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02-07-2010, 09:58 PM
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I think Souray has looked disinterested the times I have seen the Oilers this year.

I'm all for athletes making as much money as they can. But I think that also requires them to play like they care.
this is true, but so has the entire team... dustin penner looks completely disinterested

the only player that is really showing anything is Sam Gagner

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02-07-2010, 09:59 PM
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In this case, I think it goes to the topic at hand.

I question the commitment to winning of anyone who lets substance abuse take over their life, and possibly affect their performance on the ice. And I have a problem when someone who did that takes a shot at someone else's professional commitments.
I agree with this totally. I've got nothing against Daneyko, but when I guy who struggled with substance abuse during his career calls out another player's commitment, it's the pot calling the kettle black.

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In this case, I think it goes to the topic at hand.

I question the commitment to winning of anyone who lets substance abuse take over their life, and possibly affect their performance on the ice. And I have a problem when someone who did that takes a shot at someone else's professional commitments.
i doubt you know **** about the nature of addiction. someone who lets substance abuse take over their life? are you kidding me? get a a clue man some people who struggle with addiction would tear you to pieces for remarks like that. you shouldn't make comments like that until you truly understand what you are talking about. you are embarrassing yourself and insulting many others. I STRONGLY suggest you not talk about addicts so pejoratively. get off your high horse

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02-07-2010, 10:41 PM
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I think Souray has looked disinterested the times I have seen the Oilers this year.

I'm all for athletes making as much money as they can. But I think that also requires them to play like they care.
Agreed. That last game he played when he injured his wrist was the worst game I've ever seen him play.

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Kenny was teammates with the man so maybe he knows something we don't. However, I don't think it was cool to say that publicly.

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I would not go as far as did Daneyko, but I do find the list of teams confusing. On the one hand, he's expressed a preference to play near his estranged family, while on the other, there is a smattering of ultra-competitive teams smack on the Eastern seaboard, as far as humanly possible from his family. The list seems a little haphazard.

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I wonder if this has anything to do with the Rangers being on Souray's list of teams he'd accept a trade to.

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02-08-2010, 09:46 AM
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Daneyko did not mention anything at all about $. His quote was something to the effect of "he is interested in other things more than winning". It was kinda vague liek that, no real substance added to the statemenr. I don't know what thats about, prob the family issue, becuase Sheldon's contract is already signed. no matter where he plays he's making the same aount of money.

I really don't know Kenny D's basis for the statement.

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Daneyko is right.

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I think Souray has looked disinterested the times I have seen the Oilers this year.

I'm all for athletes making as much money as they can. But I think that also requires them to play like they care.
SS is recovering from an concussion from early in the year, and I think it's impacting his play. The Oilers are such a train wreck, and no one is going to look good when the team is struggling that bad. That's something that Daneyko should know a lot about considering his first 10 years in the league.

I find it ironic that a former player would call out someone for going someplace to maximize his value? And when the Oilers signed SS, they were only one year removed from playing the Stanley Cup Finals.

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Daneyko is right.
He is. Daneyko was Souray's teammate for 4 years. He should have an idea of what motivates him.

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Daneyko was Souray's teammate. Chances are, he knows more about him than you do.

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Daneyko did not mention anything at all about $. His quote was something to the effect of "he is interested in other things more than winning". It was kinda vague liek that, no real substance added to the statemenr. I don't know what thats about, prob the family issue, becuase Sheldon's contract is already signed. no matter where he plays he's making the same aount of money.

I really don't know Kenny D's basis for the statement.
If that's the case, it could be anything, even caring about his family more than being on a winning team.

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I need to see/hear Daneyko's comments. He may simply making a comment that Souray is preoccupied with other things like family or personal issues. Many here have jumped to the conclusion that Daneyko has questioned Souray's character, but that may not be the case.

And whoever brings up Daneyko's problems is a fool. What does that have to do with this?

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I would not go as far as did Daneyko, but I do find the list of teams confusing. On the one hand, he's expressed a preference to play near his estranged family, while on the other, there is a smattering of ultra-competitive teams smack on the Eastern seaboard, as far as humanly possible from his family. The list seems a little haphazard.
Anaheim and LA were gimmes, but aside from that, all 6 are in pretty big US markets. Souray always struck me as a spotlight kinda guy.

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how did daneyko last in the NHL as long as did? & how did he have his number retired by the devils? his numbers made him seem very replaceable.

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how did daneyko last in the NHL as long as did? & how did he have his number retired by the devils? his numbers made him seem very replaceable.
He was replacable...for a fantasy league team.

This is the NHL. One needs to look beyond the ****ing numbers.

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In this case, I think it goes to the topic at hand.

I question the commitment to winning of anyone who lets substance abuse take over their life, and possibly affect their performance on the ice. And I have a problem when someone who did that takes a shot at someone else's professional commitments.
WOW. You've gotta be either 12 years old or a TV Evangelical. Get off your high horse bud.

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He was replacable...for a fantasy league team.

This is the NHL. One needs to look beyond the ****ing numbers.
Amen.

I'm starting to wonder how much "substance abuse" is going on around these boards. People need to learn to just shut the **** up when they don't know about something. Unfortunately, they instead prefer to look like idiots just so they can get their post count up.

To answer the original, brilliant question, Daneyko's name is in the rafters because he represents how hard work, dedication and loyalty to the team (regardless of personal stats) gets rewarded. His name is up there so that all the guys who most people on these boards would call plugs (or "useless") understand that they are appreciated and that their contributions win championships even if most of these armchair GM's don't notice it, the Devils do.

That's what being a team first organization is all about.. at least that's what its like when you actually practice what you preach unlike some other organizations.

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Amen.

I'm starting to wonder how much "substance abuse" is going on around these boards. People need to learn to just shut the **** up when they don't know about something. Unfortunately, they instead prefer to look like idiots just so they can get their post count up.

To answer the original, brilliant question, Daneyko's name is in the rafters because he represents how hard work, dedication and loyalty to the team (regardless of personal stats) gets rewarded. His name is up there so that all the guys who most people on these boards would call plugs (or "useless") understand that they are appreciated and that their contributions win championships even if most of these armchair GM's don't notice it, the Devils do.

That's what being a team first organization is all about.. at least that's what its like when you actually practice what you preach unlike some other organizations.
would like to think your not making assumptions on me cheech. Its def a rare bird to go the rafters, primarily based soley on a players intangible assets. I'll prb should have just stated that than ask.

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would like to think your not making assumptions on me cheech. Its def a rare bird to go the rafters, primarily based soley on a players intangible assets. I'll prb should have just stated that than ask.
My first paragraph was certainly speaking to a larger audience.. so no I am not insinuating a substance abuse problem on your part, but I did make assumptions about the quality of your question. Perhaps different phrasing (as you suggested) would have made the question less.. inflammatory to me.

Yes, he is a "rare bird" to go to the rafters, but the Devils are a rare organization.

also.. cheech?

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Amen.

I'm starting to wonder how much "substance abuse" is going on around these boards. People need to learn to just shut the **** up when they don't know about something. Unfortunately, they instead prefer to look like idiots just so they can get their post count up.

To answer the original, brilliant question, Daneyko's name is in the rafters because he represents how hard work, dedication and loyalty to the team (regardless of personal stats) gets rewarded. His name is up there so that all the guys who most people on these boards would call plugs (or "useless") understand that they are appreciated and that their contributions win championships even if most of these armchair GM's don't notice it, the Devils do.

That's what being a team first organization is all about.. at least that's what its like when you actually practice what you preach unlike some other organizations.
I'll agree it was a classy move for the Devil's to retire KD's number, but what does that have to do with Daneyko calling Souray out though? So they were teammates for a while 10+ years ago, that give KD the right call him out about wanting to get paid what he can?

I didn't see the comment, so I have no idea what the "tone" was. KD could have just been alluding to the fact that SS wants to remain close to his family (if possible) in a deal, and the basis of the thread (SS is a money grubbing slug) is way off base.

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Of course he is all about the money right now, the Oilers are not winning anything but a 1st or 2nd overall pick right now. Besides Souray isn't even playing right now.


I should also add that Souray does not strike me as a money first guy, until the Oilers started to lose every game he played with a lot of passion.


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Souray is a lot of things, but he is not all about the $$$. Last season when we were ****ting the bed every game Souray always put in a strong effort.

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people with substance abuse problems have no one to blame but themselves! why the hell should we show compassion to alcoholics?

So yah Daneyko is a drunk and Souray is pylon. Everyone happy now?

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