In an informal survey of NHL executives and general managers conducted by The Toronto Sun at the 2010 NHL/CHL Top Prospects Game at the WFCU Centre in Windsor on Wednesday, Ponikarovsky was the one Leaf not named Tomas Kaberle who respondents felt would land Toronto the most lucrative return.
“I think you might be able to get a late second-round pick for him,” one GM said. “He’s a big body guy who could go to the dirty areas in front of the net. He has some good hands too.
“I don’t think you would get much more than that. He’s not as refined as Antropov.”
it's a different year, comparing him to what Antropov got last year is meaningless. Each year has a different market. Some years people overpay, others like last year, people are more stingy on giving up assets.
When I was at the WFCU, I only saw two NHL GMs there - Don Waddel and Ken Holland (they were sitting together in the press box). Not saying there weren't more, but for conversation purposes.
And we don't know what 'market' there is for Ponikarovsky until the deadline. All it takes is a few teams being interested to raise his value (and that goes for any player). That being said, a 2nd round pick is pretty much what most on here speculate as a return for him.
I saw Zeisberger there also talking with Maple Leafs scout Dave Morrison.
It really depends on which GM is speaking about X player.
Some GM's might not see any value out of Poni because their team doesn't really need him, some teams might think he's exactly what their team need. If there's more than one team that needs him, then the price goes up.
The GM that spoke in the article doesn't seem to see much out of Ponikarovsky, or he's trying to down play his value for his own benefit. I mean a big body player that goes in the dirty areas and also has good hands? That's worth a little more than a simply late 2nd round pick to me.
“When we made the deal for Phil, Brian talked to me ahead of time,” Morrison said. “I was fine with it. I mean, this kid is a very talented player who is still very young.”
Knowing how Morrison evaluates young talent, isnt that a good sign?
Wouldnt he have a good idea about what is available this draft?
What is Morrison's track record that makes his opinion one of value?
The past The Hockey News Future Watch ranked Leafs under 21 prospects #29 of 30 teams overall..
Morrison's drafts were from 2006-2009 and the exact players in question here that place Leafs prospect pool at the near bottom of the NHL in a comparison of other teams.
The only drafted players under Morrison that have played on the Leafs this year are Euro's Kulemin, Gunnarsson and Stalberg, Schenn and 3 of those are more likely to be here as a result of Chief Euro Amateur Scout Thommie Bergman. The other Luke Schenn as the only NA player and many question his selection were it was made at #5 overall.
A "late 2nd round pick"? pretty crappy return for a useful player.
I'd rather just keep him, depending on cost, or try to get a young body in return for Poni. The chances a late 2nd rounder will turn out to be as good as Poni are minimal.
And what re-sign for around 4 mil a year? What is with you guys and wanting to keep the same guys year and year after year. Poni is a decent player, but he's now 29 or 30, he is not in our future plans why not get an asset for him? I see no point in re-signing him.
If we can get a 2nd round pick you do it.