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02-15-2010, 11:20 AM
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Highest-picked Kings d-man in 10 years...?

I was reading the 2010 NHL Yearbook and it states for example this about Kings d-men:

"Doughty, the highest-picked Kings' defenseman in 10 years..."

Could someone explain what this means?

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02-15-2010, 11:22 AM
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Its pretty self explanitory...

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I was reading the 2010 NHL Yearbook and it states for example this about Kings d-men:

"Doughty, the highest-picked Kings' defenseman in 10 years..."

Could someone explain what this means?
The highest Dman picked before Doughty was Aki Berg 10 years earlier.

Isn't it scary that Doughty has done more in his career in a year and a half that Berg did in...well too many?

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It means that the Kings found a player who has the potential to be just as good as Aki Berg. I think Drew is a few years away from being as good as Aki, but I'm not sure he'll ever surpass Aki's uncanny ability to strike fear into opposing attackers.

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Its pretty self explanitory...
But who was picked 2nd or 1st? If player is "highest-picked in 10 years", doesn't it mean ten year sago someone was picked higher or as high?

Ie. If Doughty is the first Kings player ever picked as 2nd or 1st, isn't he "highest ever" and not only "highest in X years"?

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But who was picked 2nd or 1st? If player is "highest-picked in 10 years", doesn't it mean ten year sago someone was picked higher or as high?

Ie. If Doughty is the first Kings player ever picked as 2nd or 1st, isn't he "highest ever" and not only "highest in X years"?
The Kings did not pick a defenseman at a higher slot than #3 (Aki Berg in 1995) until they picked Doughty at #2 in the 2008 draft.

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It means that the Kings found a player who has the potential to be just as good as Aki Berg. I think Drew is a few years away from being as good as Aki, but I'm not sure he'll ever surpass Aki's uncanny ability to strike fear into opposing attackers.
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But who was picked 2nd or 1st? If player is "highest-picked in 10 years", doesn't it mean ten year sago someone was picked higher or as high?

Ie. If Doughty is the first Kings player ever picked as 2nd or 1st, isn't he "highest ever" and not only "highest in X years"?
Hickey was picked at 4th..

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But who was picked 2nd or 1st? If player is "highest-picked in 10 years", doesn't it mean ten year sago someone was picked higher or as high?

Ie. If Doughty is the first Kings player ever picked as 2nd or 1st, isn't he "highest ever" and not only "highest in X years"?
The Kings had the 1st overall in 1967, that was the highest pick ever

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Hickey was picked at 4th..
yep , not a great day in kings history on that pick

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The Kings had the 1st overall in 1967, that was the highest pick ever
Was it a d-man they picked?

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The Kings did not pick a defenseman at a higher slot than #3 (Aki Berg in 1995) until they picked Doughty at #2 in the 2008 draft.
It still doesn't make any sense. Why 10 years, why not 13 years then?

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Was it a d-man they picked?
Every Kings draft pick ever is here

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/t...r00006664.html

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It still doesn't make any sense. Why 10 years, why not 13 years then?
I dunno, probably just an arbitrary number thrown out there by the author.

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yep , not a great day in kings history on that pick
Seriously...?

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Hickey was picked at 4th..
One day we'll know. Not today though.

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I was reading the 2010 NHL Yearbook and it states for example this about Kings d-men:

"Doughty, the highest-picked Kings' defenseman in 10 years..."

Could someone explain what this means?
I think they are just taking a time frame and saying that he is the highest defenseman the Kings have selected in the draft in 10 years. He is technically the second highest defenseman the Kings have selected all-time. Pagnutti, the Kings' first draft choice in team history, a first overall, was also a defenseman. Unfortunately for the Kings, he never played a game in the NHL.

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It still doesn't make any sense. Why 10 years, why not 13 years then?
Most likely because the writer did not research anything older than 10 years.

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Seriously...?
I have two thoughts on this one.

At the time it may have made sense due to the fact that D.L wanted to build from the back out and our system lacked prospect depth. He went for a homerun pick who still may suprise us. He had above average years in the WHL, but was not overly good at the world and struggled early on in the AHL prior to injury. Some nights you can see the potential in him, others you see how ordinary he is and with his small stature ordinary won't cut it.

Second thought
Unfortunatly I am not a fan of undersized defenseman. Yes a few make the NHL, but looking at those few they are truely blessed players with a huge skillset. I do not like the fact that he was picked so high and I believe the 4th overall pick in that draft could have brought a better return via trade.

Overall I am hoping he can emerge as an NHL regular but like Teubert I am not going to hold my breath. We have a stud in Doughty and no longer need a #1 dman, and I truely believe JJ has what it takes to be a #2. Can Hickey be a #3-#6 and help on the PP, possibly. Do I think the pick could have been used more benificially - absolutely. Am I a Lombard fan - hell yeah

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Most likely because the writer did not research anything older than 10 years.
In that I case I hope that the writer never writes about hockey again in a release of that level. Anyone writing about a top-level professional team is seriously supposed to either know or to be able to research the history of the team.

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I have two thoughts on this one.

At the time it may have made sense due to the fact that D.L wanted to build from the back out and our system lacked prospect depth. He went for a homerun pick who still may suprise us. He had above average years in the WHL, but was not overly good at the world and struggled early on in the AHL prior to injury. Some nights you can see the potential in him, others you see how ordinary he is and with his small stature ordinary won't cut it.

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Unfortunatly I am not a fan of undersized defenseman. Yes a few make the NHL, but looking at those few they are truely blessed players with a huge skillset. I do not like the fact that he was picked so high and I believe the 4th overall pick in that draft could have brought a better return via trade.

Overall I am hoping he can emerge as an NHL regular but like Teubert I am not going to hold my breath. We have a stud in Doughty and no longer need a #1 dman, and I truely believe JJ has what it takes to be a #2. Can Hickey be a #3-#6 and help on the PP, possibly. Do I think the pick could have been used more benificially - absolutely. Am I a Lombard fan - hell yeah
He did not struggle in the AHL last year during his 7 game stint at the end of the season; he struggled this year, and that was while he was playing with a messed up shoulder. He obviously tries his best to play through injuries, as was the case when he played with torn ligaments in his ankle for Seattle a few years ago.

For being on the shutdown pair at the World's last year he did pretty damn well. He doesn't play as an "undersized" defenseman.

I'm not saying he's the second coming, but to call it a wasted pick not even three years later is extremely shortsighted.

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I am the complete opposite way on "undersized" defenseman. I look at "oversized" defenseman in the league as overrated.. Or at least most of them. Just because you have "size" doesn't make you a good hockey player.

The game is about puck possession as it should be now a days. Thomas Hickey is a good skater and can get the puck up ice, and I can't wait to see him in a Kings uni.

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Actually it was a very good day for the Kings even if Hickey doesnt make it. We already have 2 NHL regulars from that dradt, Simmonds and Mollerand Martinez has had a cup of coffee already, Hickey will be icing on the cake from that draft. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but would you be upset today if Lombardi tooks Simmonds at 4 and Hickey at 61?

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Back to the original post, it is just the nuance of the english language. As stated previouly, the writer should have said "since Berg".

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yep , not a great day in kings history on that pick
Because he's not the "sexy pic" right?

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