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RW Evgeny Kuznetsov (2010, 26th overall, Washington)

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10-31-2011, 04:23 PM
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10-31-2011, 08:16 PM
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Kuznetsov is the best young Russian player since Malkin. I don't think Tarasenko is on the same level.

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10-31-2011, 08:58 PM
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Kuznetsov is the best young Russian player since Malkin. I don't think Tarasenko is on the same level.
ahh, debateable they are close.

Both bring different aspects.

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if we redo the draft, where he sould go?

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10-31-2011, 09:54 PM
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Kuznetsov is the best young Russian player since Malkin. I don't think Tarasenko is on the same level.
Where does/will Yakupov compare to these two? Please don't answer West.

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Where does/will Yakupov compare to these two? Please don't answer West.
Believe hes referring to players who stayed in Russia.

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I recognize that, I'm just hoping to get a gauge for my keeper league, with none of them having been in the NHL yet.

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Kuznetsov is the best young Russian player since Malkin. I don't think Tarasenko is on the same level.
I respect your opinion, as you probably watch them more that I do. Why are they on different levels?

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10-31-2011, 10:45 PM
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It wasn't a knock on Tarasenko, fine and talented player, it is just the obvious to me fact that as of now Kuznetsov is a more versatile player.

Oh, and I can't compare Yakupov to the two, I just haven't seen a lot of him.

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lol Some dude waiving a chair around at :19
HAHAHA! Thanks for posting. I love the passion the fans display. Is this typical atmosphere for a KHL game? Seem like a great time.

PS Oh, yeah, Kuznetsov is an absolute gem.

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11-01-2011, 04:19 PM
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Kuznetsov is the best young Russian player since Malkin. I don't think Tarasenko is on the same level.
Yes, the player that's the same age, with the same point totals is clearly on a level below

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11-01-2011, 09:24 PM
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Kuznetsov is the best young Russian player since Malkin. I don't think Tarasenko is on the same level.
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11-02-2011, 03:36 AM
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Kuznetsov's game style is just flashier, same with his personality. If you've watched both of them play, Kuznetsov sticks out a more during games. But point-wise they're very close.

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11-02-2011, 06:09 AM
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HAHAHA! Thanks for posting. I love the passion the fans display. Is this typical atmosphere for a KHL game? Seem like a great time.

PS Oh, yeah, Kuznetsov is an absolute gem.
Lol, well, not at any game guys waive chairs, but generally speaking, yes, the atmosphere in Europe is like that.

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11-02-2011, 06:37 AM
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Yes, the player that's the same age, with the same point totals is clearly on a level below
Tarasenko 21 points (10+11) in 19 games, toi 18.13
Kuznetsov 15 points (10+5) in 19 games, toi 17.36

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11-02-2011, 10:42 AM
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Tarasenko 21 points (10+11) in 19 games, toi 18.13
Kuznetsov 15 points (10+5) in 19 games, toi 17.36
It's important to note that Kuznetsov underwent shoulder surgery in the offseason and spoke about needing time to work himself into shape immediately before the season started.

Going back to last season when fully healthy, Kuznetsov outproduced Tarasenko by a decent margin in the same league (although I'm sure there were multiple variables even then that make a direct point comparison at least somewhat less authoritative than people tend to make them out to be), and of course SOME argue that Kuznetsov had the more impactful WJC.

Really, when comparing the two it likely comes down to one's predilection as many posters have stated innumerable times in this thread. Kuznetsov plays the flashier game and I think shows a little more dynamic skill than Tarasenko, but Tarasenko is obviously more in the mold of the modern goal scoring power-forward that people tend to like (myself included).

Both are great prospects, and I really hope that both make their way over sometime soon.

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11-02-2011, 12:24 PM
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It's important to note that Kuznetsov underwent shoulder surgery in the offseason and spoke about needing time to work himself into shape immediately before the season started.

Going back to last season when fully healthy, Kuznetsov outproduced Tarasenko by a decent margin in the same league (although I'm sure there were multiple variables even then that make a direct point comparison at least somewhat less authoritative than people tend to make them out to be), and of course SOME argue that Kuznetsov had the more impactful WJC.
It's important to note that Sibir is a classic one line team. So its opponents perfectly know that if they shut Trasenko-Lehtera-Enlund down they will be as good as winners. While Tractor has much more balanced roster. It obviously gives Kuznetsov better chances to score...

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11-02-2011, 02:48 PM
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Lol, well, not at any game guys waive chairs, but generally speaking, yes, the atmosphere in Europe is like that.
Awesome. Sadly you guys have us beat for in-arena atmosphere by a mile.

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Awesome. Sadly you guys have us beat for in-arena atmosphere by a mile.
Except in Moscow, hockey is almost dead

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Except in Moscow, hockey is almost dead
YIKES! Why is that? I always thought it was the hockey capital of Russia.

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He means in Moscow, Football (soccer) is most popular.

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11-08-2011, 09:59 AM
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looks like Kuznetsov made up his mind where he will play in near future...except he won't tell anyone...not to spoil the surprise...
http://www.sports.ru/hockey/130863784.html (use google to translate)

considering the praise he got from the coach of the national team, and Olympic (Sochy) games not that far away...I honestly think he is not coming to Washington in the next few years...

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11-08-2011, 10:27 AM
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I honestly think he is not coming to Washington in the next few years...
i think its not like he cant say visa verca in next month

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i think its not like he cant say visa verca in next month
true...for all we know he might decide to become an astronaut and fly to the moon in the next few months...
all I'm saying...he was praised by national team coach as very talented player and future of Russian hockey...coach of the national team said that majority at the Olympics will be from KHL...also Kyznetsov on numerous occasions have said that he will not play in NA junior league (can Washington guarantee him spot on the main roster?)...

but you are right...he can change his mind any time he wants...
I could be wrong, maybe he decided to move to NA...forever and thats the big surprise for everyone...time will tell...

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11-08-2011, 11:16 AM
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looks like Kuznetsov made up his mind where he will play in near future...except he won't tell anyone...not to spoil the surprise...
http://www.sports.ru/hockey/130863784.html (use google to translate)

considering the praise he got from the coach of the national team, and Olympic (Sochy) games not that far away...I honestly think he is not coming to Washington in the next few years...
Nothing in that article (at least from the translation) really suggests that he'll stay in Russia for a significant period of time. And considering the comments he's made in this and other interviews, it seems the NHL is his clear goal.
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– You decided to stay in Chelyabinsk for a further year, even if you could move overseas. Why?
– It was a hard situation. I decided to go, but then everything changed. So I promised coach Belousov and the Chelyabinsk Region government that I would stay for another year. Thanks to them I got a lot of attention. They gifted me a flat after the WJC, I simply had to stay. But anyway, if we realistically consider the situation, it’s too early for me to go there. I want to go to the once I will be ready to be a main team player. Playing 2-3 years in the AHL is not for me.

– So for now you get acquainted with the NHL with the Playstation.
– Yes, when I play, my hands even tremble. I want to go there as fast as possible.

– What team do you play with?
– Washington. I get all the Russians, the young ones as well, and I play. I created myself and I play on a line with Ovechkin.

– And who scores more?
– Me, of course (laughs). But only virtually.

– Capitals’ fans can’t wait for you to come.
– Well, in a year. I don’t know if I’ll play with the Caps from the very start, but I plan to play there already the next season. Ovechkin told me that he will be helping me with the flat. I will live a couple of months at his place, then I’ll get my flat. I already surfed the internet to search the prices.

– Are they much expansive than in Chelyabinsk?
– Yes, they are, but there is no sense in buying. It’s better to rent. The important is that it should be near to the practice arena. My agent will help me with the car. There won’t be problems. They told me: “Just come, and we’ll set everything.”
Especially when speaking to Russian media outlets, he's not going to bash the KHL. That could be a big part of him being coy about whether he will hop the Ocean next year and praising the KHL. Is it guaranteed he comes over next year (or at all)? No, of course not. But the odds are seemingly significant he could.

Can the Capitals guarantee him a roster spot? Maybe. Would they? Probably not, but his play is at the level where he should be able to make the team (especially if Semin and/or Knuble are not retained). He could very well sign a contract with an "out clause" that allowed him to return to Russia if he's in the AHL.
That being said, there's virtually no chance he spends 2-3 years int he AHL.

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