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01-15-2010, 01:14 PM
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Max Lapierre: what is to be done?

No points in 18 GAMES nada zero zilch...

I can't see the point of his presence at all anymore. I mean people bash Laraque constantly, but at least he is AVAILABLE for a heavyweight scrap and has some presence on the ice.

I can't think of a more utterly ineffective player on the team. I say delegate him to Hamilton (if that's even still possible), give a hungry young guy a shot, or trade him for a 7th.

What happened to this guy?

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01-15-2010, 01:19 PM
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Erm.. he had a good game last night?

And he's more valuable to the Habs than Laraque, D'Agostini, Pacioretty, Mara and White right now. They won't even think about moving him.

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Max Pacioretty and Matt D'Agostini

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Well... I think he's misused... I mean... Not only does he play on the 4th line but also with guys like Laraque & Bergeron.

What is he supposed to do?

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I liked him with Pleks and Cammy in the third last night. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that line on Saturday (even despite his lack of production...). The only problem is it leaves us short a fourth line center.

But I could see them just rotating it around for the limited shifts Laraque and Bergeron will play. So we'll see.

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Well... I think he's misused... I mean... Not only does he play on the 4th line but also with guys like Laraque & Bergeron.

What is he supposed to do?
Well, how do you want him to be used? He IS a 4th line player. Maybe a 3rd liner, but not the way he's playing this year.

We need to figure out who is the real Max Lapierre? Last season's version..or this season's version?

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01-15-2010, 01:30 PM
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As underlined by Jacques Martin, Lapierre is playing better lately.

Here is what I wrote in CanadaIsHockey’s thread (Positive Outlook ahead - Appreciation):

“…Regarding your 3rd line: SK - Lappy - Patches...

Last season, speedy Lapierre gave us 15 goals, great FO%, plenty of hits and he was solid on the PK. And contrary to most of our forwards, Lapierre is not a smurf! His play improved lately and I think he should be the next “work in project” of Martin. Lapierre is 24 years old and if you give him a specific task and/or increased responsibilities, he will positively respond imo.

35 years old Metropolit sure is a great waiver acquisition and he will remain a key element of the support cast but I just prefer Lapierre’s size and grits. I would keep Moen on 3rd though:

(My 3rd line – healthy line-up): S. Kostitsyn – Lapierre – Moen
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01-15-2010, 01:32 PM
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Trade him for Latendresse

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Last year, Lapierre played with a somewhat productive Latendresse and a very intense Kostopoulos (at least I thought so). He had more time on ice.

It's kinda hard to put up points with Laraque and Bergeron at your side, probably two of the less talented players in the nhl.

Perhaps the system doesn't benefit him either. Regardless, I think he should be moved up to the 3rd line. Metropolit shows signs of slowing down. Lapierre is still fast, works hard and has a pretty decent faceoff %.

We're not talking about Peter Forsberg here. Lapierre remains a third line player at best. He's not gonna put up points without opportunities to do so, and he won't get many of those on his current line.

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As underlined by Jacques Martin, Lapierre is playing better lately.

Here is what I wrote in CanadaIsHockey’s thread (Positive Outlook ahead - Appreciation):

“…Regarding your 3rd line: SK - Lappy - Patches...

Last season, speedy Lapierre gave us 15 goals, great FO%, plenty of hits and he was solid on the PK. And contrary to most of our forwards, Lapierre is not a smurf! His play improved lately and I think he should be the next “work in project” of Martin. Lapierre is 24 years old and if you give him a specific task and/or increased responsibilities, he will positively respond imo.

35 years old Metropolit sure is a great waiver acquisition and he will remain a key element of the support cast but I just prefer Lapierre’s size and grits. I would keep Moen on 3rd though:

(My 3rd line – healthy line-up): S. Kostitsyn – Lapierre – Moen…”
If Lapierre is centering a line aside from the 4th this team takes a step backwards. Useful and wanted as a role player but zero puck distribution skills needed by a centre.

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I've been quite happy with Lapierre's last 4-5 games...he's skating hard and finishing his checks. Its going to be awful hard putting up points playing 8-10 minutes a night with Laraque and Bergeron.

D'Agostini and Pacioretty are the two that need to be removed from our lineup. Patches needs to get his confidence back in the AHL...unfortunately for D'Agostini i'm not sure that there is a future for him in Montreal.

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Let him watch games from the press box... that helped him last year.

The thing is, who will replace him?

His main positive is that he doesn't get hurt.

Not a fan of his... sorry (but I do wish him well)

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If Lapierre is centering a line aside from the 4th this team takes a step backwards. Useful and wanted as a role player but zero puck distribution skills needed by a centre.

I think Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos was one of our most constant/solid lines last season. So, imo, Lapierre can "center" a NHL 3rd line.

It’s true that 24 years old Lapierre somewhat has a tunnel vision but I am willing to sacrifice some of 35 years old Metropolit's “distribution skills” for a lot more size and hits. Metropolit is a great “waiver pick up” but please don’t try selling him to me as an offensive dynamo!

Once everyone is healthy, I would go with:

3. S. Kostitsyn – Lapierre – Moen
4. Pacioretty – Metropolit – (Bergeron/Laraque)

Btw… I like Lapierre AND Metropolit. I just think this team can use more size/hits upfront.

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I think Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos was one of our most constant/solid lines last season. So, imo, Lapierre can "center" a NHL 3rd line.

It’s true that 24 years old Lapierre somewhat has a tunnel vision but I am willing to sacrifice some of 35 years old Metropolit's “distribution skills” for a lot more size and hits. Metropolit is a great “waiver pick up” but please don’t try selling him to me as an offensive dynamo!

Once everyone is healthy, I would go with:

3. S. Kostitsyn – Lapierre – Moen
4. Pacioretty – Metropolit – (Bergeron/Laraque)

Btw… I like Lapierre AND Metropolit. I just think this team can use more size/hits upfront.
Metro is better then Lapierre. He deserves to be centering the 3rd line.

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Put Lappy on the first...to give some energy to our first line

Cammy - Pleks - Lappy
Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta
Pacioretty - Metro - Moen
Bergeron - Pyatt (recalled) - Laraque
*Bench D'Agostini

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Metro is better then Lapierre. He deserves to be centering the 3rd line.

As I already mentioned, I like both Lapierre and Metropolit but I also think this team can use more size/hits upfront. I also think it would be a great plus for this team if Martin finds a way to extract the best from Lapierre.

As Lapierre clearly showed last season (and lately), he can be a factor.

Regarding “… Metro is better then Lapierre…”:

Size: advantage Lapierre
Hits/grits: Lapierre
Distribution (passing) skills : Metropolit
Potential : Lapierre
Experience : Metropolit
Speed : Lapierre
Defensive awareness : tie
Goal scoring ability: slight edge (though Metropolit is on his way to a career year… at age 35!) to Lapierre
Versatility (C/W): tie
Professionalism: slight edge to Metropolit
Smirk (capacity to draw a penalty): Lapierre
(…)

=> it is not as clear cut as you think it is imo.

That being mentioned, and if it makes you feel better:

*3a*. S. Kostitsyn – Lapierre – Moen
*3b*. Pacioretty – Metropolit – (Bergeron/Laraque)

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he's not going anywhere; he;s metro';s cheap replacement on the 3rd next year

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he's not going anywhere; he;s metro';s cheap replacement on the 3rd next year
dont look for many points from that line.

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He looks more lost since his boyfriend was traded.

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He looks more lost since his boyfriend was traded.
I disagree. He was terrible before. His best game of the season was the one immediately following the trade. And he's been decent the last few.

It's just not a banner year for Lappy. I'm not sold on him being more than a fourth liner, but given the injuries right now, and the way others are playing, I'd try him with Pleks and Cammy. Maybe it can get all three going again.

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I thought he was awful last night:

1) Terrible off the boards pass back to the point hung Spacek out to dry, lead to a 2 on 1, on which the Stars scored their first goal.

2) Completely lost on the Modano goal, standing next to Price, Gill, and a Star while his man (in the slot) untouched, scored, all alone.

3) Missed a wide open wing in front of the net when he shot his weak backhand.

I like Max as a 4th line Center, and thought he was doing better recently, but last night.. Meh


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Erm.. he had a good game last night?

And he's more valuable to the Habs than Laraque, D'Agostini, Pacioretty, Mara and White right now. They won't even think about moving him.

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He looks more lost since his boyfriend was traded.
I assume that by “his boyfriend” you mean Latendresse… wow… you can’t be more wrong! Lapierre is playing some of his best 2009-10 hockey lately.

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01-15-2010, 03:52 PM
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Rumors about Talbot being shipped out of Pittsburgh as salay dump, makes me think..

Lapierre & D'Agostini for Talbot

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I thought he was awful last night:

1) Terrible off the boards pass back to the point hung Spacek out to dry, lead to a 2 on 1, on which the Stars scored their first goal.

2) Completely lost on the Modano goal, standing next to Price, Gill, and a Star while his man (in the slot) untouched, scored, all alone.

3) Missed a wide open wing in front of the net when he shot his weak backhand.

I like Max as a 4th line Center, and thought he was doing better recently, but last night.. Meh
yeah he did look lost on the modano goal, but htis is a checker with wheels who scored 15 as a 23 year old last year. he has stunk this year but in his defense, playing several games with laraque and bergeron is not going to help...and then being asked to be a top 6 winger to fill in for all the injuries. he too, has had problems with confidence, role etc this year. not easy for a young guy. remember how good he was for stretches last year

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Rumors about Talbot being shipped out of Pittsburgh as salay dump, makes me think..

Lapierre & D'Agostini for Talbot
You kidding right? Talbot is one of Pittsburgh most popular player and is making 1M, which is less than Lapierre and D'agostini combined.

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