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Poll: Are the Rangers Better or Worse post Kotalik for Ollie

View Poll Results: Will the Rangers be better post Kotalik for Ollie
Yes the Team is going to be better 175 96.69%
No the team will be worse off 6 3.31%
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02-02-2010, 09:10 AM
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Poll: Are the Rangers Better or Worse post Kotalik for Ollie

I think it's important that we rejoice in our small victories in preparation for the bigger ones.

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It will have no affect on this season. It will on next season.

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Better this year and in the future. Kotalik was a waste of space, Jokinen can't be much worse.

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Hopefully better.

But anyway... Just getting rid of that contract = WIN.

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Be shocked to see how anyone could vote "no" based on the freeing up of cap space alone.

Adding some grit to this group of softies is pure gravy.

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It will have no affect on this season. It will on next season.
I think it will have an affect. Kotalik hasn't even been playing and Higgins has not contributed anything for what seems like ages now (he has just 4 points in his last 26 games)

Unless Jokinen doesn't like money, he's going to make this team better. Not cup contender better, but actually have a decent chance of squeaking into the playoffs as usual now if Hank has a strong finish

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On-ice: Better. No question. Even if Ollie doesn't live up to the hype or expectations, he's better than those 2 bums.

Off-ice: Better. No question. Sather offloaded another quasi-albatross contract of Kotalik for 2 more years. I laughed and smiled (as an Isles fan) at the signing.

I remain amazed at Sather. How he found a taker for Gomez and Kotalik is beyond me. As an NHL10 (Ea Sports) GM, you couldn't get me take either one of those bums (and by the way, they're better in that game than they are in real life).

He's averted off-ice and cap restriction disaster twice now. I'm interested in seeing how many lives this guy has. Either way, he's produced nothing at GM and simply continues to run in sand (one step forward / one step back). He's a master at job security (continually baffling his superiors and doing just enough not to get canned). He needs to write a book.

As for Darryl Sutter... someone seriously needs to check that guy's blood for signs of serious drug use.

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02-02-2010, 09:25 AM
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It will have no affect on this season. It will on next season.
Yes, we need to take all factors into account here. The overall health of the franchise moving forward. The roster now and in the future, the extra cap room etc

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02-02-2010, 09:26 AM
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Better? I guess, im not doing cartwheels though. Jokinen is coming over from another team that has had major problems scoring with a good goaltender, and he is one of the "leading forwards" there. A lot depends on how the lines mesh and if hes a guy who can do what Torts wants him to do.

Make no mistake, this team still needs a TON of work both on the ice and on the books.

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I think I'd just like to see us all agree on something positive....

The team now can't be worse. They traded a bench warmer for at worst a decent #2 center who is a UFA this summer. Win/Win

They traded Higgy somewhere where he may actually fit better for a guy who can actually fight and be gritty in a meaningful way. Win/win

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02-02-2010, 09:56 AM
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There's only one scenario that we're worse and it invloves Sather signing Ollie to an extension.

Otherwise it's a completely better team on and off ice. Or at the very LEAST a lateral move on the ice and way better off it.

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I certainly think so.

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This the Center we should have gotten instead of Gomez. So only 3 years late....not bad.

I am happy to have Oli Jokinen.

Shame Higgins didn't work out.

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Where is the "we get cap space for a run at Kovalchuk, so even if Jokinen is awful, the Rangers get a better draft pick, so I'm happy with what took place" option?

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I think we're slightly better this season. Prust is a nice little tough guy, and Jokinen should provide more offense than Higgins. That makes us better this year. It might not translate to more wins, since we're still lacking on both sides of the puck, but I think our team becomes a bit better overall.

Better in the long haul, having shed Kotalik's deal. He was a $3MM spare forward.

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The best part of this deal was getting rid of Kotalik's salary.

As for Kotalik vs. Jokinen... we got rid of a player with a bad attitude in return for another player with a bad attitude. Olli's post-game quotes did not sound too promising last night.

This team is still fragile and mentally weak.

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I hope he sucks here so we can still get a relatively high pick.

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For this season, it can only make this team better.

For next season, it's addition by subtraction when it comes to Kotalik and, as much as I hate to say it, Higgins' impact was minimal on the offensive side of the puck and replaceable on the defensive side. What Slats does with the freed-up cash from ditching Kotalik is the key.

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The best part of this deal was getting rid of Kotalik's salary.

As for Kotalik vs. Jokinen... we got rid of a player with a bad attitude in return for another player with a bad attitude. Olli's post-game quotes did not sound too promising last night.

This team is still fragile and mentally weak.
Why do I get a feeling it won't be long until he's in Torts doghouse.

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I hope he sucks here so we can still get a relatively high pick.
Sorry to go off topic, but I hate this sort of talk. A team needs to try to win all the time. Look at Detroit, look at New Jersey, they expect to win at all times. They don't give a s*** what it does for their draft position, because they draft well no matter where they finish the season. If you want something to happen, hope for the Rangers to draft better forward prospects (Stepan and Kreider are a very good start).

If the Rangers think it's OK to lose, then it doesn't matter how good our prospects are.

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The best part of this deal was getting rid of Kotalik's salary.

As for Kotalik vs. Jokinen... we got rid of a player with a bad attitude in return for another player with a bad attitude. Olli's post-game quotes did not sound too promising last night.

This team is still fragile and mentally weak.
Well, he sounded bitter, but he also took ownership of the situation. He said he understood that for $5M/year, 11 goals isn't cutting it. And that he knew this was a business, and could be cruel.

He was a captain in Florida, so I have a hard time believing he's that bad in the clubhouse. To be quite honest, those types of things tend to get blown out of proportion by the Canadian fan bases...they often overreact to things even worse than we do.

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It will have no affect on this season. It will on next season.
Are you serious? How can you say it wont have an affect on this season? Of course it will.

Jokinen will help this team. Kotalik wasn't even playing. I dont't understand why this is even a poll question. I say Rangers squeak into the playoffs

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Sorry to go off topic, but I hate this sort of talk. A team needs to try to win all the time. Look at Detroit, look at New Jersey, they expect to win at all times. They don't give a s*** what it does for their draft position, because they draft well no matter where they finish the season. If you want something to happen, hope for the Rangers to draft better forward prospects (Stepan and Kreider are a very good start).

If the Rangers think it's OK to lose, then it doesn't matter how good our prospects are.
very well said.

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Are you serious? How can you say it wont have an affect on this season? Of course it will.

Jokinen will help this team. Kotalik wasn't even playing. I dont't understand why this is even a poll question. I say Rangers squeak into the playoffs
Because I'm not sold on the idea of Jokinen helping this team.

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Someone voted NO?

Lol.....would love to hear any reason this trade doesnt help the Rangers moving forward

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