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01-30-2010, 02:37 PM
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How will Stajan improve the Phoenix roster? We should be seeking Poni or Hagman if anyone from the Leafs. I live in Toronto so am forced to watch a lot of Leafs game and Stajan strikes me as one of the major problems why they are doing so poorly this year. I'm anxious to see how well Boedker does when called up.

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if Mueller isn't in, then there is no discussions, bye bye
Reality Check: What did you get for Antropov? Thanks for playing. Have a nice day.

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How will Stajan improve the Phoenix roster? We should be seeking Poni or Hagman if anyone from the Leafs. I live in Toronto so am forced to watch a lot of Leafs game and Stajan strikes me as one of the major problems why they are doing so poorly this year. I'm anxious to see how well Boedker does when called up.
How so?

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How so?
Stajan takes a lot of flack in TO because he was given top line duty and couldn't perform to that level. The fact is, he's kind of soft, and inconsistent defensively... and could stand to be a bit stronger on his skates. Those 3 factors have garnered him a lot of hate. The fact is he's a good offensive center to play 2nd or 3rd line minutes.


What people don't realize is that he's also still a few years away from his prime, and stands to improve.

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As for the proposal, here it goes...

To PHX:
Matt Stajan

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PHX's '10 2nd
Nick Ross
Robert Lang
fair value, Yes for a leafs POV

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if Mueller isn't in, then there is no discussions, bye bye
and whats wrong with a 2nd and a dec prospect for stajan? thats a dam good deal, and BB would be stupid to not take it. mueller is a very good player, but if phoenix doesn't want to trade him, that shouldn't mean that all communications breakdown immediately.

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01-30-2010, 03:45 PM
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I feel like it's a little bit too much from Phoenix. If there were a bit of a bidding war for Stajan, I'd be willing to give up Ross. But I'd rather take him out and offer a lower tier forward. If the Leafs want someone a little closer to NHL ready, maybe American-born Colin Long, currently playing bottom line minutes for the Rampage?

Phx 2nd in 2010
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Again, no Mueller please. For that matter, please do not include any discussion about Kyle Turris, Mikkel Boedker, or Oliver Ekman-Larsson. I respectfully request that any Mueller, Turris, Boedker, or Larsson discussion take place in another thread. Thanks in advance.

As for the proposal, here it goes...

To PHX:
Matt Stajan

To TOR:
PHX's '10 2nd
Nick Ross
Robert Lang
Over payment for a soon to be UFA--dogs would be better to keep the deal and if they want stajan get him in the off season

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Over payment for a soon to be UFA--dogs would be better to keep the deal and if they want stajan get him in the off season
Playoffs.

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I feel like it's a little bit too much from Phoenix. If there were a bit of a bidding war for Stajan, I'd be willing to give up Ross. But I'd rather take him out and offer a lower tier forward. If the Leafs want someone a little closer to NHL ready, maybe American-born Colin Long, currently playing bottom line minutes for the Rampage?

Phx 2nd in 2010
Robert Lang
Colin Long
I don't really hold Ross in much higher regard than Long. Both need a lot of work before they can reach their NHL potential. Both are coin tosses, at best.

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01-30-2010, 04:20 PM
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[QUOTE=glucker;23508691]Stajan takes a lot of flack in TO because he was given top line duty and couldn't perform to that level. The fact is, he's kind of soft, and inconsistent defensively... and could stand to be a bit stronger on his skates. Those 3 factors have garnered him a lot of hate. The fact is he's a good offensive center to play 2nd or 3rd line minutes.

RT, I think the exact same thing.

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I would do it.

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I wouldn't do it because Ross doesn't address any organizational hole and will have nowhere to play for the next few years, and also because the OP was a dick about Mueller.

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I wouldn't do it because Ross doesn't address any organizational hole and will have nowhere to play for the next few years, and also because the OP was a dick about Mueller.
There are already a ton of Mueller threads. I wanted to talk Toronto and Phoenix without it becoming a clone of every other thread. Dick.

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Reality Check: What did you get for Antropov? Thanks for playing. Have a nice day.
Different draft years yield different values for draft picks. Theres your reality check. You cant compare that.

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01-30-2010, 05:25 PM
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Well short of getting a 1st round to Leafs, 2nd rounders for '10 would probably be pretty valueable to Toronto.

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Different draft years yield different values for draft picks. Theres your reality check. You cant compare that.
I like the mid to bottom part of this year's first round much more than last year's. Olli Jokinen was the only forward to return a first rounder last deadline. Matt Stajan is not getting you a first round pick. It will not happen.

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01-30-2010, 07:55 PM
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Good, fair value. The Coyotes need a player like Stajan, quick and able to move the puck, especially down the center. Seeing how Lang's contact is up at the end of the year, it would make a lot of sense. I can actually see most of our 2nd tier group of prospects (the 1st tier being the unmentionables) being included in the place of Nick Ross, so I wouldn't mind substituting in Hextall or Staal for that matter.
According to sources, GMDM was interested in Stajan, and Maloney does not seem like the type to give up, so I would expect a proposal like this. Maybe lacking the salary dump, (although as a Coyote fan I see him as more than just that) but the prospect and pick seems to fit Burke well.

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I would not trade Summers, straight across, for Stajan.
Didn't realize he was so highly valued in your system. Sorry. Either way I'd be fine with your first offer.

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I wouldn't do it because Ross doesn't address any organizational hole and will have nowhere to play for the next few years, and also because the OP was a dick about Mueller.
It absolutely addresses a team need. We have next to no defense depth. White may be moved at the deadline and Kaberle in the off season so there could be room before you know it. I also only see Finger playing one more season with the leafs before being dropped to the minors. Either way the leafs could easily find room for him. He's not a current NHLer so it's fine. I agree with the op about Mueller. There are enough threads involving him to last a lifetime.

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Over payment for a soon to be UFA--dogs would be better to keep the deal and if they want stajan get him in the off season
How exactly does going after him in the off season help PHX's playoff push?

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