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01-29-2010, 01:31 PM
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Yes, but he isn't a Fletcher or Burke pick so his best before date has expired.

Actually, they took the label of his butt and affixed it to Stempniak's butt to extend his shelf life.
Looks like Johnny Mitchell is starting to wear out his welcome with coach Ronnie.

Funny you mention Stempniak, because he arrived in Toronto when RW was doing his best to get Steen and Carlo a plane ticket out of town..

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I'm already getting sick of Komisarek's inability to stay healthy.

Could they have put him on LTIR and save some cap space? I'd be pissed if there's anything to do with Olympics in their decisions. But I wouldn't be surprised.

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01-29-2010, 01:34 PM
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John Mitchell is only 24 years old, isn't he?
I'm not for trading him I'm just wondering if he would have any trade value. Wasn't Phoenix asking for a young player in return for Peter Mueller

He's in his second season in the NHL. One shouldn't dismiss the possibility that he too is suffering through a sophomore slump. The burden of higher expectations coming into season (Wilson thought he'd be a 20g scorer).

He was a productive player last year (12gs, 29pts in 79 games), and I think he has it in him to be a productive player again next season. Should be interesting to see how he plays after the deadline, if he's still with the team.

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01-29-2010, 01:37 PM
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I'm already getting sick of Komisarek's inability to stay healthy.

Could they have put him on LTIR and save some cap space? I'd be pissed if there's anything to do with Olympics in their decisions. But I wouldn't be surprised.

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They had really no reason to put him on LTIR (if they didn't already). That, and the injury was a week-to-week thing if you believe the staff.

If he can't go before the Olympic break, I think we'll see him be placed on LTIR, thus opening up cap space for Burke's deadline moves.

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01-29-2010, 01:41 PM
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They had really no reason to put him on LTIR (if they didn't already). That, and the injury was a week-to-week thing if you believe the staff.

If he can't go before the Olympic break, I think we'll see him be placed on LTIR, thus opening up cap space for Burke's deadline moves.
They had a TSN report yesterday on Sportsdesk that showed Komisarek back at practice with the team and listed as questionable for the game tonight.. He appears close to returning.

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Yes, but he isn't a Fletcher or Burke pick so his best before date has expired.

Actually, they took the label of his butt and affixed it to Stempniak's butt to extend his shelf life.
Thankfully Wilson seems to be shortening his leash and realizing that Mitchell really isn't an NHL-calibre player on most nights. Hopefully he'll be skating with the Marlies next season.

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01-29-2010, 01:48 PM
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thats ****ed!!!! imo if the guy needs season ending surgery then i can accept that but if he is too hurt to play for the leafs he is too hurt to play in the olymics. not to mention the chances of him doing significant or permanent damage is greater. playing in the olympics are a privilege, playing for the leafs is his job/career. i would hope komi puts his career ahead of the olympics but i suppose with burke/wilson here, they probably covet an olympic medal more then whatever difference komi would make for the leafs. i suppose if i was in any of those 3 situation i would do the same. leafs right now =
Says a lot about our culture and it seems to be a re-occuring trend. How many guys actually care about the Leafs--first? or care at all? If Ronnie and Burkie are putting the Olympics first above the Leafs with regards to Komisarek..then you have your answer.

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01-29-2010, 01:55 PM
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Komi, like any other player, would be trying to rehab and play through it and have surgary in the offseason whether the Olympics were this year or not. It happens all the time, on every team, in every season.

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I'm not for trading him I'm just wondering if he would have any trade value. Wasn't Phoenix asking for a young player in return for Peter Mueller

He's in his second season in the NHL. One shouldn't dismiss the possibility that he too is suffering through a sophomore slump. The burden of higher expectations coming into season (Wilson thought he'd be a 20g scorer).

He was a productive player last year (12gs, 29pts in 79 games), and I think he has it in him to be a productive player again next season. Should be interesting to see how he plays after the deadline, if he's still with the team.
i personally don't think mitchell has much value. i don't think a team would even give up a draft pick for him....but you never can tell! my guess is, he could bring the leafs a similar borderline AHL/NHL player of the similar age in a straight up deal...but a team might see some value in him. you just never know.
also, i don't think a player who scores 29 points in the NHL is to be considered a "productive player", but to each their own.

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01-29-2010, 02:11 PM
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i personally don't think mitchell has much value. i don't think a team would even give up a draft pick for him....but you never can tell! my guess is, he could bring the leafs a similar borderline AHL/NHL player of the similar age in a straight up deal...but a team might see some value in him. you just never know.
also, i don't think a player who scores 29 points in the NHL is to be considered a "productive player", but to each their own.
I'd imagine he'd be a throw in for a rental to up the value of a draft pick. ie, we'll give you 2nd for Stempniak, if you throw in Mitchell.

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i personally don't think mitchell has much value. i don't think a team would even give up a draft pick for him....but you never can tell! my guess is, he could bring the leafs a similar borderline AHL/NHL player of the similar age in a straight up deal...but a team might see some value in him. you just never know.
also, i don't think a player who scores 29 points in the NHL is to be considered a "productive player", but to each their own.
I consider him productive in his first year in the NHL tallying 29 points in 76 games as a 3rd liner (IIRC). Not groundbreaking, but productive given the role.

He isn't a dominating offensive player, but he was productive as a first year forward. He looked a heck of a lot better then he has this year. I think he has the capacity to be better, he's just trying to do too much for my liking.

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01-29-2010, 02:16 PM
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Komi, like any other player, would be trying to rehab and play through it and have surgary in the offseason whether the Olympics were this year or not. It happens all the time, on every team, in every season.
i agree with what your saying but i guess i interpreted the original comment as he was going to play a few games leading up to the olympics, play in the olympics, then shut'er down right after the olympics with some sort of surgery. if that is the case it seems like an unnecessary risk to me.

would the best interest for the leafs not be for komi to have surgery immediately so that he can have more recovery time as opposed to having surgery in a few months when the season is over? at this stage of the game i am able to come to terms with the leafs and their place in the standings this year but i would hope next year we can do a little better and a healthy komi would go a long way.

i guess its all a moot point as without details with respect to the injury it is pure speculation on what is the problem. for all we know it might just be a nagging sprain or could be something more serious like a torn rotator cuff.

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01-29-2010, 02:32 PM
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Edmonton will take him.

Mitchell + 2nd for O'Sullivan
O'Sullivan's value is less than a 2nd rounder. So **** no to that deal.

Also, wtf are you doing on the Leafs board?

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01-29-2010, 02:38 PM
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Who will be replacing Komisaurus??? Exelby? It might be an understatement to say that the monster will have a hard time keeping his GAA under 3.00 for the rest of the season... with or without Komi. I wonder if the MONSTER's confidence will be ruined. Doing my best to not sound like a troll.

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Who will be replacing Komisaurus??? Exelby? It might be an understatement to say that the monster will have a hard time keeping his GAA under 3.00 for the rest of the season... with or without Komi. I wonder if the MONSTER's confidence will be ruined. Doing my best to not sound like a troll.
Komisarek and Kabs are usually paired together, Schenn is the mainstay there now. Everyones bumped up a spot meaning Finger/XLB are rotating in the 6th spot. Doubt Monster's confidence is ruined by a 29th place team in his first North American season.

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Who will be replacing Komisaurus??? Exelby? It might be an understatement to say that the monster will have a hard time keeping his GAA under 3.00 for the rest of the season... with or without Komi. I wonder if the MONSTER's confidence will be ruined. Doing my best to not sound like a troll.
i don't think gusto will have a hard time since we're getting close to the time where the leafs make their annual run for 9th spot.

that would just be rich if the usual run didn't exist this season of all seasons.

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i don't think gusto will have a hard time since we're getting close to the time where the leafs make their annual run for 9th spot.

that would just be rich if the usual run didn't exist this season of all seasons.
Lol I've heard leaf fans themselves say that Karma will dictate that since they've already traded away their 1st round pick this year they will not make this run to 9th and instead plummet to last giving Boston a 52% chance at 1st.

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Is this the GDT?



Line 1

C M.Stajan (25): 53gms, 15gls, 38pts, -1, 18:46 (82gms, 23gls, 59pts, -2)
C T.Zajac (24): 52gms, 14gls, 40pts, +18, 20:17 (82gms, 22gls, 63pts, +28)

W N.Hagman (29): 53gms, 20gls, 33pts, +0, 16:08 (82gms, 31gls, 51pts, +0)
W Z.Parise (25): 52gms, 23gls, 51pts, +23, 19:52 (82gms, 36gls, 80pts, +36)

W A.Ponikarovsky (29): 54gms, 18gls, 35pts, +3, 16:38 (82gms, 27gls, 53pts, +5)
W J.Langenbrunner (34): 52gms, 14gls, 45pts, +12, 19:56 (82gms, 22gls, 71pts, +5)


Line 2

C T.Bozak (23): 9gms, 1gls, 6pts, -1, 16:45 (82gms, 9gls, 55pts, -9)
C R.Niedermayer (34): 41gms, 6gls, 16pts, +1, 18:02 (82gms, 12gls, 32pts, +2)

W P.Kessel (21): 42gms, 15gls, 31pts, -3, 19:37 (82gms, 29gls, 61pts, -6)
W B.Rolston (36): 51gms, 16gls, 26pts, +2, 17:26 (82gms, 26gls, 42pts, +3)

W N.Kulemin (23): 50gms, 10gls, 20pts, +1, 15:14 (82gms, 16gls, 33pts, +2)
W V.Zharkov (21): 26gms, 0gls, 7pts, +4, 11:53 (82gms, 0gls, 22pts, +13)


Line 3

C R.Wallin (29): 35gms, 0gls, 3pts, -7, 11:57 (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, -16)
C D.McAmmond (36): 33gms, 5gls, 11pts, +1, 14:50 (82gms, 12gls, 27pts, +3)

W L.Stempniak (26): 54gms, 13gls, 27pts, -7, 18:02 (82gms, 20gls, 41pts, -11)
W J.Pandolfo (34): 35gms, 3gls, 8pts, -9, 15:16 (82gms, 7gls, 19pts, -21)

W J.Blake (36): 54gms, 10gls, 26pts, -2, 15:50 (82gms, 15gls, 40pts, -3)
W N.Palmieri (20): 5gms, 0gls, 1pts, +2, 11:51 (82gms, 0gls, 16pts, +33)


Line 4

C J.Mayers (34): 42gms, 1gls, 5pts, -7, 8:46 (82gms, 2gls, 10pts, -14)
C D.Zubrus (31): 22gms, 2gls, 7pts, -3, 16:25 (82gms, 8gls, 26pts, -11)

W J.Rosehill (24): 10gms, 1gls, 2pts, -2, 6:52 (82gms, 8gls, 16pts, -16)
W R.Pelley (25): 44gms, 2gls, 7pts, -4, 7:36 (82gms, 4gls, 13pts, -8)

W C.Orr (27): 54gms, 1gls, 3pts, -5, 6:50 (82gms, 2gls, 5pts, -8)
W A.Peters (25): 22gms, 0gls, 0pts, -4, 5:47 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, -15)






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D F.Beauchemin (29): 54gms, 4gls, 20pts, -8, 25:20 (82gms, 6gls, 30pts, -12)
D J.Oduya (27): 37gms, 1gls, 3pts, +5, 21:20 (82gms, 2gls, 7pts, +11)

D C.Gunnarson (22): 15gms, 0gls, 5pts, +4, 20:36 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, +22)
D C.White (31): 52gms, 2gls, 10pts, +0, 20:06 (82gms, 3gls, 16pts, +0)


Pair 2

D I.White (25): 54gms, 9gls, 26pts, +3, 23:45 (82gms, 14gls, 40pts, +5)
D A.Greene (26): 49gms, 5gls, 24pts, +11, 24:17 (82gms, 8gls, 40pts, +18)

D T.Kaberle (31): 54gms, 5gls, 42pts, -10, 23:05 (82gms, 8gls, 64pts, -15)
D B.Salvador (33): 49gms, 3gls, 11pts, +7, 19:13 (82gms, 5gls, 18pts, +12)


Pair 3

D L.Schenn (19): 51gms, 2gls, 9pts, +1, 15:24 (82gms, 3gls, 15pts, +2)
D M.Mottau (31): 50gms, 1gls, 7pts, -3, 22:25 (82gms, 2gls, 12pts, -5)

D G.Exelby (28): 32gms, 0gls, 3pts, -5, 11:12 (82gms, 0gls, 8pts, -13)
D M.Fraser (23): 44gms, 2gls, 4pts, +8, 12:14 (82gms, 4gls, 8pts, +15)





Starting Goalies

G J.Gustavsson (24): 30gms, 9-12-8, 2.98gaa, .901sv%
G M.Brodeur (37): 50gms, 31-16-2, 2.17gaa, .921sv%

Backup Goalies

G V.Toskala (32): 24gms, 7-11-2, 3.64gaa, .874sv%
G Y.Danis (28): 7gms, 3-0-0, 1.69gaa, .938sv%





Injured/Suspended

C M.Grabovski (25): 42gms, 7gls, 25pts, -1, 16:32 (82gms, 14gls, 49pts, -2)
D M.Komisarek (27): 34gms, 0gls, 4pts, -9, 19:56 (82gms, 0gls, 10pts, -22)
D M.VanRyn (30): 0gms, 0gls, 0pts, +0, 00:00 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, +0)

W P.Elias (33): 32gms, 10gls, 26pts, +13, 17:00 (82gms, 26gls, 67pts, +33)
W D.Clarkson (25): 25gms, 7gls, 15pts, -1, 14:39 (82gms, 23gls, 49pts, -3)
D P.Martin (28): 9gms, 0gls, 2pts, +1, 23:58 (82gms, 0gls, 18pts, +9)

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Darn...I finished watching all of Dexter...I used to watch the seasons during the Leafs game...now that I am done with the series...does it mean I have to watch the Leafs again???

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i agree with what your saying but i guess i interpreted the original comment as he was going to play a few games leading up to the olympics, play in the olympics, then shut'er down right after the olympics with some sort of surgery. if that is the case it seems like an unnecessary risk to me.

would the best interest for the leafs not be for komi to have surgery immediately so that he can have more recovery time as opposed to having surgery in a few months when the season is over? at this stage of the game i am able to come to terms with the leafs and their place in the standings this year but i would hope next year we can do a little better and a healthy komi would go a long way.

i guess its all a moot point as without details with respect to the injury it is pure speculation on what is the problem. for all we know it might just be a nagging sprain or could be something more serious like a torn rotator cuff.
There's not really a risk of anything, but yes, the rehab time is important, to try and get him back to a normal workout routine.

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Darn...I finished watching all of Dexter...I used to watch the seasons during the Leafs game...now that I am done with the series...does it mean I have to watch the Leafs again???
LMAO ... I just finished season two last night

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thats ****ed!!!! imo if the guy needs season ending surgery then i can accept that but if he is too hurt to play for the leafs he is too hurt to play in the olymics. not to mention the chances of him doing significant or permanent damage is greater. playing in the olympics are a privilege, playing for the leafs is his job/career. i would hope komi puts his career ahead of the olympics but i suppose with burke/wilson here, they probably covet an olympic medal more then whatever difference komi would make for the leafs. i suppose if i was in any of those 3 situation i would do the same. leafs right now =
that's teh beauty of our g.m and coach being a part of team usa. They could care less about this team and that's proven if there is any truth to that story. I guess we'll wait and see.

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LMAO ... I just finished season two last night
Well you got the worst season out of the way . Just wait til season 3 and 4. I liked season 4, then 1, then 3 and last was 2. I wish I was in your shoes haha.

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