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Gretzky vs Lemieux vs Lindros vs Jagr vs Forsberg

View Poll Results: Who was the really best and most dominant player (forward) in his prime?
Gretzky 95 50.26%
Lemieux 80 42.33%
Lindros 3 1.59%
Jagr 2 1.06%
Forsberg 9 4.76%
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01-31-2010, 01:04 AM
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Even by your own unique "physically imposing" definition, Howe was more dominant than either Forsberg or Lindros during his peak.

He scored more relative to his peers, he was every bit as good defensively as Forsberg, and he was no less rough and tumble than a prime Lindros.
That's possibly true, but Howe is not on this poll.

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01-31-2010, 01:04 AM
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i will take Lemieux

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1. Gretzky
2. Lemieux
3. Jagr
4. Forsberg/Lindros

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That's possibly true, but Howe is not on this poll.
Ah, I had assumed the OP was listing who he thought were the most dominant.

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Lemieux was the hardest player to knock off the puck in NHL history and the most physically talented forward ever. Gretzky was smarter and had much better instincts and vision on the ice, but no one had the physical gifts Lemieux did. That play from the playoffs where Lemieux just utterly embarrasses Ray Bourque pretty much encapsulates why he wins this poll.

Forsberg didn't score enough and Lindros only really dominated against bad teams. Jagr is closer (it was also nearly impossible to take the puck from him, he's second only to Mario in that respect), but still not at the level of either 66 or 99.

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Not picking Gretzky or Lemieux should get you an automatic lifetime ban from hfboards. I'll take the great one, but the season Lemieux came back to overtake Lafontaine for the points lead is one for the books.

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01-31-2010, 02:08 AM
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There should be no votes for anyone except Lemieux and Gretzky.

Unless you're interpreting dominance to be purely physical, there is really no justification for choosing Jagr, Forsberg or Lindros. Sure, dancing around with the puck and fighting off 2 guys makes a great highlight reel but if it doesn't end up in the back of their net it doesn't really matter. And Gretzky and Lemieux made that happen more than pretty much anyone else in the history of the game.

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Gretzky is the most productive forward in NHL history, and it isn't even close.

Lemieux is the greatest offensive talent I have ever seen.

Forsberg, IMO, is, after Gretzky and Lemieux, the best player of the '90s. His prime was short, but extremely dominant.

Jagr is the guy who challenged Forsberg for the above-mentioned title. He was an offensive beast, and while Forsberg had him beat in physicality, two-way play, etc., Jagr had offensive weapons rarely seen.

Lindros was in some ways comparable to Lemieux, but he wasn't quite as talented and had that fatal flaw in his game that was readily exploited...

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There is a distinction between dominance and offensive dominance.

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Gretzky. 51 game point steak with 61 goals and 92 assists (153 points) in his prime.

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Going with Gretzky here.

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Lemieux could score 1vs5.

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When in doubt, choose the guy who can pull a guy on his back on a breakaway and score.



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Thanks for confirming just how overrated Forsberg is.

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Thanks for confirming just how overrated Forsberg is.
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Gretzky or Lemieux, choose your poison. I can also respect a few votes for Jagr for what he did in the dead puck era but Forsberg and Lindros is just

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Dominance is more assists all time than anyone has points. Name another sport where a guy has the records that Gretzky has? The guy had more points in three seasons than most guys will have in a 10-15 year career. The guy was the most dominant athlete in any sport, bar none.

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Lemieux or Gretzky. Voted Lemieux but I see them as equals.


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02-01-2010, 09:55 AM
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Lemieux is the answer though Gretzky is acceptable as well

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Gretzky.
From the 81-82 season through to the 87-88 season he outscored the second place guy by and average of over 70 points in each of those seasons. Thats an average of over 50% more points than the next best player for 6 straight years! Nobody was ever that dominant, not Mario not anybody. The numbers speak for themselves.

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I'm surprised Jagr has 0 votes.

You think a guy 5 Art Ross trophies and 5 seasons of 120+ points would get a little more respect.

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I'm surprised Jagr has 0 votes.

You think a guy 5 Art Ross trophies and 5 seasons of 120+ points would get a little more respect.
He should have 0 votes, as should Forsberg and Lindros. This is a two-horse race. The only reason Jagr doesn't have any sympathy votes like Lindros and Forsberg do is because he played for the same team as Lemieux, so Lemieux gets any Pens homer votes Jagr would have received.

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I'm surprised Jagr has 0 votes.

You think a guy 5 Art Ross trophies and 5 seasons of 120+ points would get a little more respect.
LOL you think its disrespectful to Jagr that most choose Gretzky or Lemieux?

I am sure even Jagr himself would would take Gretzky or Lemieux.

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LOL you think its disrespectful to Jagr that most choose Gretzky or Lemieux?

I am sure even Jagr himself would would take Gretzky or Lemieux.
No, but ignoring Gretzky and Mario, Jagr is easily the best between him, Forsberg, and Lindros. You think he would be the one getting the most blind homer votes.

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