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W Ty Rattie (2011, 32nd overall, St. Louis)

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11-29-2011, 11:56 AM
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Hes nothing like Spezza and not the skater or all-around player Sharp is.

He kind of reminds me of JP Dumont average size, average skater, mediocre defensively, but has silky hands and excellent vision of the ice. Knack for being in the right place at the right time.

Gut feel right now, though, is that Bartschi is really the alpha of that duo and turning Rattie from an 80-point WHL player into a guy who looks like hell score 120-odd points this year. Bartschi is a man against boys right now with his ability to make plays at top speed and opens up massive holes for everyone else on the ice.
Other than the "mediocre defensively" that sounds a bit like Jason Pominville.

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11-29-2011, 12:00 PM
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Other than the "mediocre defensively" that sounds a bit like Jason Pominville.
That's actually the other guy I compared him to last year. Weird.

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11-30-2011, 03:59 AM
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Rattie is a solid defensive player and he's really grown in that area of his game.

If you are thinking of someone he could compare to at the next level, I still think Sharp is a good one.
Sharp is a great skater and an *elite* two-way player who has been top-5 in Selke voting in the past.

Rattie has improved defensively to the point where he's decent at the WHL level, but barring a huge transformation it's difficult to see him excelling in the NHL in that regard. And his skating isn't anywhere near Sharp's.

Pominville I agree is a more reasonable upside comparison.

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Flipside, though, is that because of his lack of speed and size/strength, he may end up getting exposed when he moves up to the AHL - a la Duncan Milroy.

As I said previously, I don't think he's nearly as good as his numbers look right now. That doesn't mean he isn't a good prospect or won't play in the NHL eventually, but the hype should probably hold off until he isn't feeding off an NHL-ready stud as a linemate.

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12-03-2011, 11:05 PM
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Rattie with another 4 point game tonight and they haven't yet started the 3d period.

29GP, 28g, 27a 55pts. Tied for WHL and CHL lead in goals. Hope he makes Team Canada for WJC.

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12-07-2011, 12:19 AM
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Hat trick tonight, 31G in 30GP

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I read a rumor on another site that Rattie may have sustained a head injury, but no one was able to confirm. Does anyone have any info. on this? He missed tonight's game.

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I read a rumor on another site that Rattie may have sustained a head injury, but no one was able to confirm. Does anyone have any info. on this? He missed tonight's game.
I heard that too, but haven't seen anything official.

Sven's picking up the slack for him tonight.

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Yeah head injury and it doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means now that he's started missing games.

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The Hawks sat third leading scorer Brad Ross for the second consecutive night for disciplinary reasons and also lost leading scorer Ty Rattie, who left the game late in the second period after taking a blow to the head.

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Yeah head injury and it doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means now that he's started missing games.
Well first off, hope Rattie will be ok soon enough. He was having a fantastic year up until now. I think he's a very underrated prospect and still trying to figure out how he ended up in the 2nd round in last years draft.

I have both of these prospects in my keeper league. Was trying to figure out why Ross wasn't playing. What did he do anyway?

I live in Ontario so my opportunity to see WHL games is practically non-existent.

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I have both of these prospects in my keeper league. Was trying to figure out why Ross wasn't playing. What did he do anyway?

I live in Ontario so my opportunity to see WHL games is practically non-existent.
The best I can find is "unspecified disciplinary reasons". I think Winterhawks management wants to play down the case.

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Rattie returned last night and scored a goal.

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02-18-2012, 07:04 PM
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Three goals and two assists this afternoon for Rattie, with the game still in the third period.

He now has 48 goals on the season, second in the WHL.

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Trying to decide between Toffoli and Rattie which to pick up in my keeper league. Who is safer? Who is better?

Both are having great seasons.

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Trying to decide between Toffoli and Rattie which to pick up in my keeper league. Who is safer? Who is better?

Both are having great seasons.
Both also faced with stiff competition for fitting into the NHL teams roster. I wouldn't want to have to make that call! Haha.

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Trying to decide between Toffoli and Rattie which to pick up in my keeper league. Who is safer? Who is better?

Both are having great seasons.
Can't speak to Toffoli but I can say that as a sniper if/when he cracks the Blues I'd like his chances to get some PP time, especially with his success on it. At that point you're talking about a 4th/5th year Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk QB'ing the PP.

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Trying to decide between Toffoli and Rattie which to pick up in my keeper league. Who is safer? Who is better?

Both are having great seasons.
I don't think this is a tough choice at all. Rattie's competition is Tarasenko, Oshie, Perron, Stewart, Mcdonald etc.

Who is Toffoli's competition? Dustin Brown, Justin Williams, Dustin Penner? come the trade deadline, maybe Jeff Carter?

Not to mention the Blues have a stacked organization prospects-wise, whereas the Kings are sorely lacking on the wings.

Easy answer: Toffoli should be your pick up.

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02-18-2012, 09:31 PM
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Blues are much better at developing prospects, they used their 32nd pick on him

Go with Rattie

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Trying to decide between Toffoli and Rattie which to pick up in my keeper league. Who is safer? Who is better?

Both are having great seasons.
I watch every 67s game and I'm not sure Toffoli will ever be an NHLer. His skating is soooo slowwww. He's able to put up big numbers in junior when he can just play offence but when he turns pro he's going to have to be able to keep up and idk if he's going to be able to do that barring huge improvements on skating.

I'd take Rattie, he's a lot safer to make it to the NHL.

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02-20-2012, 10:42 AM
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Three goals and two assists this afternoon for Rattie, with the game still in the third period.

He now has 48 goals on the season, second in the WHL.
Whats his Nhl potential, 25-25?

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02-20-2012, 04:16 PM
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Whats his Nhl potential, 25-25?
Probably better than that if he hits his highest potential. Could definitely be a 60-80 point player with several more years of seasoning.

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Rattie 56GP 50G, 50A, 100pts

Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

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Is Ty Rattie a steal?

It's hard to overlook the numbers, He barely turned 19 and has over 50 goals and 100 points to his name, and he would still be eligible for two more CHL seasons.

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While I am obviously biased being a Winterhawks fan I am going to say yes. The guy is a goal scoring machine and is leading the Hawks towards what I hope is another deep playoff run.

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Good hockey sense and a great shot, so far he's looking to be. The thing about Rattie is he'll fill out another 15 to 25 lbs over the next few years, and the added muscle should improve his game. I think he's got a pretty high ceiling.

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