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01-19-2010, 04:16 PM
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Who then is going to be the 1st line centerman.I'll tell ya right now that it will not be Horcoff.
Good question, Gagner's not ready though.

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funny how this all happens a day after possibly there worst PPV broadcast as far as purchases go?

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for those tossing Jagr's name out==how do the oilers afford him?

he would ask for about 5mill to 6mill to come back

where do the oilers get that money from

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[QUOTE=raab;23288994]Who said anything about inflated contracts? The young guys are going to need someone to help them adjust to the pro game. Who better then arguably the greatest European of all time? If Jagr is willing to sign here for between 3 or 4 mil a season for two seasons you have to do it.[/QUOTE]


Ya, if you're drunk or retarded. We can't give away contracts of our aging vets as it is, we're over the cap if everyone is healthy, we have more contracts to worry about this summer with Gagner, Cogs etc coming to the table for more dough, but hell yes, let's bring in another multi year contract for an over the hill guy.

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for those tossing Jagr's name out==how do the oilers afford him?

he would ask for about 5mill to 6mill to come back

where do the oilers get that money from
I see no point in getting him at this time. Not to mention Stauffer may literally be throwing this out (rather than this trial balloon stuff) just to have something different to talk about. As we know and the posts in minutes in this thread show. It will get people talking.

But I am curious are you in contact with his agent? Otherwise you have no clue what he would be asking for. After being out of the league this long, I am not sure how many teams will be (or even are in a position to be) lining up to throw 6 million at the guy.


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I hope you do, I miss when the Oilers were competitive.

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for those tossing Jagr's name out==how do the oilers afford him?

he would ask for about 5mill to 6mill to come back

where do the oilers get that money from
not sure if it will be that much.
Jagr during an interview said, or I guess joked that he was interested in playing with Hemsky, but might end up on a 3rd line by the time he gets a chance.

he does get 6mil right now in the KHL, so maybe next year, he will come over for 4-5.
either way, I figure that would be a good signing for 1 or 2 years max. Hell, edmonton fan are always crying for a star player, and no matter who we get no one is happy, and he is one of the best if not the best european player of all time currently.

who thinks him and hemsky won't make a good duo?

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I hear Igor Larionov still plays hockey. Let's bring him too.
Yea cause there's a tonne of 49 y/o's in the league. Jagr's 38 and still has hockey left in him. Next time you think before you post (i.e bring valid arguments)

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Jagr would make sense for one year if you can get it without a NTC. When we miss the playoffs next season we can trade him to a contender for some futures to help the rebuild.

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Who said anything about inflated contracts? The young guys are going to need someone to help them adjust to the pro game. Who better then arguably the greatest European of all time? If Jagr is willing to sign here for between 3 or 4 mil a season for two seasons you have to do it.
What for? Jagr is a notorious floater who has had attitude issues in the past (ie he plays hard when he feels like it). He is the last guy we want mentoring our youngsters. It serves no purpose.

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not sure if it will be that much.
Jagr during an interview said, or I guess joked that he was interested in playing with Hemsky, but might end up on a 3rd line by the time he gets a chance.

he does get 6mil right now in the KHL, so maybe next year, he will come over for 4-5.
either way, I figure that would be a good signing for 1 or 2 years max. Hell, edmonton fan are always crying for a star player, and no matter who we get no one is happy, and he is one of the best if not the best european player of all time currently.

who thinks him and hemsky won't make a good duo?
It would make a good duo, but how do we afford him and to what end? I mean, we aren't going to be challenging for the Cup or even the playoffs for two years, so why spend $5 million on a superstar past his expiration date?

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Hello missing the playoffs for another 7 years.

Amazing how many people think "youth" is the answer to our woes
Well, if we got a few new decent vets we couldn't really be any wrose.

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What for? Jagr is a notorious floater who has had attitude issues in the past (ie he plays hard when he feels like it). He is the last guy we want mentoring our youngsters. It serves no purpose.
Because you can't just put a team of kids on the ice they'll get killed. It's been proven in Springfield. Having two of our top young players learn from one of the greatest on how to play the game would be very beneficial. Remember that Talent breeds Talent.

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not sure if it will be that much.
Jagr during an interview said, or I guess joked that he was interested in playing with Hemsky, but might end up on a 3rd line by the time he gets a chance.

he does get 6mil right now in the KHL, so maybe next year, he will come over for 4-5.
either way, I figure that would be a good signing for 1 or 2 years max. Hell, edmonton fan are always crying for a star player, and no matter who we get no one is happy, and he is one of the best if not the best european player of all time currently.

who thinks him and hemsky won't make a good duo?

Again, where do you intend to find the cap room from?

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As others have said, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Because you can't just put a team of kids on the ice they'll get killed. It's been proven in Springfield. Having two of our top young players learn from one of the greatest on how to play the game would be very beneficial. Remember that Talent breeds Talent.

There were no ex-superstar vets on the Oilers when Gretzky, Messier, Kurri et al came along. Who "taught" them how to be talented?

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It would make a good duo, but how do we afford him and to what end? I mean, we aren't going to be challenging for the Cup or even the playoffs for two years, so why spend $5 million on a superstar past his expiration date?
well for one, i don't think he's passed his expiration date.
he can still play at a PPG level.

and I didn't say it would make sense for the oilers, I pesonaly just want to see Jagr in an Oiler jersey playing with Hemsky. and hell, its been a ****** 8 years anyway, whats 1 more by now. like you said, not like we're challenging for the Cup next year. or even the playoffs for that matter.
and we can afford him next year. when all the useless bags of flesh get traded/bought out/put into the minors/not resigned.

I'd give him 5 mil for 1 year just to see it.
See if he can teach the young players anything.
and before people start saying "he can teach them to be lazy" .. ha ha ha.
you guys sure know hockey, why don't you teach them something?

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As others have said, I'll believe it when I see it.
I don't see why there would be any reason to doubt it. The only thing I can see stopping them is the possible lack of interest from other teams.

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well for one, i don't think he's passed his expiration date.
he can still play at a PPG level.

and I didn't say it would make sense for the oilers, I pesonaly just want to see Jagr in an Oiler jersey playing with Hemsky. and hell, its been a ****** 8 years anyway, whats 1 more by now. like you said, not like we're challenging for the Cup next year. or even the playoffs for that matter.
and we can afford him next year. when all the useless bags of flesh get traded/bought out/put into the minors/not resigned.

I'd give him 5 mil for 1 year just to see it.
See if he can teach the young players anything.
and before people start saying "he can teach them to be lazy" .. ha ha ha.
you guys sure know hockey, why don't you teach them something?

I doesn't make sense on any level, other than your fantasy league. You still haven't addressed where the cap room comes from.

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Because you can't just put a team of kids on the ice they'll get killed. It's been proven in Springfield. Having two of our top young players learn from one of the greatest on how to play the game would be very beneficial. Remember that Talent breeds Talent.
Tell that to Colorado. Or Chicago. If you want vets then you get value vets, like Betts, etc... You dont go and blow five million+ on a player that hasnt even played in the league for years when you are in the middle of a rebuild. Talent is something that you either have or dont have. Talent does not breed talent.

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Tell that to Colorado. Or Chicago. If you want vets then you get value vets, like Betts, etc... You dont go and blow five million+ on a player that hasnt even played in the league for years when you are in the middle of a rebuild. Talent is something that you either have or dont have. Talent does not breed talent.
X2. We need those role player vets that can acutally contribute.

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I don't see why there would be any reason to doubt it. The only thing I can see stopping them is the possible lack of interest from other teams.
why will we believe it when we see it

see my earlier post about us and rocket science

math and logic dictates that tambo can say as much as he likes--but until something happens--it is all talk

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The thing that gets me most excited is the part about burying contracts in the minors. Could this mean Horcoff?

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why will we believe it when we see it

see my earlier post about us and rocket science

math and logic dictates that tambo can say as much as he likes--but until something happens--it is all talk
I didn't see a quote in the article from Tambellini. Is there a quote somewhere where he says basically the same thing?

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There were no ex-superstar vets on the Oilers when Gretzky, Messier, Kurri et al came along. Who "taught" them how to be talented?
Note: he didn't say "superstars to teach them to be talented". As for vets, the '80s Oilers had a few (Jaroslav Pouzar, Pat Hughes, Randy Gregg, Lee Fogolin, Dave Lumley for example). Of course it also helps when you have a handful of generational talents including the G.O.A.T.

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