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02-05-2010, 01:05 AM
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Helps with backwards crossovers

Im not talking about them leisure one, I mean the ones wear your one defense and you do probably maybe 10 rapidly to get going to get a good gap on the forward..

Im okay on one side, \but the other blows, I seem to push with my toes a lot


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I can't explain very well but there are two types, 1) you use your toes and generate speed more, e.g. you literally are leaping off your toes, cutting the motion short for speed 2) you are more on the heel and use it to move laterally more, e.g. you do the full motion each time. The answer in each case is practice- all the time.

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A lot of it is in your ankles.

You need to be on your toes, but as you're pushing off of the ice you need to snap your foot (like the end of a jump) to generate speed quickly. Otherwise it'll just look like you're falling and hopping at the same time.

The fact that you can do it on one side indicates to me that you already know what to do... you just need to practice!

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Is that scissor skate actually a backwards crossunder though? He's not actually pulling his body, just making C-cuts with the outside edge (I say "just" even though it's incredibly difficult).

This video looks to demonstrate it a lot better:

The way I've heard it described is to grab the ice and pull/drag yourself with the outside edge of the under foot. But every time I try to think through the steps I can't imagine it...I need to be on the ice to actually do them.

Another good video:

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Ha that first video is old as I am! I remember that gear in the late 70s. That was nice to see for nostalgia's sake. I owned skates like those lmao.

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Originally Posted by HannaColts View Post
Im not talking about them leisure one, I mean the ones wear your one defense and you do probably maybe 10 rapidly to get going to get a good gap on the forward..

Im okay on one side, \but the other blows, I seem to push with my toes a lot

Ok, I wrote this in another post but, I think that this might help.

I recommend that you try this at your next stick and puck. Grab the net and pull it back as you skate down the ice. It like have a large balance walker that you can use to adjust balance as you crossover when pull the net backwards.

Now, as you have seen these skating videos above, I need your to grab the cross bar (without your stick) and I want you to adjust the cross bar so that it length of the bar is kind of facing down ice.

Then, what I want you to do is turn your body in such a way so that you are facing the cross bar. Then you are going to pull the cross bar closer to you to cause the net to move, once the net starts to move, I want you to do two cross over as you pull the net.

I'd like for your to pull the net as you cross over so that the net is amost facing the other direct, about 180 from what you started. At that point, I want you to make sure that your balance is stable with the weight distributed between both legs. This is called the "transition" between cross overing between one way to the other.

Once you have this transition performed, then I want you to cross over in the other direction by pulling the net with you as you cross over. The net should be back to the initial starting point where the net is back about 180 so that the cross bar lenght is facing down the ice.

Then just repeat down the ice. What this is going to do is help use those big large crossovers edge work. Once your get use to the technique, then you can reduce the amount of angle that you place on the net for balance.

Once you have this down, remove the net and increase the speed. Donn't forget to keep your balance. Start off slow, then increase the speed and you skate backwards.

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That first video is old school and awesome.

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