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01-29-2010, 10:29 PM
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And as soon as I make my post his transaction is posted on theahl.com...I presume he's on the same flight as Joslin.
His transaction to head back? Or the one showing him assigned to the Baby Sharks?

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01-29-2010, 10:37 PM
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His transaction to head back? Or the one showing him assigned to the Baby Sharks?
The one assigning him to Worcester...

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01-30-2010, 01:48 AM
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as long as it's not a torn acl or something equally bad, i think it's somewhat of a good thing for the team to learn how to play without its top 2 dmen.
So I agree with you in the principle of what you are saying. But I wouldn't call Vlasic our 2nd best D. Murray and Blake are better, don't you think??

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01-30-2010, 01:48 AM
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im actually interested in seeing staubby play as D for one night...cmon guys ITS JUST AGAINST WILD

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01-30-2010, 02:06 AM
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So I agree with you in the principle of what you are saying. But I wouldn't call Vlasic our 2nd best D. Murray and Blake are better, don't you think??
Most definitely not. Vlasic is clearly better than Blake, and generally speaking more effective than Murray. (Just look at ice times.)

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01-30-2010, 02:48 AM
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So I agree with you in the principle of what you are saying. But I wouldn't call Vlasic our 2nd best D. Murray and Blake are better, don't you think??
God I hope not, if Murray is this teams #2 defenseman we're boned.

Poor Moore, never getting a chance to play in the bigs. Would he have to pass through waivers or something? Or is he just not doing very well in the AHL? Or is it the 1 mil contract?

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01-30-2010, 02:50 AM
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I really don't understand what Blake is doing on this team. I mean he was -3 for a reason against the Hawks. Is his so-called leadership really worth all the goals against?

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01-30-2010, 02:55 AM
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Derek Joslin isn't even as good as Demers...Why do we keep sending Demers down??

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01-30-2010, 03:34 AM
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Derek Joslin isn't even as good as Demers...Why do we keep sending Demers down??
The only reason Demers keeps going back and forth is to save cap space.

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01-30-2010, 07:23 AM
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God I hope not, if Murray is this teams #2 defenseman we're boned.

Poor Moore, never getting a chance to play in the bigs. Would he have to pass through waivers or something? Or is he just not doing very well in the AHL? Or is it the 1 mil contract?
It's his contract.

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01-30-2010, 07:24 AM
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The only reason Demers keeps going back and forth is to save cap space.
Yep....

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01-30-2010, 08:36 AM
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I would also suspect some of the mutli-game send downs are not just for his growth but also to spread out his games to keep him waiver ineligible.

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01-30-2010, 09:32 AM
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The way the sharks medical staff evaluates these injuries, day to day means 2 weeks and 2 weeks means 6 weeks.
And 6 weeks means services will be held on Tuesday.

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01-30-2010, 09:57 AM
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I really don't understand what Blake is doing on this team. I mean he was -3 for a reason against the Hawks. Is his so-called leadership really worth all the goals against?
Anyone ragging on Vlassic about not being the second best should take a look at this chart, this was posted on the main board. Also David, look at number 10.


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For a few years now, I've been using three of Behind The Net's stats to come up with rankings for defensive prowess among players: quality of competition, goals against per 60 minutes at even strength and goals against per 60 minutes while shorthanded. I've abbreviated those figures below as QCMP, EVGA and SHGA.

Taking defencemen who have played at least 30 games and who play a key role on their team's penalty kill (about two minutes or more a game), here's my ranking of the league's top defensive defencemen prior to Thursday night's games:


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01-30-2010, 11:04 AM
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Anyone ragging on Vlassic about not being the second best should take a look at this chart, this was posted on the main board. Also David, look at number 10.


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if i read this right, then it means that vlasic doesn't really play against the other teams top players.

considering he is actually 4th on the team in quality of opponents.

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01-30-2010, 11:08 AM
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"San Jose Sharks Executive Vice President and General Manager Doug Wilson announced today that the club has reassigned forward Logan Couture and defenseman Jason Demers to the Worcester Sharks, the teamís top development affiliate in the American Hockey League."

http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|SJS|home

I believe this means he actually has to go to Worchester for at least a day.
Looks like Demers is coming back:
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Couture is back, for the moment, but Derek Joslin is up with San Jose, joining Jason Demers.
Demers either turned around and took a 7pm flight last night or is flying right now w/ Joslin. Luckily, there are sunny skies in the Bay Area this morning.

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01-30-2010, 11:12 AM
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if i read this right, then it means that vlasic doesn't really play against the other teams top players.

considering he is actually 4th on the team in quality of opponents.
Look at Ehrhoff who everyone wants back. heh.

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01-30-2010, 11:30 AM
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It's his contract.
I dont buy into this argument. They let Juicy play against the Hawks and his cap hit is basically the same.

The kid should get a shot.

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01-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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I dont buy into this argument. They let Juicy play against the Hawks and his cap hit is basically the same.

The kid should get a shot.
I assume 210 is saying he's having a good year in Worcester (right?). If Vlasic is something not short, I would hope they'd put him on LTIR and then maybe we'd see Moore.

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01-30-2010, 12:24 PM
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I dont buy into this argument. They let Juicy play against the Hawks and his cap hit is basically the same.

The kid should get a shot.
You don't have to buy into it, but it is what the facts show.

Moore is playing significantly better than Joslin is, so much so that many fans last night were happy Joslin was out and ECHLer Will Colbert was playing.

Going by what's been mentioned many times that hockey ops in San Jose talks to hockey ops in Worcester and recalls the player playing best and they haven't called up Moore this season, logic says his cap hit has to be the reason.

This is why I think we'll start to see younger players signing lower value NHL deals so that they'll be more attractive when a recall is needed.

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01-30-2010, 12:25 PM
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I assume 210 is saying he's having a good year in Worcester (right?). If Vlasic is something not short, I would hope they'd put him on LTIR and then maybe we'd see Moore.
He's having a very good year...

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01-30-2010, 12:38 PM
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You don't have to buy into it, but it is what the facts show.

Moore is playing significantly better than Joslin is, so much so that many fans last night were happy Joslin was out and ECHLer Will Colbert was playing.

Going by what's been mentioned many times that hockey ops in San Jose talks to hockey ops in Worcester and recalls the player playing best and they haven't called up Moore this season, logic says his cap hit has to be the reason.

This is why I think we'll start to see younger players signing lower value NHL deals so that they'll be more attractive when a recall is needed.
Then explain Juicys recall. There was really no need for it unless he was getting showcased. Which would be a horrid decision in my opinion. Just doesnt make sense that you can recall one million dollar guy and not another one. Im not saying hes not playing well, Im just trying to figure out why hes not getting a shot.

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01-30-2010, 12:56 PM
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Then explain Juicys recall. There was really no need for it unless he was getting showcased. Which would be a horrid decision in my opinion. Just doesnt make sense that you can recall one million dollar guy and not another one. Im not saying hes not playing well, Im just trying to figure out why hes not getting a shot.
Couture was playing the best of all the Worcester forwards, and apparently the difference between his cap hit and McGinn's was not an issue for hockey ops in San Jose, while the difference between Moore's and Joslin's is an issue.

You can't specifically compare Couture's hit vs Moore's because they replace different players...

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Anyone ragging on Vlassic about not being the second best should take a look at this chart, this was posted on the main board. Also David, look at number 10.


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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs...rticle1448148/
Please, his quality of competition is extremely low!

Look at someone like Volchenkov who has 0.216 and is still better shorthanded!

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we never really know what youre missing til its gone. case and point malhotra earlier. we all knew he was good. but we didnt really see the impact he had on the team until he was out for 7 or so games. Pickles has only missed one game in his career so far! if hes out a significant amount of time we will see how much we need him

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