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01-20-2010, 07:42 PM
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Whose fire sale is the league shopping at?

Per Darren Dreger's twitter:

"Available Canes...Whitney, Cullen, Walker, Yelle, Alberts, Wallin, Ward, Legace..."

If the Oilers list includes the likes of:

Souray, Moreau, Staios, Pisani, Nilsson, O'Sullivan, Cogliano...

Whose list do you think will see more action before the deadline? Would you trade the block of Canes available for the block of Oilers available?

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01-20-2010, 07:44 PM
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Per Darren Dreger's twitter:

"Available Canes...Whitney, Cullen, Walker, Yelle, Alberts, Wallin, Ward, Legace..."

If the Oilers list includes the likes of:

Souray, Moreau, Staios, Pisani, Nilsson, O'Sullivan, Cogliano...

Whose list do you think will see more action before the deadline? Would you trade the block of Canes available for the block of Oilers available?
I assume thats Aaron Ward right?

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01-20-2010, 07:55 PM
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Whitney is still an effective player.

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01-20-2010, 07:56 PM
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Seems like the Oilers have more to offer overall. Of course, I would think Whitney would get a lot of interest and maybe Cullen, but after that - there's not much from the Canes I think anyone would be shopping for.

Of course, I'm basing that purely on my opinion of their talent....so I'm not taking into account any of their salaries, which obviously would be hugely important to most GM's out there.

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01-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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Per Darren Dreger's twitter:

"Available Canes...Whitney, Cullen, Walker, Yelle, Alberts, Wallin, Ward, Legace..."

If the Oilers list includes the likes of:

Souray, Moreau, Staios, Pisani, Nilsson, O'Sullivan, Cogliano...

Whose list do you think will see more action before the deadline? Would you trade the block of Canes available for the block of Oilers available?
Whitney, Cullen, Walker, Yelle, Wallin, Alberts will command interest, as they are all pending UFAs. Canes probably won't get much in return, but they can ship out a lot of guys for picks and prospects if they choose to do so.

I don't see the Oilers being able to move more than 1-2 guys (Pisani and Moreau maybe).

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01-20-2010, 08:03 PM
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Canes

contracts are not as bad

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If we kind find homes for Souray, Moreau and one of Pisani or Staios, I would dance in the streets.

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Canes

contracts are not as bad
Exactly. And that's just sad....

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01-20-2010, 08:09 PM
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Definitely Carolina because of the cheaper contracts, not to mention most of those guys have won Stanley Cups and have the bigger, more valuable post-season experience.

The fact that it so blatantly looks like several players on the Oilers are playing to get traded off the team should infact reduce their value, rather than increase the chances of it happening. Double sad situation for the Oil.

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Getting something for Pisani would be nice but seeing as he's UFA I don't really care.

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Whitney is too old and has lost a step.
Cullen has proven quite ineffective on both NYR and Carolina
Walker is decent for a 3rd line forward.
Yelle is decent for a 4th line forward.
Ward's cap hit is way too big.
Legace is too old... but might be acceptable for a backup... dono.

Souray, Moreau, Staios, Pisani, Nilsson, O'Sullivan, Cogliano...

Souray is decent 1st pairing with the right partner. Great 2nd pairing.
Moreau has grit but sucks here because he shouldn't be put in a role where he's expected to give leadership.
Staio's cap hit is too big.
Pisani is a decent 3rd line forward.
Nilson as we all know has potential but doesn't use it very often.
O'Sullivan is snakebitten.
Cogliano is very good 3rd line forward.

I'd give it to Edmonton, but it's close.

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01-20-2010, 09:15 PM
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Who wants to take O'Sullivan (2.925 hit next year), Nilsson, Moreau (2M each next year), Staios (2.7M next year) or Souray (5.4M two more years)???? And when you factor the seasons they are having I think they're mostly unmovable.

Pisani I can definitely see moving to a contender.
Cogliano I can't see moving because he is a piece for the future, not a player that will make a big impact on a Stanely Cup run. If he goes I imagine it would happen in the off-season.

Whitney is a big piece for Carolina to move and I think Cullen would also attract some serious interest. Beyond that if a team needs a grinder or filler for the 3rd/4th line they're not going to take on a contract to add that which makes all of Carolina's other pieces much more valuable.

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01-21-2010, 02:46 AM
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Canes

contracts are not as bad
Canucks fan, and I agree.

The fact that the Oilers have as many votes as they do in the poll is pure homerism. Not that the Oilers have nothing worth trading for, but some of those names on the list arent very apprealling (Staios, Nilsson, Moreau and Pisani to be precise), and the names that are appealling I'm almost certain arent available. And like you said, bad contracts don't exactly bring in the best bids.

I'm not trolling either. Edmonton has been one of my more despised teams for a while now. I loved the intensity and spirit our teams would show everytime we faced eachother these past few years, but with Edmonton in the situation they're currently in, I find it really hard to hate the team.

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If he can stay healthy Pisani is a solid pickup for any team looking to make a playoff run. That said, I can't see why the Oilers would trade him unless they can get a solid draft pick or something. He's UFA this summer. Nilsson has played very well over the past month.

Being civil with a Canucks fan pisses me off. Bleh.

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If he can stay healthy Pisani is a solid pickup for any team looking to make a playoff run. That said, I can't see why the Oilers would trade him unless they can get a solid draft pick or something. He's UFA this summer. Nilsson has played very well over the past month.

Being civil with a Canucks fan pisses me off. Bleh.
yuh.

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Which would make him relatively easy to trade one would think, yeah. My point is, he's gone either way.

There's going to be a Thanks Fernando thread this June no matter what.

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Can't imagine how Pisani wouldn't entice someone. Although he has struggled with health problems he was as clutch as you can get in the playoffs.

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I'd rather keep O'Sullivan, thanks.

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01-21-2010, 09:23 AM
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I said the Canes, but it really depends what the borderline teams with cap space end up doing. Some might want a Nilsson or O'Sullivan for next year as well.

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01-21-2010, 09:36 AM
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Whitney is too old and has lost a step.
show us the tape that proves this to a definitive degree.
he was missing Staal for 10 games. he still has a chance to finish at the same point production of last year if he has a couple solid 2+ point games. plus hes leading the team in goals. what a loser.

Whitney will be pretty effective in the playoffs wherever he ends up.

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I think cap teams will lean towards the Canes, and teams with a bit of space will come to us.

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The canes can easily move guys because contracts. Our chips are more than this year comitment so it limits trade partners... I could see us doing a bigger major deal but I see the canes in an easy spot to just fire sale.

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Can't imagine how Pisani wouldn't entice someone. Although he has struggled with health problems he was as clutch as you can get in the playoffs.
Because that was ONCE in the playoffs like 5yrs ago. Pisani will retire an Oiler because unfortunately he is a shadow of his former self.


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The canes can easily move guys because contracts. Our chips are more than this year comitment so it limits trade partners... I could see us doing a bigger major deal but I see the canes in an easy spot to just fire sale.
People are forgetting that a few Canes have no trade/movement clauses. Wallen and Whitney have been asked to waive them and still have not.

Wallen has refused before.

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Oilers because the players are better. Contracts are a factor, teams have to fit the players in but they are not going to make deals for lateral player quality. The oilers players are better and thus more desireable.

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