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01-25-2017, 12:51 PM
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2017 NHL Draft




The Ducks prospect discussion thread was getting some draft-related posts, so I figured I'd make an actual thread for the draft-related stuff. Here are a couple of recent prospect ranking lists, in case anyone's interested in those:

Craig Button - TSN
Hockeyprospect.com
NHL midterm rankings
Mike Morreale - NHL.com
Adam Kimelman - NHL.com

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01-25-2017, 02:13 PM
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As of today there are a handful of forwards I would like to see us pick (assuming we are in the 22-30 range): Chmelevski, Mattheos, Lind, Bowers, Anderson-Dolan.

Not looking like a great draft overall but still some nice pieces. Considering we have three picks in the top 60 as of now I'm watching a lot of CHL games. Will update this thread occasionally with scouting reports if people are interested.

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Is this a draft where trading down might be a good idea?

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01-25-2017, 03:32 PM
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Is this a draft where trading down might be a good idea?
I would say yes.

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Is this a draft where trading down might be a good idea?
As usual, it depends a lot of what's available to us, as there are a lot of good players ranked in the mid-to-late first round. Personally I'd love to add one of Cody Glass, Martin Necas or Nick Suzuki to our prospect pool. As other posters mentioned in the prospect thread, however, their rankings are on the rise and they could end up going way before our pick.

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Glass is 6 feet 2, 17 years old, and has scored 64 points in 46 games. No shot he falls past 15 IMO

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Glass is 6 feet 2, 17 years old, and has scored 64 points in 46 games. No shot he falls past 15 IMO
He's starting to rise in mocks and rightfully so. He's one of the best in the dot in the entire WHL. I think 15 is right around where he will go.

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Seems like we need to grab another goalie with some NHL potential.

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01-25-2017, 04:40 PM
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Seems like we need to grab another goalie with some NHL potential.
With only one real goalie prospect in the pipeline that's a smart idea. Thankfully this draft has some great to good goalie prospects to restock that pipeline.

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Has us taking glass I don't think he'll be available tho

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He's starting to rise in mocks and rightfully so. He's one of the best in the dot in the entire WHL. I think 15 is right around where he will go.
Where do you find these stats?

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Is this a draft where trading down might be a good idea?
I think we have some really good scouts, and I think they'll have some players if available at that pick we will take but if not I can see us moving down and getting 2 players we were interested in.

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Where do you find these stats?
I've watched a lot of Winterhawks this season. I know there's an advanced stats site for the WHL (DubNetwork) that's helpful too.

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Sasha Chmelevski
Nick Suzuki
Martin Necas
Kristian Vesalainen

I like a lot

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Sasha Chmelevski
Nick Suzuki
Martin Necas
Kristian Vesalainen

I like a lot
I'm definitely on board with you about Suzuki and Necas. Don't know that much about Chmelevski, but based on the rankings I've seen I believe he's more like a second round draftee.

Personally, I don't like Vesalainen at all. I think he's one of those "no toolbox" kind of players.

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I've watched a lot of Winterhawks this season. I know there's an advanced stats site for the WHL (DubNetwork) that's helpful too.
Oh okay.. neither the DubNetwork nor the WHL's website has faceoff winning % stats so I was curious if you were basing that off more than just the eye test. Carry on

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Watching the prospect game.... Lot of talent. Not so sure the draft is as weak as people think.

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I really like Bowers and he should be in our range

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At first I felt Suzuki looked like an Etem-type of player. Lots of speed, very fast first steps, good hands - but no defensive side to his game whatsoever as well as a penchant for getting beaten by stronger defenders time and again.

But he surely has the smarts -unlike Etem- and vision to circumvent these situations. I am thoroughly impressed by his skill set and feel that he not only has the tools, but the toolbox (he is said to have superb work ethic) to become a legitimate first or second line player in the NHL.

The only thing scaring me a bit with him is that he is a learned center, even though his game certainly looks a lot more like a winger on either side of the dot. Getting him to learn a new position, preferrably LW (where I view him in the long run on any given team) might be somewhat of a difficult and long-ranging task.

Nevertheless, I would like to hold onto our pick as long as we could get Suzuki. If he's gone before, try to trade down and reach a second and a third or something like that in order to draft one, maybe two, goalie prospects in the second or third rounds.

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DiPietro looked really good too. Probably the best goalie in this draft.

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DiPietro looked really good too. Probably the best goalie in this draft.
With this name, I don't know

Nevertheless, he is not tall enough for modern standards.

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DiPietro looked really good too. Probably the best goalie in this draft.
Jake Oettinger says hello. With those stats and that size, there's no way he isn't the #1 ranked goalie in the draft.

DiPietro is probably ranked somewhere in the same tier as these guys (no particular order):

Keith Petruzzelli
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
Olle Eriksson Ek
Dayton Rasmussen
Stuart Skinner
Arvid Söderblom

Czech goaltender Tomas Vomacka is probably the biggest wild card goalie in the entire draft. He has good size and great stats, but he plays in the NAHL (first time I've ever heard of this league lol), so it's very hard to predict what his actual level of performance is.

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Bob McKenzie just released his mid-term top 80 draft list, along with a rather lengthy text of his thoughts of the draft so far.

Necas 8th overall, Glass 14th overall and Suzuki 27th overall.

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Jake Oettinger says hello. With those stats and that size, there's no way he isn't the #1 ranked goalie in the draft.

DiPietro is probably ranked somewhere in the same tier as these guys (no particular order):

Keith Petruzzelli
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
Olle Eriksson Ek
Dayton Rasmussen
Stuart Skinner
Arvid Söderblom

Czech goaltender Tomas Vomacka is probably the biggest wild card goalie in the entire draft. He has good size and great stats, but he plays in the NAHL (first time I've ever heard of this league lol), so it's very hard to predict what his actual level of performance is.
I haven't watched enough of Boston University to get a read on Oettinger but DiPietro has been so good for Windsor.

Goalies are so hard to project so I can't disagree with you.

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