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03-03-2010, 02:46 PM
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Trade deadline is over and... Sather does nothing!

What was worst thing sather could have done today? nothing of course.

And thats exactly what hes done. Not like Newbury will make any earth shattering addition to the team.

Were not good enough as currently constructed to even make the playoffs, but werent that far off, were also not that far off from being a bottom feeder...

What do you guys think about this? Personally im flippin' pissed.

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03-03-2010, 02:48 PM
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Hard to blame Sather for not doing anything since we have no idea what other GMs were asking from him.

He could have done a pretty damn good job for all we know, glad he didnt have an itchy trigger finger only to get ripped off in a trade.

And Sather already made his splash when he got rid of Kotalik and Higgins for Jokinen, which was a good trade.

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snooze fest.

Fire sather rally just got a little more interesting

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i'm quite pissed too.....

1) We suck right now.......either sell or buy.....but DONT do nothing.

2) Perhaps based on asking prices of the players we were interested in.....sather felt that the players going the other way would have hurt us more than helped us.

3) I simply cant beleive we coud not some how unload one of our terrible contracts.............oh well, maybe getting rid of kotalik's 3 year deal was the best we could do.

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He COULDN'T do anything (save Prospal).

Nobody wanted our crappy (to put it lightly) contracts/players... no-one wants to rehab our failed experiments... no-one thinks a change of scenery would benefit ANY of our garbage.

Sather COULD have sent Prospal somewhere... that I'm sure of.

That's the only indicment you could make of him regarding today.

(Feel free to bash him for constructing the myriad of issues also mentioned... but today you could only fault him for not taking advantage of an opportunity in Prospal)

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Worst thing he could have done was make a stupid trade, which he didn't. He didn't make any useless lateral trades. I'm glad for that.

Could he have improved the team? Maybe, but probably at the expense of trading Callahan.

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Hard to blame Sather for not doing anything since we have no idea what other GMs were asking from him.

He could have done a pretty damn good job for all we know, glad he didnt have an itchy trigger finger only to get ripped off in a trade.
What the hell are you talking about. Woijtek wolski was traded for PETER MUELLER whos value is at an all time low and a prospect.

You dont think slats could have beat that?

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Sather could have done MUCH MUCH worse than doing nothing. Backman and Bozolinsch come to mind right away.

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Better that he made no deals than accepting a bad deal or selling for the sake of selling. Prospal for a 2nd rounder? No thanks. Not when we're battling for a playoff spot and 2nd rounders are hardly a guarantee to be an NHL starter. If other teams were talking Callahan, Staal, Dubinsky, etc... then I'm glad he did nothing.

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Rangers have a 2nd minor league deal coming, but they didn't surrender core youngsters or top prospects for middling rentals.That's a plus

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What the hell are you talking about. Woijtek wolski was traded for PETER MUELLER whos value is at an all time low and a prospect.

You dont think slats could have beat that?
Again, you have no idea what value the aves think peter mueller has or what they think of any of our guys. Based on Sather's track record in this area it's not fair to criticize him like this.

If you think he should have gotten rid of prospal for anything, fine but we all know the Rangers don't sell when there is a shot at the playoffs and that'd be the same no matter who is gm.

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im pissed girardi didnt go anywhere because i dont think we sign him in the off season.

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First, everyone wants to resign prospal, but how would trading him benefit the rangers in resigning him. There are very few players who get traded away from a team, and then go back in the offseason to said original team.

Second, do you really think that Sather wasnt trying to move roszival, redden, bad contracts? Kudos to other teams general managers to not getting fleeced with our garbage.

Third, this i think this is a good scenario. We sneak into the playoffs, where anything can happen. OR we finish around where we are now, which because of how good the west is we finish with a top ten pick.

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What was worst thing sather could have done today? nothing of course.

And thats exactly what hes done. Not like Newbury will make any earth shattering addition to the team.

Were not good enough as currently constructed to even make the playoffs, but werent that far off, were also not that far off from being a bottom feeder...

What do you guys think about this? Personally im flippin' pissed.
I'm not here to criticize Slats, or praise him. But this statement is false.

No matter what you think of the current Rangers' roster:

Have you seen Boston?

Have you seen Montreal?

Have you seen Tampa Bay?

It's not a stretch at all to think that the Rangers could, for examples, be ahead of those teams by the end of the season.

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Hard to blame Sather for not doing anything since we have no idea what other GMs were asking from him.

He could have done a pretty damn good job for all we know, glad he didnt have an itchy trigger finger only to get ripped off in a trade.

And Sather already made his splash when he got rid of Kotalik and Higgins for Jokinen, which was a good trade.
^ best post in this thread. Some people would complain about Sather no matter what he did.

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What the hell are you talking about. Woijtek wolski was traded for PETER MUELLER whos value is at an all time low and a prospect.

You dont think slats could have beat that?
Wolski for Mueller? Who freaking cares? How is Mueller doing this year? He's got 4 goals in 50+ games. I don't want his underperforming ass here either.

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It's a little boring, but thank God he didnt make any panic moves.

He's made very good moves since opening night: Jokinen, Christiansen, Prust and Shelley all address needs.

While I would have liked to see him get a 3rd rounder, it's obvious the 4 wins in the last 5 games (3 against elite teams), the emergence of Roszival as a leader of the d-corps, and balanced scoring from 3 lines makes him think he can meet Dolan's "Playoffs a must" edict with the current team.


For once, we have to give credit to Sather for not making a deal for the sake of making a deal.

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I'm glad we still have Dubinsky and Callahan more than I'm upset about the lack of action. Maybe the deals just weren't there. Maybe nobody was willing to pay a decent price for Prospal. Whether or not we should have traded him for a pick is debatable but there comes a point where its not worth it. A third rounder? Fourth rounder? Who knows what was offered?

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Again, you have no idea what value the aves think peter mueller has or what they think of any of our guys. Based on Sather's track record in this area it's not fair to criticize him like this.

If you think he should have gotten rid of prospal for anything, fine but we all know the Rangers don't sell when there is a shot at the playoffs and that'd be the same no matter who is gm.
Obviously not much if he was considered being moved for sanguenetti at one point.

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Disappointed they didn't move Prospal for a pick, but, if they couldn't get a #1 for him, what can you do? Didn't expect them to move Jokinen, and Girardi can still be dealt on draft day. Rozsival and/or Redden can be dealt with over the summer. Horton wasn't moved, so I'm not upset a deal for him did not get done. Nothing stupid done in terms of trying to stock up for a playoff. Far too much useless drama on this board.

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Wolski for Mueller? Who freaking cares? How is Mueller doing this year? He's got 4 goals in 50+ games. I don't want his underperforming ass here either.
I dont care about mueller either. Wolski, the YOUNG PROVEN COMMODITY whos on pace for 65 points. Is what im talkin about. And if hes traded for a player whos got 4 goals in 50 games then why the hell couldnt the Rangers have beat that is what im saying.

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Sather was so busy trying to BUY BUY BUY, that he couldnt see what was right in front of his face. There arent any sellers giving up what he wanted. And all that was out there was lateral moves and teams asking him for things he didnt want to give up, so he was forced to stay pat.

On one hand im glad they didnt do anything like give up picks or trade away players like Callahan.

On the other hand, this would have been the PERFECT time to capitalize on a sour market by trading Prospal, Jokinen or others for some great return for the future. He could have easily landed a 2nd +, maybe 2 from all the buyers out there. The Rangers could have 3 more picks right now but instead theyll miss the playoffs and have nothing to show for Prospal when he resigns for too much. Great work Glen!

Wasted opportunity. Recognizing when the moment is right to strike while the rest of the league is going for it didnt register until probably 5 to 3 and it was too late by then.

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Honestly, what did you expect?

Sather wasn't willing to mortgage the future for a first round exit. Dolan wasn't willing to mortgage first round playoff revenue for the future. It was the perfect compromise.

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He's made very good moves since opening night: Jokinen, Christiansen, Prust and Shelley all address needs.
Then why are we in a worse position than before?


If Sather does not give me a speech explaining what the **** he was thinking today I'm going to be at that rally with an automatic rifle.

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