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02-08-2010, 07:06 PM
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So why Hall>>> Price?

Potential is overrated so why is a junior star better then a proven #1 goalie?
I did not say that a junior star was better than an unproven #1 goalie.

If he was a proven #1 he'd be playing would he not?

I'm saying a first overall pick itself has a lot more value. Not the potential myth.

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Eberle straight up or Brule + Cogliano.
No and No. THey are all small smurfy midget-like tiny teeny forwards.

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02-08-2010, 07:07 PM
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Eberle straight up or Brule + Cogliano.
Yes more midgets. Im sure MTL would be all over this

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Only on HF, is where potential is vastly overrated.
Didn't know Hall or Seguin had NHL experience.

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Yes more midgets. Im sure MTL would be all over this
With those guys we could field three full lines of little-people.

follow the yellow brick road....follow follow follow...

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Alex Plante + MPS for Price + 2nd I would do that one, but The Oil wouldnt....

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Price is worth more than Penner?! You habs fans are ridiculous.. he's almost lost his job to Halak and he is extremely inconsistent.. he's simply a headcase.
Until this season you would have traded Penner for an unwashed sock. Price has always been incredibly valuable. If Price is moving we will get back young talented players, think prospects and rookies.

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02-08-2010, 07:11 PM
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I did not say that a junior star was better than an unproven #1 goalie.

If he was a proven #1 he'd be playing would he not?

I'm saying a first overall pick itself has a lot more value. Not the potential myth.
Like I said 1a/1b. He's still played 34 games. So yes I consider a 22 year old with 125 games played with an above average S% and GAA to be a number 1 goalie.

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Only on HF is a junior player worth more then a #1 goalie at 22 with Franchise potential.
Are you kidding?

There's no way any GM would trade their #1 overall pick if they got Carey Price for return.

And I'm a Hab fan.

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02-08-2010, 07:16 PM
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----- Edmonton | Montreal-----

To Edmonton

Carey Price
1st (13-17th Overall)


To Montreal

Dustin Penner
2nd (31st Overall)


Salary is very close, can probably be made post-olympics, if not maybe a salary dump like Paul Mara could be added.


IMO both players have very similar questions, are they the real deal? Can they maintain consistency?

Both have shown flashes of being exceptional players, & IMO both players fill holes in each others line-ups.

I believe this trade also makes sense because Penner is a player entering his prime, and the Canadiens are certainly not rebuilding. Price is still young, and despite his struggles, could be an anchor for the future.
fail.........

I'm a flames fan so i'll play this from edmontons perspective. edmonton has something in penner to be desired ovbiously with his size and skill, the issue is he has nobody to play with. sure price is a great goaltender but look at his season with the defense he has had infront of him. if he were to join edmonton you can only expect more of the same. if the deal were to go down there would need to be some forwards (from edmonton) sent to montreal for some defense

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A couple of Habs fans and one Oilers fan has accepted a trade of Price for Hemsky. Any opinion?

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Are you kidding?

There's no way any GM would trade their Lottery pick if they got Carey Price for return.

And I'm a Hab fan.
Fixed.

I wouldn't trade Price for a top 5 pick. He was a top 5 pick so shouldn't we just wait till he reaches his potential?

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Like I said 1a/1b. He's still played 34 games. So yes I consider a 22 year old with 125 games played with an above average S% and GAA to be a number 1 goalie.
He was 48th last year in Save %. 45th for GAA.

07 08: 23rd in Save %. 40th in GAA.

You said franchise potential. Those aren't exactly franchise potential numbers he is putting up.

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A couple of Habs fans and one Oilers fan has accepted a trade of Price for Hemsky. Any opinion?
As a Habs fan with a conscience i will decline the trade on Edm's behalf. Its overpayment on Edm's side.

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fail.........

I'm a flames fan so i'll play this from edmontons perspective. edmonton has something in penner to be desired ovbiously with his size and skill, the issue is he has nobody to play with. sure price is a great goaltender but look at his season with the defense he has had infront of him. if he were to join edmonton you can only expect more of the same. if the deal were to go down there would need to be some forwards (from edmonton) sent to montreal for some defense
He still has better stats then any goalie in Edmonton...

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02-08-2010, 07:23 PM
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Are you kidding?

There's no way any GM would trade their #1 overall pick if they got Carey Price for return.

And I'm a Hab fan.
Price for Stefan?
Price for Daigle?
Price for Dipietro?
Price for Hamrlik?
Price for Phillips?

#1 overall picks are not always super star studs.

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Fixed.
That is a good point.

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I wouldn't trade Price for a top 5 pick. He was a top 5 pick so shouldn't we just wait till he reaches his potential?
What does Price's draft number has to do with anything? Can we trade David Fischer to Paul Stastny because David was a 1st rounder and Paul a 2nd? It doesn't work like that. Draft position has no meaning after the player is drafted. Besides, due to cap problem we need to make the decision between Price and Halak or we may lose the other for basically nothing.

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02-08-2010, 07:26 PM
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He was 48th last year in Save %. 45th for GAA.

07 08: 23rd in Save %. 40th in GAA.

You said franchise potential. Those aren't exactly franchise potential numbers he is putting up.
Where did you pull those numbers out of?

08'-09'= 31st in S% and 31st in GAA (2nd year slump)

07'-08'= T 6th in S% and 19th in GAA

Tavares has 17 goals i guess NYI should trade him since they aren't "franchise" numbers


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Price for Stefan?
Price for Daigle?
Price for Dipietro?
Price for Hamrlik?
Price for Phillips?

#1 overall picks are not always super star studs.
I meant this years draft. Although I would probably trade Price for Hamrlik right now.

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He still has better stats then any goalie in Edmonton...
ya but with inconsistency playing a factor, and the fact he's going to be on a worse team, id expect his stats to go down again unless that sort of a trade is enough to spark a team, i'd rather stick with deslaurier and keep penner, unless the deal is sweetened for something other than draft picks.

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I meant this years draft. Although I would probably trade Price for Hamrlik right now.
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Price for Stefan?
Price for Daigle?
Price for Dipietro?
Price for Hamrlik?
Price for Phillips?

#1 overall picks are not always super star studs.
Price for Stamkos?
Price for Kane?
Price for Crosby?
Price for Ovechkin?
Price for Kovalchuk?
Price for Nash?
Price for Fleury?
Price for Thornton?

Most of the time they are studs.

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He was 48th last year in Save %. 45th for GAA.

07 08: 23rd in Save %. 40th in GAA.

You said franchise potential. Those aren't exactly franchise potential numbers he is putting up.
Where the hell are you getting your stats from?

In 07/08 he had 2.56 gaa (19th in the league) and a .920 saves percentage which tied him for 6th.

In 08/09 (his off year) he had a GAA 2.83 (31st) and saves percentage of .905 (31st). He had better numbers than 'proven' goalies like Kiprusoff and Giguere.

The kid is 22 years old! How is your 23 year old goalie doing?
.861 saves percentage, 4.17 GAA? But wait, Dubnyk is young and inexperienced right?

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Price for Stamkos?
Price for Kane?
Price for Crosby?
Price for Ovechkin?
Price for Kovalchuk?
Price for Nash?
Price for Fleury?
Price for Thornton?

Most of the time they are studs.
No player in the next draft really dominates like anyone here.

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No player in the next draft really dominated like anyone here.
Hall is similar to Kane, Nash, Stamkos in terms of domination.

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