Only the best!

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And we have Penner and the Leafs dont't

See what I did there?
Was Penner part of the Kessel transaction?

I guess I missed that.

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Yeah, that 26 goal/50 point pace is really blowing the doors off the NHL.

And I mean, how many elite players can get 1 goal in their last 15 games.

Only the best!
Yeah, it's quite sad actually.

Comparing who is the worst team in the league is really tiresome.

I remember when the Oilers had higher aspirations.

But enjoy yourself.

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Okay so the Leafs already have Kessel and the B's have a couple of strong possibilities.

How far do you think the Leafs are behind the 8 ball here?
The point is the Leafs could have Kessel (whatever one may think of him) AND their 1st in 2011 (which is likely a top 5 pick), if Burke minded the interests of the franchise and not his inflated ego.

The right thing from the franchise perspective was to OS Kessel and give up 1st, 2nd and 3d in 2010.

The Leafs lost the 1st rounder in 2011 because of Burke's being protective of HIS reputation. There is no doubt about it.

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You think Burke is dumber than Lowe?
like him or not burke is still a GM in this league..lowe isn't..

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The point is the Leafs could have Kessel (whatever one may think of him) AND their 1st in 2011 (which is likely a top 5 pick), if Burke minded the interests of the franchise and not his inflated ego.

The right thing from the franchise perspective was to OS Kessel and give up 1st, 2nd and 3d in 2010.

The Leafs lost the 1st rounder in 2011 because of Burke's being protective of HIS reputation. There is no doubt about it.
And the Leafs have Kessel and the Oilers have what?

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And the Leafs have Kessel and the Oilers have what?
A first round pick in 2010 and 2011 and a second round pick in 2010. What's the point? The Oilers also have Penner.

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