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02-06-2010, 01:46 PM
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Trading Vokoun is the last thing the panthers would even consider

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Trading Vokoun is the last thing the panthers would even consider
youd be quite suprised. at this moment in time yes, but when were out of the playoff picture. he will be fair game.

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The Panthers will never make the playoffs if they keep getting rid of their best players.
The reason we have had such trouble of getting into the playoffs is that we never get enough/mismanage our highest valued assets. Bouw, Louie, Jokinen all could have been traded earlier than they were for a significantly better return.

Bouw got us Leopold who probably could have been signed during free agency anyway.
Jokinen got us Ballard who has stunk this year and Boynton who just cleared re-entry waivers.
Louie got us Allen, at best a second pairing d-man. Bertuzzi- who we traded for for Matthias who looks like he might have second line center potential.

Those trades are the main reason for our struggles. We can't risk failing to get fair value for a guy who will be a UFA at the end of next season therefore trading him now when his value is the highest makes the most sense.

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02-06-2010, 01:55 PM
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Let's don't overrate Markstrom.
OK. maybe you should watch a game of his in brynas.

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I definitely think they should trade him. If he's going to leave when his contract is up you have to trade him now. It's not like the Panthers need him for next year.

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02-06-2010, 02:07 PM
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dont touch vokoun he is ours and will break all the records of the panthers if you want him it will cost you a franchise goaltender

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The reason we have had such trouble of getting into the playoffs is that we never get enough/mismanage our highest valued assets. Bouw, Louie, Jokinen all could have been traded earlier than they were for a significantly better return.

Bouw got us Leopold who probably could have been signed during free agency anyway.
Jokinen got us Ballard who has stunk this year and Boynton who just cleared re-entry waivers.
Louie got us Allen, at best a second pairing d-man. Bertuzzi- who we traded for for Matthias who looks like he might have second line center potential.

Those trades are the main reason for our struggles. We can't risk failing to get fair value for a guy who will be a UFA at the end of next season therefore trading him now when his value is the highest makes the most sense.
NEXT season.

That's not THIS season.

It's a loser mentality. You don't trade you best player, let alone franchise player, let alone possible top 5 goalie in the league just because his trade value is high. How do the Panthers ever expect to be good when they get rid of all of their best players in the name of future assets. It's absolutely asinine.

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How about Carlson and Semin for Vokoun and Frolik.
Not even a little bit.

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NEXT season.

That's not THIS season.

It's a loser mentality. You don't trade you best player, let alone franchise player, let alone possible top 5 goalie in the league just because his trade value is high. How do the Panthers ever expect to be good when they get rid of all of their best players in the name of future assets. It's absolutely asinine.
You're missing the point. We waited too long and received crap returns. He may be gone after next season then we'll be getting a crappier return than we'll get now. We cannot afford to lose him for a poor return. It has crippled this franchise.

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Huet, Versteeg/Barker, and our first is a deal I'd be all kinds of down with. Gives Florida a stop gap in net (going forward with a rookie in net is very rarely a wise decision), a capable second liner/talented puck mover under 25 and a late first to help the rebuild.

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Huet, Versteeg/Barker, and our first is a deal I'd be all kinds of down with. Gives Florida a stop gap in net (going forward with a rookie in net is very rarely a wise decision), a capable second liner/talented puck mover under 25 and a late first to help the rebuild.
we cant block markstrom with huets contract. that deal is actually good but huet kills it.

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Huet, Versteeg/Barker, and our first is a deal I'd be all kinds of down with. Gives Florida a stop gap in net (going forward with a rookie in net is very rarely a wise decision), a capable second liner/talented puck mover under 25 and a late first to help the rebuild.
Huet's contract is brutal. No thanks.

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Do Florida fans believe that Markstrom is ready yet? Are there no plans for him to spend a year or two as a backup?

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Then use him as your backup. You bring in a talented youngster that's more then NHL ready and a first round pick. Huet has two years after this one. It's not exactly a long term commitment.

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Honestly, expecting a rookie to step in and be your workhorse is not a good idea. There's a long list of very talented goalies that put up gaudy numbers that just didn't hack it at the NHL. And Huet is a mediocre starter, but still a starter.

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The Panthers will never make the playoffs if they keep getting rid of their best players.
True.

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NEXT season.

That's not THIS season.

It's a loser mentality. You don't trade you best player, let alone franchise player, let alone possible top 5 goalie in the league just because his trade value is high. How do the Panthers ever expect to be good when they get rid of all of their best players in the name of future assets. It's absolutely asinine.
And true.

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Do Florida fans believe that Markstrom is ready yet? Are there no plans for him to spend a year or two as a backup?
Some believe he *might* be ready. IMO, one year in the AHL (next season) and then the year after he should be competing for the starters role. You'll get different answers from different people.

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Honestly, expecting a rookie to step in and be your workhorse is not a good idea. There's a long list of very talented goalies that put up gaudy numbers that just didn't hack it at the NHL. And Huet is a mediocre starter, but still a starter.
If his contract wasn't so expensive and long then maybe we would want him but that contract is horrible.

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You build from the goal out. Trading Vokoun is just asinine.

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Chicago: Huet, Versteeg
Florida: Vokoun+?
Huet + Versteeg for Vokoun would be 100% supported by me and everyone else that is a Blackhawk fan

Hell lets expand it

Huet + Versteeg + Barker for Vokoun and Leopold

Hawks get a great goalie and solid dman

The Panthers get a young top 6 RW/LW who can also play some C. A offensive dman to add to there defense and a goalie that can be your #1A/1B with Markstrom for next 2 yrs.

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You build from the goal out. Trading Vokoun is just asinine.
Except I pointed out that he may very well walk after next season. Our history of dealing with our best players is a poor one that has led to terrible returns which have hurt this franchise. The mistake cannot be made again.

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You build from the goal out. Trading Vokoun is just asinine.
we are.... markstrom. vokoun has to go sooner or later hes 33.

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Huet + Versteeg for Vokoun would be 100% supported by me and everyone else that is a Blackhawk fan
Of course it would. Huet has an awful contract. That isn't a fair trade.

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Of course it would. Huet has an awful contract. That isn't a fair trade.
Huet makes almost the same amount as Vokoun and has 1 extra year

For all the crap we give Huet he is a serviceable #1. He would be a fine caretaker goaltender while Markstrom adjusts to NHL

Next year Huet can play 50 or so games and Markstrom get his feet wet and play 30 ish games.

Then in 2011-12 Markstrom takes #1 slot with Huet moving into a 1B type situation.

Huet is a good lockerrom guy and has handled sharing duties with Khabby and Niemi here very well.

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Huet makes almost the same amount as Vokoun and has 1 extra year

For all the crap we give Huet he is a serviceable #1. He would be a fine caretaker goaltender while Markstrom adjusts to NHL

Next year Huet can play 50 or so games and Markstrom get his feet wet and play 30 ish games.

Then in 2011-12 Markstrom takes #1 slot with Huet moving into a 1B type situation.

Huet is a good lockerrom guy and has handled sharing duties with Khabby and Niemi here very well.
We have Clemmenson signed for the next two years. We can't afford it. Huet has one year too many on his contract. Its simply too expensive.

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