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01-31-2010, 12:27 PM
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Wallin know his way to San Jose? (MOD EDIT: Wallin+5 for 2nd)

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/sjs100131.html

http://spectorshockey.net/index.php?...umors&Itemid=4

This is a big, veteran Swedish defenseman who truly could help the Sharks blue line. He weighs in at 220, and is 6-3. With a cap hit of 1.725, it makes you wonder who would go back. At 34 he brings a good veteran presence to the blue line, along with a cup ring. Huskins has a similar 1.7 contract, however was just signed over summer so it might not be likely that we trade him. This guy is exactly who I would go after if I were in the shoes of Doug Wilson.


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Is he the old Alexei Semenov of the hockey world?

The Sharks need physicality, moreso than just Murray.

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This guy is a career minus player - can't we do better than him??

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Is he the old Alexei Semenov of the hockey world?

The Sharks need physicality, moreso than just Murray.
No, he's much better than Semenov.
He's psysical - has a 125 hit this year. Can't afraid to play body.

He's good bottom-pairing defenseman, great warrior, plays big minutes on PK, blogs a lot of shoots, have a great expierence...

and has a 3 scored goals in playoffs. All of them - in overtime. This is why Carolina fans knows him as a Secret Weapon.

For bottom pairing, you can't find too many players better than Nicky.

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No, he's much better than Semenov.
He's psysical - has a 125 hit this year. Can't afraid to play body.

He's good bottom-pairing defenseman, great warrior, plays big minutes on PK, blogs a lot of shoots, have a great expierence...

and has a 3 scored goals in playoffs. All of them - in overtime. This is why Carolina fans knows him as a Secret Weapon.

For bottom pairing, you can't find too many players better than Nicky.
How is he at tunrovers and making the first pass out of the defensive end.

The problem is as have pretty good bottom pairing players right now - how would he do in a top 4 pairing?

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The only way this works is if Mitchell or Huskins is going back the other way. I really don't think Wallin is any better than Huskins, so that doesn't make any sense. Mitchell doesn't make quite enough, but maybe Mitchell + Shelley is enough. Clowe is also possible as he's been delegated to the 3rd line, but I'd want a LOT more coming back than Wallin then.

Still, you have to replace Mitchell in the lineup with a league minimum player. That means not Mcginn or Couture. McClaren isn't exactly fast, or a penalty killer either. I dunno, seems like something is missing here.

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The only way this works is if Mitchell or Huskins is going back the other way. I really don't think Wallin is any better than Huskins, so that doesn't make any sense. Mitchell doesn't make quite enough, but maybe Mitchell + Shelley is enough. Clowe is also possible as he's been delegated to the 3rd line, but I'd want a LOT more coming back than Wallin then.

Still, you have to replace Mitchell in the lineup with a league minimum player. That means not Mcginn or Couture. McClaren isn't exactly fast, or a penalty killer either. I dunno, seems like something is missing here.
He seems like a tougher player than Huskins - has 125 hits to Huskins' 25. Sounds like the classic, tough, stay-at-home dman. Could be a good pairing for Demers.

At the trade deadline, his pro-rated cap hit will be $340K so we could deal a prospect instead. I wouldn't mind trading Huskins, though, but I think he has negative value w/ his cap hit

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Wallin is not quick. He is good with first pass. Like all have said, a bottom pairing guy with a style similar (not the same as) to Murray's.

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If all it takes is a prospect like Mashinter, Zalewski, Joslin or Moore, I'd do it. Seems like the tougher 5/6 we can use over a Huskins.

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If all it takes is a prospect like Mashinter, Zalewski, Joslin or Moore, I'd do it. Seems like the tougher 5/6 we can use over a Huskins.
I wouldn't give up Joslin for a minimal upgrade in Wallin. From what I know, the Sharks have pretty limited defensive depth in their system, at least in terms of guys that are close to NHL ready.

I could be way off on that though.

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Only if it means Huskins is gone.

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DW may go for a "out of the ball park" (e.g., S. Niedermayer -- a very unlikely acquisition) trade, or a "solid, upgrade" guy.

And Wallin doesn't sound really likely to be of the latter type.

I'm not that interested in raiding Worcester (creating a lack of depth) unless it's for an "out of the ball park" type trade.

(Sharks do have some depth in goal with 1-2 more guys potentially playing pro in North America next season, re-signing Nabokov notwithstanding. I.e., Sateri, Karlsson.)

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I wouldn't give up Joslin for a minimal upgrade in Wallin. From what I know, the Sharks have pretty limited defensive depth in their system, at least in terms of guys that are close to NHL ready.

I could be way off on that though.
Next year our D looks like this:
Boyle
Murray
Vlasic
Demers

The remaining 2 slots could be filled by:
Huskins (I hope he's traded or bought out)
Leach (solid #6/7)
Joslin
Moore
Blake (only if he re-signs for $1.5m and plays the 5/6 slot)

I think we need to trade for a top 4 dman at the deadline or offseason.

My hope is someone like Brent Burns (I'd trade Clowe + Ferreiro + 2nd) for him. If we can, then our D next year looks very solid and Joslin or Moore (whomever is lower on the depth chart) turns into a luxury instead of depth.

I'm not even counting Petrecki as it sounds like he's a couple years away.

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DW may go for a "out of the ball park" (e.g., S. Niedermayer -- a very unlikely acquisition) trade
I can't imagine what it would take to trade for Scotty. It'd be awesome sure but would drain us.

My hope is we trade for a solid top 4 who will be on the squad next year, too. Ahem, Brent Burns or Tim Gleason.

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I wouldn't give up Joslin for a minimal upgrade in Wallin. From what I know, the Sharks have pretty limited defensive depth in their system, at least in terms of guys that are close to NHL ready.

I could be way off on that though.
Me neither.

And I agree with others that unless it's Huskins going the other way, I wouldn't want to make this trade.

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Next year our D looks like this:
Boyle
Murray
Vlasic
Demers

The remaining 2 slots could be filled by:
Huskins (I hope he's traded or bought out)
Leach (solid #6/7)
Joslin
Moore
Blake (only if he re-signs for $1.5m and plays the 5/6 slot)

I think we need to trade for a top 4 dman at the deadline or offseason.

My hope is someone like Brent Burns (I'd trade Clowe + Ferreiro + 2nd) for him. If we can, then our D next year looks very solid and Joslin or Moore (whomever is lower on the depth chart) turns into a luxury instead of depth.

I'm not even counting Petrecki as it sounds like he's a couple years away.

Definitely agree with you that they need to bring in a top 4 dman. Blake has been better lately but the way he has played this year, I can't see him coming back (probably retire).

I suppose I'd just rather hold onto a young d-man like Joslin than bring in Wallin to essentially replace Demers/Leach for the playoffs, or possibly Huskins if he is moved in the deal. Now if they bring in a top 4 guy instead of a bottom pair defenseman like Wallin, then I'm all for it.

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Are there any UFA defensemen that will be available?

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Are there any UFA defensemen that will be available?
EDIT (I'll note guys I'd target and their salary):

Slim pickings:

Kubina, Pavel (max $3.5)
Corvo, Joe (max $2.5)
Seidenberg, Dennis (max $2.75)
Leopold, Jordan
Johnsson, Kim (max $3.5)
Zidlicky, Marek (max $3)
Hamhuis, Dan (max $3)
Martin, Paul
Volchenkov, Anton (max $4.5)
Michalek, Zbynek
Mitchell, Willie
Morrisonn, Shaone

Lidstrom is, too, but the Leafs will win the Cup before we ever sign him.


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Some good choices there. Maybe Doug will grow a pair and will overpay someone at the deadline... he says he doesn't like doing it, yet he did it twice with Blake.

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Are there any UFA defensemen that will be available?
Yes. (But I don't have a list immediately accessible.)

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Booo trade Clowe for Kaberle

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Booo trade Clowe for Kaberle
Booo (back). Trade Clowe + for Brent Burns Kaberle isn't what the Sharks need

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