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01-29-2010, 08:59 PM
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Chris Nilan be toughest guy to play for Montreal. So many of the top fighters would be so close on any given night either one could beat the other. Just too close to call
I understand the Love for Nilan and how tough he was, but John Ferguson was the greatest heavyweight to play for the Habs and one if not the best to play in the NHL.

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01-29-2010, 11:28 PM
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Bob Probert

How many guys had 29 goals and 398 PIMs in a season

None

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01-30-2010, 08:35 AM
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Bob Probert

How many guys had 29 goals and 398 PIMs in a season

None
John Ferguson also had 29 goals, but not near the PIMs, probably because everyone was scared ****less of him.

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02-01-2010, 04:57 PM
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The roided up Twist was the greatest fighter of all time. I saw Probert run from him. Todd Ewen was up there too.

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02-01-2010, 06:36 PM
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My vote goes to Tony Twist

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02-01-2010, 08:26 PM
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Dave Brown was my absolute favourite to watch... But I still have Probert over him because he won their only meeting... I am gonna throw Wendel Clark out there... I hate the Leafs but Clark was a beast.

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02-01-2010, 09:31 PM
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Any one of Bob Probert, Dave Brown, and Behn Wilson.
Agree with this. Brown was vicious he'd continue to pound on prone players.
Probie goes without saying, and I feel that the other Bruise Brother Joey Kocur deserves a mention.
Troy Crowder was intimidating and so was Sandy McCarthy. Neely, Tocchet and Clark all held their own. Although Clark wasn't comparable in size to many of these juggernauts.

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02-01-2010, 10:24 PM
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On the subject of Howe, I found this:

Howe had 22 fights in the NHL, according to a 2008 article by Jeff Marek on CBCsports.ca. He twice fought Toronto's Bill Ezinicki, one of the toughest NHL players of all time. He had three fights with Fernie Flaman, a rugged Hall of Fame defenseman. Rocket Richard went half-crazy after a fight with Howe, striking a referee and getting suspended. Howe's most famous fight was a toe-to-toe job with New York's Lou Fontinato, the NHL's toughest player, that left Fontinato's face mangled.

Everyone talks about the Lou Fontinato fight. Is there a link to it anywhere? EVERYONE mentions it being Howe's claim to fame, but has anyone actually seen it?

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02-01-2010, 11:31 PM
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Probert's at the top of my list, but I'd gladly watch Kocur and Twist shed the mitts to decide #2

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Semenko and Probert.

Dave Semenko had a forehead out of caveman legend. I never saw him lose. Gretzky would never have survived early on without him.

Probert was brutal, took no prisoners and a great fighter.

O'Reilly was the best of the 70s.

I don't see anyone today who intimidates like my top three and is a legitimate hockey player anymore.

The best of the Canucks as someone who has seen most of their games would be Gino, Tiger, Brash, Frasor.

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02-02-2010, 03:07 AM
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I understand the Love for Nilan and how tough he was, but John Ferguson was the greatest heavyweight to play for the Habs and one if not the best to play in the NHL.
They say over on the history forum no good fighters back in Ferguson's day. He never really beat anybody good. He beat guys like Keith Magnuson, Ted Irvine or Ted Green. Bu they had highlights of Bobby Hull kicking his butt, etc...

Read the first page of this thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=437823


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02-02-2010, 12:45 PM
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Everyone talks about the Lou Fontinato fight. Is there a link to it anywhere? EVERYONE mentions it being Howe's claim to fame, but has anyone actually seen it?
I watched the game on tv and Howe really rearranged Lou's face, particularly his nose.

The problem with comparing fighters from the earlier eras is the size difference. Howe was big for his era at about 6' - 6'1" and 200 - 210 and Fergie wasn't even that big; Fontinato was probably about 195. Howe was feared and for good reason; he was a good fighter, but, his elbows left more of an impression on a nightly basis than his fists.

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02-02-2010, 03:34 PM
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The roided up Twist was the greatest fighter of all time. I saw Probert run from him. Todd Ewen was up there too.
Tony Twist was the biggest Roids user in the league. He went from 215lbs to 245lbs in no time.

BTW, Bob Probert ran from no one. He had his hands taped in the game you're talking about and couldn't go, but would of loved to.

Bob Probert was the champ for years and the best fighter ever. He lost here and there, but with the amount of tilts he was involved in it was bound to happen from time to time. He usually got his redemption in the rematch.

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02-02-2010, 06:52 PM
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Tony Twist was the biggest Roids user in the league. He went from 215lbs to 245lbs in no time.

BTW, Bob Probert ran from no one. He had his hands taped in the game you're talking about and couldn't go, but would of loved to.

Bob Probert was the champ for years and the best fighter ever. He lost here and there, but with the amount of tilts he was involved in it was bound to happen from time to time. He usually got his redemption in the rematch.
That was the great thing about Probert, He would fight anyone and of course he will lose some, like losing against Domi, and Crowder, but then there was the anticipation for the rematch. I remember the Crowder rematch, took a while but Probert got his revenge, same with Domi.

Twist was a scary monster, but I wouldn't put him in my top 10.

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02-02-2010, 08:12 PM
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Dating myself here. I see a lot of Proberts and Domis..
Going back to the mid 70's to mid 80's, My vote goes to Clark Gillies.
Good player as well.
Gillies was a devastating puncher, took no prisoners. Never looked for a fight but when he was engaged, I never saw him lose.
On more than one occasion he had the other guy looking on the ice for some of his chicklets.

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02-02-2010, 09:32 PM
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The best of the Canucks as someone who has seen most of their games would be Gino, Tiger, Brash, Frasor.
i went to craig coxe's hockey school a couple of years when i was a kid. he wasn't close to the greatest fighter ever, but he's gotta belong on that canucks list. he used to show us tapes of his fights with probert while we had lunch, and even though he didn't win those fights, he was one tough customer to trade punches with probert for as long as he did in those fights.

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02-03-2010, 11:10 AM
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Probert and Coxe
what a battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK3yN...layer_embedded

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02-05-2010, 11:42 PM
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Dave Brown deserves a mention here, IMO. The most vicious fighter I've ever seen.

Dave Brown is the unanimous heavyweight champ of all time.

Hocckeyfights.com has been over it a hundred times.

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02-05-2010, 11:51 PM
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Bob Probert, no question.

However, I also think Aaron Downey was a good fighter, even though his skill as a player/skater limited his ice time.

McCarty wasn't really classed as a heavyweight, but fought hard, and McSorley was also a fighter to behold.
This Aaron Downey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlNzARV0XM


or this Aaron Downey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De5uf...eature=related

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02-06-2010, 12:34 AM
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Tony Twist was the biggest Roids user in the league. He went from 215lbs to 245lbs in no time.

BTW, Bob Probert ran from no one. He had his hands taped in the game you're talking about and couldn't go, but would of loved to.

Bob Probert was the champ for years and the best fighter ever. He lost here and there, but with the amount of tilts he was involved in it was bound to happen from time to time. He usually got his redemption in the rematch.


No doubt Twister was roided up, but either way, he was the baddest fighter ever when he roided up. It got to the point where guys wouldn't even fight him.

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Probert's at the top of my list, but I'd gladly watch Kocur and Twist shed the mitts to decide #2
Even as a Blues fan I say Kocur over Twist.



Quality sucks, but Twist is on the defense the entire fight.

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02-06-2010, 01:54 AM
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My Top 5..

1) Probert
2) Gillies
3) Brown
4) Wilson
5) Fotiu

After that, Kocur, McSorley, Nystrom, Playfair, etc...
good list

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Even as a Blues fan I say Kocur over Twist.



Quality sucks, but Twist is on the defense the entire fight.



That wasn't the roided up Twist. Late in Twist's carreer, nobody could kick his arse. He was the most feared player in the league.

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Pure fighter
Bob Probert
Hardest Punch
Kocur

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Greatest Heavyweight ever hands down...Bob Probert! <--And he did at a time when every team had not 1 but maybe 2 or 3 guys that played that role for each team.

Probert did have it all, strong as an ox, reputation, punching power, stamina, balance, and a vicious temper. He was he total package, and never in his career could I really remember saying he didn't do his job. The guy stood the test of time. Never ducked anyone, especially the up and comers that alot of vets think they are too good for. Almost always avenged his losses. Excellent fight card through the years.

Wish the NHL of today could take a page out of that book. The matchups were great and they made the rivalries that much better. Indimidation actually factored into the game, whereas today these guys can't even so much as look the in the wrong direction w/out getting sent to the box.

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