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02-11-2010, 12:15 AM
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have some faith. stranger things have happened
Yeah, like Horcoff finishing with a plus rating.

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Im suggesting its clear that MacT wasnt the problem, & those who thought he was were out to lunch.
That much is clear .
He may not have been "the" problem, but after 8 years of him behind the bench, it was pretty clear he wasn't going to be part of the solution, whatever that turns out to be.

I had no problem with him getting shown the door, but by the same token I'm starting to think that Quinn may not be much of an improvement. I'll concede that much.

Though I do wonder what Quinn would be able to accomplish once a goodly portion of the laughable veteran core is purged, since it seems obvious (at least to me) that Quinn has not won them over.

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02-11-2010, 12:16 AM
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Yeah, like Horcoff finishing with a plus rating.
Give him a break, he made a stellar shot block on a 2nd period Ducks powerplay. Heart personified.

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Im suggesting its clear that MacT wasnt the problem, & those who thought he was were out to lunch.
That much is clear .
It just be nice if someone, anyone, would acknowledge they were out to lunch.
How is it clear? The only time Mactavish faced a lineup that was close to this depleted was when the team went 2-18 after the Smyth trade. Who was in net for that stretch? Certainly wasnt two ahl goalies. I never held him responsible for that so I dont know why you are trying to pin this on Quinn. Maybe you should chew on that before you go on your quest to belittle people?


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have some faith. stranger things have happened

Your overestimating us .This team is beyond atrocious.Looking at the schedule we might not win until we play Toronto in March

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What a dumb game. Two shorties? The **** is that ...

Ducks aren't very impressive either, though obviously everyone looks all-world compared to us.

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02-11-2010, 12:19 AM
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If MacTavish was indeed wringing the best out of this leaky lineup over the previous two seasons (personally, I believe that the Oilers veterans have simply moved past their expiration date) then it's best that he moved on. Trudging forward clinging to 9th and 10th place, hoping for 8th is not the way to go.

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02-11-2010, 12:20 AM
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I wish that I hadn't made that sub-25 win prediction in December. It's looking like it's going to happen; 7 more wins is too tall a task.

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02-11-2010, 12:21 AM
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I wish that I hadn't made that sub-25 win prediction in December. It's looking like it's going to happen; 7 more wins is too tall a task.
The Oilers are not winning more then 25 games this season.



I can this **** team finishing with a record of this at the end of the yr.

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02-11-2010, 12:25 AM
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Your overestimating us .This team is beyond atrocious.Looking at the schedule we might not win until we play Toronto in March
and you are overestimating us in a situation like this. like i said earlier its like a curse. no matter how good the Kings are playing or how bad the opponent is playing the Kings always find a way to break an opposing team's losing streak

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02-11-2010, 12:27 AM
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How is it clear? The only time Mactavish faced a lineup that was close to this depleted was when the team went 2-18 after the Smyth trade. And that was with Hemsky and two nhl goalies. I never held him responsible for that so I dont know why you are trying to pin this on Quinn. Maybe you should chew on that before you go on your quest to belittle people?
Didnt belittle anyone.
If this year doesnt clue one in that the Oilers lineup in the past few years had serious, & I mean serious problems, there is zero convincing anyone.
And Im not pinning this on Quinn. Im pinning it on the sad excuse they have for leadership & talent on this team.
Its clear that MacT wasnt the problem. Some wont man up though. No suprise there.

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Potulny looks like he might be a keeper

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and you are overestimating us in a situation like this. like i said earlier its like a curse. no matter how good the Kings are playing or how bad the opponent is playing the Kings always find a way to break an opposing team's losing streak


You really think this ****** ass team will beat your team.Look at your last 10 games your team is 9-1-0.Look at our last 10 2-8-0 .


The kings will beat us and the game won't even be at all close.

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02-11-2010, 12:29 AM
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Im watching the Oiler games in snips these days...(its better this way)...and each time I pay attention...Brule is taking the puck to the net. Not finishing for goals...but he is going in with authority.

That puts him way ahead of Cogliano on my depth chart.

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02-11-2010, 12:30 AM
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The Oilers are not winning more then 25 games this season.



I can this **** team finishing with a record of this at the end of the yr.

23-52-7
I don't think that they'll incur 50 regulation losses, but they'll be close.

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02-11-2010, 12:31 AM
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Potulny looks like he might be a keeper
His potential contract frightens the hell out of me.

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02-11-2010, 12:32 AM
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I don't think that they'll incur 50 regulation losses, but they'll be close.

It could happen.Looking at our schedule in March,we have to play some hard teams.




Thu, 11 Feb 2010 Oilers Kings
Sun, 14 Feb 2010 Ducks Oilers
Tue, 2 Mar 2010 Oilers Predators
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Sun, 7 Mar 2010 Devils Oilers
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Mon, 15 Mar 2010 Oilers Blue Jackets
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Tue, 23 Mar 2010 Canucks Oilers
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Fri, 2 Apr 2010 Oilers Stars
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Wed, 7 Apr 2010 Avalanche Oilers
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I know we are trying to showcase some vets, but I can't stand seeing Pisani (sp) and Horc out there on the pp over guys like Brule Cogs and MP. If this team is serious about a rebuild it has to start putting the younger guys in more prominent positions. I fail to see why Horc seemingly keeps getting spoon-fed pp minutes, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve them.

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02-11-2010, 12:39 AM
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Eh, they're due (heh) to string together some road wins and they have plenty of road games before the end of the year. I can see the Oly break rejuvinating some of these players as well. Vis and Grebs are the only ones going and a lot of teams have tons of players participating.

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I know we are trying to showcase some vets, but I can't stand seeing Pisani (sp) and Horc out there on the pp over guys like Brule Cogs and MP. If this team is serious about a rebuild it has to start putting the younger guys in more prominent positions. I fail to see why Horc seemingly keeps getting spoon-fed pp minutes, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve them.
It's obvious that they're hoping that Horcoff can string together a point streak so that they can entice some team into taking him. Unfortunately, after what he's shown this season and last, it's a fool's wish. Cut his ice time to virtually nothing, accept the horrible contract and be done with it. Of course, knowing the guy, I can see him sulking and pouting with 8-10 minutes of ice time.

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And Shawn Horcoff finishes at Even par for the day to stay at -31 and atop the leaderboard, but the young gun Patrick O'Sullivan finished with a dramatic birdie on 18 to finish at -28, just 3 strokes back of Horcoff at the Rexall F This Team Open.

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I just wanted to comment on the OP. I really didn't care. It kind of takes all the stress away us Oiler fans go through each year scraping into 8th place. Now instead of gluing myself to the TV, it's "just on" and I get more stuff done. Did my taxes tonight while it was on.

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The last time I experienced this level of "mehness" was the latter part of the 06/07 season and I don't like it. Give me the "stress" any day.

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Yeah, like Horcoff finishing with a plus rating.
LOL awesome, a crappy game by the Ducks however as usual another team squeaks out a win.

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Normally fans from other teams come here & tell us we are going to lose....

We respond rudely telling them we are going to win....

Twilight Zone...........

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02-11-2010, 12:58 AM
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Didnt belittle anyone.
If this year doesnt clue one in that the Oilers lineup in the past few years had serious, & I mean serious problems, there is zero convincing anyone.
And Im not pinning this on Quinn. Im pinning it on the sad excuse they have for leadership & talent on this team.
Its clear that MacT wasnt the problem. Some wont man up though. No suprise there.
Man up to what? I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. Ive done it before on here and no doubt I will do it again. Sorry bud, but Mact was a problem. From poor talent evaluation (using players where they didnt belong or shutting other players out altogether) to poor communication (whipping players specifically in the press by name for vague reasons) to an overall poor record. He had very little experience (just a few years as an assistant and no head coaching experience).

Is Quinn the answer? How can one really tell? Anyone who draws conclusions at this point is either clairvoyant or they are being intellectually dishonest.

If it is your contention that Mact wasnt a problem then I guess his best friend stood by while he got someone else to fire him for no reason. If that is your contention then you should provide evidence to back it up and not general pap like "man up" or "look at the record".

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