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1/20/10 What are your thoughts on the Cormier hit?

View Poll Results: What are your thoughts on the Cormier hit?
There is no need for that kind of hit in hockey, at any level 82 89.13%
It wasn't intended to have that kind of an outcome 4 4.35%
adrenalin was a bad thing here 3 3.26%
I still haven't seen it 1 1.09%
other, please explain 2 2.17%
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01-20-2010, 09:16 AM
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1/20/10 What are your thoughts on the Cormier hit?

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01-20-2010, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for daily news stuffs BB.

And yeah, Cormier is a dirty SOB. Should get the same punishment as Lambias dude...maybe more since he just got on the ice.

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I like having the daily poll with the news and blog reports.

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Quinn punishes Oilers for poor effort
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Thanks for daily news stuffs BB.

And yeah, Cormier is a dirty SOB. Should get the same punishment as Lambias dude...maybe more since he just got on the ice.
You're welcome!

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Me too, I like that no one seems to mind when it isn't always Oilers related I do tend to stick to hockey topics at least.

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There's only one thing in the universe more miserable than Edmonton Oilers fans . . .
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I've definitely lightened my stance on legal charges. But I am all for removing this JA from hockey at any level.

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He should be suspended and his suspension should be honored by the NHL and minor leagues in NA.

The leagues should then look to see if these types of hits are increasing year to year. If they are then find out why. Find out if its the players or equipment and start to see if you can curtail the damage done when(because it will happen again the game is too fast and reactionary hits do occur)does happen.

We were talking at the rink yesterday at a Bantam game(parents mostly) about that hit and one of dads brought out an elbow pad

http://eastonhockey.com/s7-elbow-pads.html

I have to say that the ones I used when I played where no comparison. These things were really light but extremely rock solid. I can only imagine the impact of being hit in the face with one these as a human elbow would be bad enough.

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I would put the underachieving Flames up there too. Or are they underachieving?

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He should be suspended and his suspension should be honored by the NHL and minor leagues in NA.

The leagues should then look to see if these types of hits are increasing year to year. If they are then find out why. Find out if its the players or equipment and start to see if you can curtail the damage done when(because it will happen again the game is too fast and reactionary hits do occur)does happen.

We were talking at the rink yesterday at a Bantam game(parents mostly) about that hit and one of dads brought out an elbow pad

http://eastonhockey.com/s7-elbow-pads.html

I have to say that the ones I used when I played where no comparison. These things were really light but extremely rock solid. I can only imagine the impact of being hit in the face with one these as a human elbow would be bad enough.
I can only imagine how easy it would be to deliver a hit and not lead with my elbow. Game is fast and reactionary stuff happens, but this was anything but reactionary. He never once even had the guy lined up for a legal hit.

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The thing about this one was that at no time did Cormier actually try to bodycheck him. He went straight with the elbow. I imagine he's got a big plastic cap that sticks out three inches specifically so he can run around like that with his elbows up too.

Garbage play that has no place in the sport. I honestly don't know why refs hold the other team back after plays like that.

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I can only imagine how easy it would be to deliver a hit and not lead with my elbow. Game is fast and reactionary stuff happens, but this was anything but reactionary. He never once even had the guy lined up for a legal hit.
I wasn't refering to the Cormier hit as reactionary but future incidents that are reactionary such as you are about to be hit and you throw your arms up to protect yourself and you elbow someone in the face. That kind of reactionary stuff happens alot during a game

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I said other. I mainly think that it shouldn't be apart of hockey, but adrenalin is something that I never thought about that would cause part of this. Either way it was stupid.

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I wasn't refering to the Cormier hit as reactionary but future incidents that are reactionary such as you are about to be hit and you throw your arms up to protect yourself and you elbow someone in the face. That kind of reactionary stuff happens alot during a game
Throwing up your arms to protect yourself is a perfectly legitimate practice if you're getting run. Especially if the player is dirty enough to lead with his helmet. Little guys used to do this all the time to try and "hit" bigger players.

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Throwing up your arms to protect yourself is a perfectly legitimate practice if you're getting run. Especially if the player is dirty enough to lead with his helmet. Little guys used to do this all the time to try and "hit" bigger players.
It can still lead to elbows being thrown. I know a few guys that lost some chicklets from exactly this

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It can still lead to elbows being thrown. I know a few guys that lost some chicklets from exactly this
Ya loose some chicklets and get some bruising. But I have never seen someone convulsing on the ice because they were on the wrong side of a reactionary play.

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I can't even comprehend his intentions there, it's such a blatantly dirty play that I have to question the kids mental stability. At the very least he shouldn't play hockey for the remainder of the season, and should have mandatory psychological evaluation/counseling. This kind of play has no place in any sport and can't be taken too seriously.

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It can still lead to elbows being thrown. I know a few guys that lost some chicklets from exactly this
I imagine they would. That's why you don't lead with your face or run people indiscriminately. Very rarely does this happen on a legit, game-based check.

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If it was a shoulder to the head, I would have said, meh, that happens, although head shots like that are pretty brutal anyway..why not hit the guy in the shoulder or body..but can't hang the kid if it had not have been such a blatant elbow. He had his elbow out and raised before the hit..wasen't a last second reaction...His history (WJC game against sweeden) will play against him here. I say suspend him for the year.

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I'd like to see a little creativity in handing down punishments. In addition to taking games away in terms of the suspension, I'd like to see commissioners of the leagues start to send these kids to some sort of education seminar so that they can understand exactly the impact of their actions.

I know there are studies at Harvard University and Boston University where athletes are donating their brains to science and they're studying the ill effects of concussions. I'd like these kids that are guilty of head shots to go and find out the true impact of what they're doing to somebody else and try to give them a better understanding, and not just take games away from them.
I agree with this. I don't think Cormier should be banned from hockey for life, because maybe this still falls under "really, really bad judgement call". But this certainly has to be his absolute last chance to change. I hope he does.

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Ya loose some chicklets and get some bruising. But I have never seen someone convulsing on the ice because they were on the wrong side of a reactionary play.
I guess you need to figure out what reactionary is. Scott Stevens leveling Paul kariya and leaving him unconcious on the ice? Reactionary or not. How about Lindros destroying Dackell? Or Hatcher breaking Roenicks Jaw? All vicious hits. Are they all just premeditated acts then or are the reactions to the play that is occuring on the ice?

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