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02-09-2010, 12:30 AM
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Should we sign Alexandre Giroux this summer?

I know he's 29yrs old.. but hear me out.

He's UFA coming this summer at only $500,000
He's 6'3 202pds
Lots of offensive ability
French to please the French media (i really wouldn't careless, but we are Montreal..)

his stats from the last 3 years are "not including his NHL performance, because his stints were shortly lived":

Stats are taken from http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=43741

AHL

2007-08: (he was with chicago wolves and than hershey bears)
GP - 68
Goals - 33
Assist - 35
Points - 68

2008-09:
GP - 69
Goals - 60
Assist - 37
Points - 97

currently
2009-10
GP - 40
Goals - 26
Assist - 40
Points - 66

Right now if we evaluate our roster and his potential placement... He would be in the same league as Mat. Darche (age:32 UFA this summer), but instead 3 years younger and overall unbelievable stats.

I thought he was an RFA; hence why I never fathomed the possibility of signing him any time soon. True he hasn't proven himself at the NHL level quite yet.. but we would simply be undermining his potential.. he's part of Washington's farm team, a chance for the roster for him at his age is very unlikely.

We wanted to add size, skill and goal-scoring... Pouliot was one of those acquisitions, A. Giroux should be the next!


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02-09-2010, 12:34 AM
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I'd try him out. At worse he helps Hamilton stay a dominant team next year. In fact having a dominant AHL team with a good coach in Boucher might convince him to sign with us if he doesn't require us to promise him an NHL spot. I don't really know if he can settle as a top6 player in the NHL but he can be a good potential temporary callup to replace a skilled guy.

Theres very little to lose in signing him.

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02-09-2010, 12:55 AM
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I took a look at his whole career. He certainly seems to be improving each year. Good find.

1) Is his skating NHL caliber?
2) How is his defense?
3) Is he a good face-off guy?

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Giroux >>>>>>> Darche.

And i like Darche... we should definately go after Giroux.

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02-09-2010, 07:37 AM
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I took a look at his whole career. He certainly seems to be improving each year. Good find.

1) Is his skating NHL caliber?
2) How is his defense?
3) Is he a good face-off guy?
I used to watch him during his 07-08 stint; however, I haven't really followed since with the minor exception of his call-ups last year with Washington. He's a speedy forward and I think can excel in the NHL, but was never really given the opportunity given that he's been with teams that were already stacked
(e.g. Ovechkin/Backstrom/Semin). But from what I can remember, he was good at faceoffs (good = .40 - .50 success rate) and very quick to back check. However, he wasn't used that often so it would be hard to evaluate his defensive play..

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Giroux >>>>>>> Darche.

And i like Darche... we should definately go after Giroux.
i'm not saying that we will trade for him or lose any of our current crop of developing players, but he's an impending UFA come this summer, and we have a ton of RFAs that we will probably be dropping. His cap hit will probably also be a factor in the decision of acquiring him.

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He could turn out to be a solid pickup, but don't expect his size to be noteworthy.

He's a big softy.

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I think he's like Locke, but he would definitely help Hamilton, and be a serviceable callup. He'd pretty much be a better Darche or Glumac.

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He would be a interesting card come trainning camp. Must be something in his game that prevents him from being a regular NHL player. I have not watch him enough to evaluate him and in games I have seen him play, he did nothing that I remember noteworthy (good or bad)

The Caps are a power house now but really after Blackstrom, their centers are no big ticket. Sure Morrison is decent but nothing more than a completing player. There also a few guys on Washington that are putting great numbers that I did not foresee.

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I think he's like Locke, but he would definitely help Hamilton, and be a serviceable callup. He'd pretty much be a better Darche or Glumac.
Another locke, but a bit bigger and faster,could be intresting.But I'd rather have him this week,than next training camp! Washington might not expect much in return for him.And when our real scorers come back,his place on the team will depend on how he played in thier absence.

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Giroux >>>>>>> Darche.

And i like Darche... we should definately go after Giroux.
Darche: 111 NHL games
Giroux: 31 NHL games

When you have the stats Giroux has in the AHL and you don't play more in the NHL, it's because there must be a reason...

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I think he's like Locke
Locke: 5'10
Giroux: 6'3

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Sure why not, if he's available, cheap, accepts playing most of his games in the AHL and if we get rid of some prospect busts in Hamilton I'm all for it.

In all probabilities, I see the Canadiens going after him.

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I know he's 29yrs old.. but hear me out.

He's UFA coming this summer at only $500,000
He's 6'3 202pds
Lots of offensive ability
French to please the French media (i really wouldn't careless, but we are Montreal..)

his stats from the last 3 years are "not including his NHL performance, because his stints were shortly lived":

Stats are taken from http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=43741

AHL

2007-08: (he was with chicago wolves and than hershey bears)
GP - 68
Goals - 33
Assist - 35
Points - 68

2008-09:
GP - 69
Goals - 60
Assist - 37
Points - 97

currently
2009-10
GP - 40
Goals - 26
Assist - 40
Points - 66

Right now if we evaluate our roster and his potential placement... He would be in the same league as Mat. Darche (age:32 UFA this summer), but instead 3 years younger and overall unbelievable stats.

I thought he was an RFA; hence why I never fathomed the possibility of signing him any time soon. True he hasn't proven himself at the NHL level quite yet.. but we would simply be undermining his potential.. he's part of Washington's farm team, a chance for the roster for him at his age is very unlikely.

We wanted to add size, skill and goal-scoring... Pouliot was one of those acquisitions, A. Giroux should be the next!

lock him up long term

like 4 years 8 million .

we can use him on a line with

Darche Gomez Giroux

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Sure why not, if he's available, cheap, accepts playing most of his games in the AHL and if we get rid of some prospect busts in Hamilton I'm all for it.

In all probabilities, I see the Canadiens going after him.
Maybe he's not the good guy to support our young players, like Darche...

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I know he's 29yrs old.. but hear me out.

He's UFA coming this summer at only $500,000
He's 6'3 202pds
Lots of offensive ability
French to please the French media (i really wouldn't careless, but we are Montreal..)

his stats from the last 3 years are "not including his NHL performance, because his stints were shortly lived":

Stats are taken from http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=43741

AHL

2007-08: (he was with chicago wolves and than hershey bears)
GP - 68
Goals - 33
Assist - 35
Points - 68

2008-09:
GP - 69
Goals - 60
Assist - 37
Points - 97

currently
2009-10
GP - 40
Goals - 26
Assist - 40
Points - 66

Right now if we evaluate our roster and his potential placement... He would be in the same league as Mat. Darche (age:32 UFA this summer), but instead 3 years younger and overall unbelievable stats.

I thought he was an RFA; hence why I never fathomed the possibility of signing him any time soon. True he hasn't proven himself at the NHL level quite yet.. but we would simply be undermining his potential.. he's part of Washington's farm team, a chance for the roster for him at his age is very unlikely.

We wanted to add size, skill and goal-scoring... Pouliot was one of those acquisitions, A. Giroux should be the next!

We had him...his name was Yannick Lehoux.

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I took a look at his whole career. He certainly seems to be improving each year. Good find.

1) Is his skating NHL caliber?
2) How is his defense?
3) Is he a good face-off guy?

Here are more stats.

http://www.hersheybears.com/team/index.php

look up Alexandre Giroux. He's a plus every year.

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if he can use that siz to his advantage along with some intensity and physicality then sign him up.

He could work his way up from the 4th line.

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too bad he's not a center

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I'm not opposed to it but really, he's another AHL star who can't hack it at the next level. I wouldn't expect him to get it together now.

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too bad he's not a center
he would be the center of attention ?


could we try him on defense?

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Well. He's an AHL star who's never been able to translate that into success at the NHL level. So for the Bulldogs, sure sign him. Not worth much of a discussion for the NHL level though. I doubt he's the kind of guy who you want on the 3rd/4th lines due to his soft play and he's not going to crack the top six.

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Maybe he's not the good guy to support our young players, like Darche...
It's a good point, but it's a maybe also.

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Of course there must be some sort of setback keeping him out of the NHL thus far.. but cmon.. this guy can show consistency in the AHL, and we are relying on the likes of our farm team to back us up yet they haven't even proven themselves in the AHL or NHL... I'd rather have someone that can potentially translate his game from one league to another (Giroux has showed consistency all-throughout his hockey career), than someone who just doesn't show up at all and for sure will not hit a higher ceiling (aka Lapierre, D'Ago, Max Pac, etc.)

Don't get me wrong, I love those guys but i'm losing my patience with them.. at the very least he's a cheap pick up and can POTENTIALLY grow to his abilities in our line up rather than just having us HOPE the current invisible players in our line up can live up to their potentials.

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He was a UFA last year and only Washington showed interest, I think he is on a 2-way deal that pays him almost 300K in the minors. No NHL teams offered him a 1-way, there is obviously something that NHL teams know that we don't.

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[QUOTE=Kyosuke;23780667] I'd rather have someone that can potentially translate his game from one league to another (Giroux has showed consistency all-throughout his hockey career), than someone who just doesn't show up at all and for sure will not hit a higher ceiling (aka Lapierre, D'Ago, Max Pac, etc.)QUOTE]

You'd rather have Giroux than Pacioretty? Are you kidding?

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