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02-06-2010, 04:59 PM
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Henrik Lundqvist

Considered untradable by many Rangers fans because we have no one waiting in the wings to take his spot. It's my opinion that Hank's value to the Rangers is more than what the Rangers would receive in any trade involving him.

I'm just curious as to what the Rangers could realistically expect to fetch if they for whatever reason put him on the block.

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02-06-2010, 05:03 PM
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I would think the return would be some like
Starting Goalie
A Prospect
1st Round Pick
And maybe a top 6 forward depending on the goalie they are taking back

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I think he is the only untouchable on the Rags' roster

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why as the OP states--if he has more value to the team then they could get--then why bother with a value of thread?

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02-06-2010, 05:41 PM
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why as the OP states--if he has more value to the team then they could get--then why bother with a value of thread?
Curiosity. See what the demand, if any, is out there for him at this point in his career.

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02-06-2010, 05:43 PM
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No sense to trade the franchise goalie for a mediocre guy on his way out and a checker (?).

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The "curiosity" shouldn't matter.... The answer, there is no deal that could possibly happen that would make sense for the Rangers. Why, because no team is going to offer up their best player and then some. There is a group of players in every major sport that are in a category of not trade material because a "fair" deal would never arise itself

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02-06-2010, 07:34 PM
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Montreal trades Price Pleks A n S Kostitsen n 1st For Hank n Voros


I dont really cheer for either team, But this one came to me when looking at what someone suggested as the grounds to the Proposal. Starting Goalie, Top 6 Forward, Scoring Forwards (depends on opinion if you rate either Top 6) and a 1st.
Montreal gets a True #1 guy, and a lil offsetting salary (Tough Guy for Toronto games)

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Montreal trades Price Pleks A n S Kostitsen n 1st For Hank n Voros


I dont really cheer for either team, But this one came to me when looking at what someone suggested as the grounds to the Proposal. Starting Goalie, Top 6 Forward, Scoring Forwards (depends on opinion if you rate either Top 6) and a 1st.
Montreal gets a True #1 guy, and a lil offsetting salary (Tough Guy for Toronto games)
Id do it, price or halak either one as the option in the trade.

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02-06-2010, 11:22 PM
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I think it's a shame his prime years are being wasted on a mediocre team. Besides the obvious rivalry I like Henrik's game a lot. He can steal you a game and is a rock in the net. He runs into trouble like any other goalie but for the most part he could easily bring a good team to a Cup. Imagine him on the Blackhawks or the Caps right now? My god...

As for a trade I would think something like..

Starting Goaltender
Top 6 Forward
2 Prospects
1st round pick

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02-06-2010, 11:30 PM
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I think it's a shame his prime years are being wasted on a mediocre team. Besides the obvious rivalry I like Henrik's game a lot. He can steal you a game and is a rock in the net. He runs into trouble like any other goalie but for the most part he could easily bring a good team to a Cup. Imagine him on the Blackhawks or the Caps right now? My god...

As for a trade I would think something like..

Starting Goaltender
Top 6 Forward
2 Prospects
1st round pick
Easily a strong contender and probably the clear favourites, depending what would come back the other way.

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How About

Thomas
Krejci
Hamill
Toronto 2nd 2010

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How About

Thomas
Krejci
Hamill
Toronto 2nd 2010
Terrible.

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theordore
nevy
osala
first round pick 10

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theordore
nevy
osala
first round pick 10
Henrik is the Rangers Ovie. Would you trade Theodore , Nevy, osala and a bottom 1st rounder for Ovie

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02-07-2010, 01:11 AM
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sather isnt moving lundqvist, theres no point in a year or 2 we will be a top team with all of our prospects. A team with great players need a great goalie, we already have a great goalie now the rangers just need great players, to be a complete team.

Not every team has great players and a great goalie. Picture Lundqvist with CHI, they would be the islanders in the 80's.

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02-07-2010, 09:10 AM
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Henrik is the Rangers Ovie. Would you trade Theodore , Nevy, osala and a bottom 1st rounder for Ovie
sorry to tell you this, but henrik isnt worth ovie, so please

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sorry to tell you this, but henrik isnt worth ovie, so please
He's not saying he is. He is saying Henrik is to the Rangers as important and Ovie is to the caps...Which is obviously true.

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02-07-2010, 02:09 PM
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Actually I wouldn't really mind the Rangers trading Lundqvist, although if they were gonna, it should have happened earlier in the season allowing us more time to tank. He's been the only thing stopping the Rangers from Taylor Hall. On that note, I wouldn't just trade Lundqvist for the hell of it; the ransom would be enormous. Something like:

Young goalie to take Hank's place
A top 6 forward (not talking like Kovalchuk, but more along the lines of a 2nd line winger)
2 top prospects
1st round draft pick (somewhere under 15 too)

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Probably something along the lines of

Krejci
Rask
Stuart
and maybe even a 1st rounder...

It's a lot to pay, but he's an elite goalie.

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02-07-2010, 02:41 PM
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This is dumb, he'll never be moved, nor should he. He's not the problem with the team, he's one of the solutions, and one of the only bright spots.

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02-07-2010, 02:43 PM
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I'll never understand the people that think tanking is the only way to win.

You tank to get a Lundqvist, you don't trade him away to try again.

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02-07-2010, 02:54 PM
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The OP did say that he is "untradable" and just wanted to see what teams would give up. So I don't understand people saying "he is untradable, I don't know why we are discussing this?"

We are because the thread asks out of curiosity what would you give up haha we know he is staying in NY.

As for what needs to be given up for him,

#1 goalie, (decent, low contract)
high end defensman (to make up for the loss of an amazing goalie)
top 6 forward
2 prospects (one high, one low)
1st round. can be late because of the 2 prospects.

Lundqvist is an elite goalie and will have a very high price.
Like a poster said earlier, he is as valuable to the Rangers (and really, any team he plays on) as Ovi is to the Capitols. Every game he plays he is a game changer.

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02-07-2010, 03:16 PM
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Only deal I would consider as a Rangers fan would be Crosby and Fleury for Lundqvist, Dubinsky, and Jokinen. The #1 option would be Ovie but no way would WSH trade him.

Rangers get the #1 C and a starting goalie.

Pitts can have Malkin as #1, Jokinen as #2 C, Dubi as winger and Staal as a #3 C.

Dubi can do what Staal does at more than 50% lower than Staal's salary. Pit can trade Staal to help another position and use that cap in a more needed area.

Rangers trade 13.975M

Pits trade 13.7M

I would also like to add that by trading Staal's salary and Jokinen's expiring contract. Pit can have the option in signing 2-3 guys with that or using that money to try to sign Kovalchuk.

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Only deal I would consider as a Rangers fan would be Crosby and Fleury for Lundqvist, Dubinsky, and Jokinen. The #1 option would be Ovie but no way would WSH trade him.

Rangers get the #1 C and a starting goalie.

Pitts can have Malkin as #1, Jokinen as #2 C, Dubi as winger and Staal as a #3 C.

Dubi can do what Staal does at more than 50% lower than Staal's salary. Pit can trade Staal to help another position and use that cap in a more needed area.

Rangers trade 13.975M

Pits trade 13.7M

I would also like to add that by trading Staal's salary and Jokinen's expiring contract. Pit can have the option in signing 2-3 guys with that or using that money to try to sign Kovalchuk.
I really don't think Pittburgh would ever do this, though.

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