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RW Evgeny Kuznetsov (2010, 26th overall, Washington)

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02-17-2014, 02:46 PM
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02-17-2014, 02:48 PM
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So he's coming over now or next season?

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Ooooh boy. This is big this is big this is big.

Excited to see him in the NHL.

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02-17-2014, 03:35 PM
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Think he'll get an opportunity on the first line next year if he is playing the wing? I read he is awful on face offs, not that you can't play centre because of that.

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He needs to finish the KHL season first right? Also, if he joins the team after TDL can he play in the playoffs?

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02-17-2014, 04:03 PM
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He needs to finish the KHL season first right? Also, if he joins the team after TDL can he play in the playoffs?
I don't think deadline restrictions apply to players who participated in leagues other than the NHL or AHL. Players from juniors, NCAA, Euro leagues should all be eligible to participate in the playoffs whenever.

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02-17-2014, 04:04 PM
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For everyone hoping Evgeny Kuznetsov would be in Washington as soon as the Olympics ended he wont. Traktor has 4 games left and might make the playoffs as the 8th seed.

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks...et/#more-62054

Whoops Apparently hes moving to a new place in Chelyabinsk.

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02-17-2014, 04:20 PM
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When Alex Radulov returned to Nashville in 2012, the Predators needed to wait for his KHL season to conclude first. I think the situation would be exactly the same in this instance. Unless there's something different about this case, I don't think we should expect the procedure to be any different from what we saw last time.

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03-02-2014, 07:26 PM
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EVGENY KUZNETSOV / Top 5 in 2014 draft

Where would Kuznetsov be rated if he was in this years draft and Is Kuznetsov better then anyone in the top 5 in the 2014 draft ?what do you think him and the top 5 will AVG Per season.

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03-02-2014, 07:34 PM
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Where would Kuznetsov be rated if he was in this years draft and Is Kuznetsov better then anyone in the top 5 in the 2014 draft ?what do you think him and the top 5 will AVG Per season.
He's 4 years older than the guys in this draft.

I'd rather compare him to the guys in his own draft. He's not top 5 in that draft class: Hall, Seguin, Johansen, Fowler, Skinner are all easily better and an argument can certainly be made for Granlund, Nino, Scwartz, Bjugstad, and (with the way he has been lately) Gubrandson.

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He's 4 years older than the guys in this draft.

I'd rather compare him to the guys in his own draft. He's not top 5 in that draft class: Hall, Seguin, Johansen, Fowler, Skinner are all easily better and an argument can certainly be made for Granlund, Nino, Scwartz, Bjugstad, and (with the way he has been lately) Gubrandson.
Maybe you should let Kuznetsov play a few games before killing him.

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03-02-2014, 07:42 PM
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Maybe you should let Kuznetsov play a few games before killing him.
Maybe he shouldn't wait 4 years to come over.

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03-02-2014, 08:05 PM
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He's 4 years older than the guys in this draft.

I'd rather compare him to the guys in his own draft. He's not top 5 in that draft class: Hall, Seguin, Johansen, Fowler, Skinner are all easily better and an argument can certainly be made for Granlund, Nino, Scwartz, Bjugstad, and (with the way he has been lately) Gubrandson.
how about the top 5 fast forward 4 years how does he compare to them .

if he was in this draft where would he be slotted ?

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03-02-2014, 08:10 PM
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He's 4 years older than the guys in this draft.

I'd rather compare him to the guys in his own draft. He's not top 5 in that draft class: Hall, Seguin, Johansen, Fowler, Skinner are all easily better and an argument can certainly be made for Granlund, Nino, Scwartz, Bjugstad, and (with the way he has been lately) Gubrandson.
How many of those were available @ 26 again?

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03-02-2014, 08:21 PM
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How many of those were available @ 26 again?
Why does that matter?

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Maybe you should let Kuznetsov play a few games before killing him.
LOL how am I killing him. He was taken at 26 and I'm saying he's somewhere from 6-12 now. Wow, that is super harsh.

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how about the top 5 fast forward 4 years how does he compare to them .

if he was in this draft where would he be slotted ?
Depends... is he 18 but we KNOW he's coming over in 4 years or is he 18 and we have no idea whether or not he'll ever play in NA. Just going on sheer talent? I personally haven't seen a lot of guys from this year's draft class year.

I'd say there's a chance he goes after Reinhart, Ekblad, Bennett and Dal Colle.... so there's a shot at #5. But again, if we factor in the uncertainty there was back when he was drafted, I'd say somewhere around 15 or so would make more sense.

But I guess I just don't get the point about asking how a 22 year old compares to 18 year olds. seems like an odd comparison.

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How many of those were available @ 26 again?
Wait, so a post asks about comparing him to the top 5 from 4 years later, and you have no problem with that, but comparing him to the top 5 when he was drafted is not ok?

I'm confused by your reasoning.

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Maybe he shouldn't wait 4 years to come over.
4 years of development is pretty standard for a prospect...after being drafted most spend 2 more years in junior and roughly 2 years in the AHL...Kuz has spent 4 years in the KHL (which is a notch above the AHL) and is coming over NHL ready...not sure I understand why it's an issue?

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Maybe he shouldn't wait 4 years to come over.
thats up to him. doesnt make him lessor of a player.

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03-02-2014, 08:37 PM
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Kuznetzov KHL team Traktor is now one point behind Admiral for the last playoff spot. The teams have one game left that they play on Tuesday.

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Maybe he shouldn't wait 4 years to come over.
Same age Teemu Selanne came to the NHL.

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4 years of development is pretty standard for a prospect...after being drafted most spend 2 more years in junior and roughly 2 years in the AHL...Kuz has spent 4 years in the KHL (which is a notch above the AHL) and is coming over NHL ready...not sure I understand why it's an issue?
I agree completely. Euros should take advantage of the technical training they will get over there and come here when they are mature to learn the systemic side of the game. Staying in the KHL was probably the best thing he did. Tarasenko took the same path and I don't think anyone would argue that coming to NA any earlier would have did him any benefit.

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His team lost an important game yesterday. Tomorrow its do or die in the last game of the season against powerhouse Kazan. If Admiral beats last place team Amur tomorrow, Kuznetsov will be on a plane to DC.

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His team lost an important game yesterday. Tomorrow its do or die in the last game of the season against powerhouse Kazan. If Admiral beats last place team Amur tomorrow, Kuznetsov will be on a plane to DC.
As a non-Caps fan I still would love to see him play in the NHL this season to see what he can do.

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