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02-12-2010, 05:05 PM
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its not like the journal is any better, Paula Simmons (or whatever her name is) was pretty anti-arena
I thought she wrote a really good article actually.

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Thats how the media runs and operates. Thats why I quit reading MSM news papers. I don't even watch the news often any longer. News isn't news anymore, its entertainment.
Entertainment implies fun.

It's stupid juice.

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02-12-2010, 05:06 PM
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Copy and paste job:

We have a guy who worked his a** off, profited, and he is still being shot down.

He is worth Billions, decided to live here and raise his kids here.

You don't build a 20+ million dollar house in Edmonton for future investment. It means you wan't to live here.

And people, backward people, want to push this guy away.

Shame on you people.

Pathetic.

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02-12-2010, 05:08 PM
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We have a guy who worked his a** off, profited, and he is still being shot down.

He is worth Billions, decided to live here and raise his kids here.

You don't build a 20+ million dollar house in Edmonton for future investment. It means you wan't to live here.

And people, backward people, want to push this guy away.

Shame on you people.

Pathetic.
Just out of curiosity, where are these people trying to run Katz out of town on a rail? There's a world of difference between not supporting a risky taxpayer-funded capital project and launching some kind of socialist revolution against Katz and his ilk.

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I thought MacKinnon has a decent point in an article I saw today...basically said that while being critical of ownership is a good thing, it'd also be a good thing to not get too carried away and have it turn into mindless bashing of the only local Billionaire who was willing to pony up for this club when it went up for sale.

I'm not meaning to lionize the guy, I'm sure he got into this because he saw an investment that was worth making...but I think we'd best not take it for granted. Guys like him in Edmonton don't exactly grow on trees.

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Just out of curiosity, where are these people trying to run Katz out of town on a rail? There's a world of difference between not supporting a risky taxpayer-funded capital project and launching some kind of socialist revolution against Katz and his ilk.
You call hockey related project a risk in a city that is known for hockey?

Brutal

Almost Vancouver anti-Olympic level

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Entertainment implies fun.

It's stupid juice.
I'll go along with that.

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Well, I'll bet that after his involvement with the Horcoff contract and Heatley situations, he's not as involved as he was before.
It's equally valid to speculate the opposite. The fact is, no one knows what his roles and responsibilities are. Which is kind of the point to my set of questions. His (in)actions are creating an information vacuum.

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02-12-2010, 05:13 PM
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You call hockey related project a risk in a city that is known for hockey?

Brutal
No. I'm talking about taking on a massive amount of civic debt in hopes enough new business springs up in the vicinity to pay for said rink.
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Almost Vancouver anti-Olympic level
You mean the olympic that have absolutely no chance of even breaking even?

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To all the posters that refer to specific and non specific portions of Edmonton as Deadmonton or generalize the City as Deadmontonians, please don't. I know you are pointing the comments at people who live in the past and do not want change, but there are some posters on this forum, me included, that are very proud of this city AND want to see the city expand and grow into a world class place to live in. I was painted in High School, because of the way I looked and the music I listened to, as a drug smoking dumb a$$ that wouldn't make much out of my life because I did not conform to the Jocks and Preps vision of appropriateness. It left a bad taste in my mouth so I have always takin people and society for what it is and not pigeonholed everyone into the same group of have's and have nots.

That is the end of my rant

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Thats how the media runs and operates. Thats why I quit reading MSM news papers. I don't even watch the news often any longer. News isn't news anymore, its entertainment.
Bingo.

The newspapers don't care about what they run anymore or whether or not what they print has any negative impact for the city. It's just all about selling papers which is becoming more and more obsolete. So it's no surprise that they sink to these assassination pieces.

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From what I am able to gather--The sun has been trying to get a one on one with Katz and he has not done it

old rule of thumb with the press--if they say no--DOG em out till they say yes

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02-12-2010, 05:22 PM
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We have a guy who worked his a** off, profited, and he is still being shot down.

He is worth Billions, decided to live here and raise his kids here.

You don't build a 20+ million dollar house in Edmonton for future investment. It means you wan't to live here.

And people, backward people, want to push this guy away.

Shame on you people.

Pathetic.
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Who 7 where are these people who want him to go awaay?
What are they that shows that?
Is Katz aware these people exist?

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02-12-2010, 05:24 PM
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You call hockey related project a risk in a city that is known for hockey?

Brutal

Almost Vancouver anti-Olympic level
Again, who are these people?
What are they doing?

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02-12-2010, 05:30 PM
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Wow, terrible article

From the bitter whining commentary about how Katz won't talk to the Sun newspaper(can anyone blame him? ), to the laughable assessments of Oiler prospects Eberle, MPS etc, to the even funnier comment that Mact shouldn't have been fired because he got more out of a crap team(someone should send him a big hint - only one the teams over the last 2 years had a healthy goaltender )

I feel sorry for people who waste a monthly fee on crap like this. A daily sunshine girl doesn't make up for half-assed commentary like that.

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02-12-2010, 05:45 PM
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Do people even actually believe that a rich guy like Katz is involved with little day to day things?

Hilarious

People like him don't "Micromanage"
Katz negotiated personally with Laraque..... Katz negotiated personally with Hossa.... Katz sent out a text to the radio station because fans were bashing MacTavish...

Katz micromanages - the facts prove that.....


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while being critical of ownership is a good thing, it'd also be a good thing to not get too carried away and have it turn into mindless bashing of the only local Billionaire who was willing to pony up for this club when it went up for sale.
Maybe you are living in a parallel world....

What I saw was a team that was not for sale.... So Katz kept raising his offer.... And when some EIG partners offered to sell their share so Katz could become part owner, Katz refused...

He demanded he become sole owner - the EIG owners who did not want to sell were publicly lynched....


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Same DEADMONTONION mentallity.

Screw a guy who made his own fortune. We don't need him. Why would we want a guy like that who chooses to live here?

Pathetic
Were you standing up for the EIG owners who lived here & made their own fortune........

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His assessment of Eberle's numbers versus Gagner without looking at team, league, etc. etc, are pretty embarrassing and very basic. As a writer, that's just lazy and stupid.

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To all the posters that refer to specific and non specific portions of Edmonton as Deadmonton or generalize the City as Deadmontonians, please don't. I know you are pointing the comments at people who live in the past and do not want change, but there are some posters on this forum, me included, that are very proud of this city AND want to see the city expand and grow into a world class place to live in. I was painted in High School, because of the way I looked and the music I listened to, as a drug smoking dumb a$$ that wouldn't make much out of my life because I did not conform to the Jocks and Preps vision of appropriateness. It left a bad taste in my mouth so I have always takin people and society for what it is and not pigeonholed everyone into the same group of have's and have nots.

That is the end of my rant
Thank you very much for your rant. A poster's frequent use of the Deadmonton term has offended me as well.

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He should just buy out the sun...

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Crying because he wasn't invited to the party. Petty. Lame.

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The first paragraph pretty much says it all:

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If the Edmonton Oilers owner is to bring credibility to his franchise and restore confidence in his hockey team, he can't be selective in what media outlet he uses to distribute his message.

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I thought the article had some very good questions at the beginning, but near the end it kinda lost me with queries that either would've been more appropriately directed towards Tambellini, or were outright silly, especially regarding MPS and Lander...Van Diest is supposedly the main guy covering the Oilers for the day-to-day stuff, yet by his "has anybody watched them play" jab I can only surmise that he didnt' watch the WJHC.
Saying how Eberle can help the team when he only had 75 points in his draft year compared to Gagner's 118.

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The first paragraph pretty much says it all:
Exactly, horrendous, bunch of damn babies in the media. I don't care who reports what, eventually anything of interest makes its way to places like this and like OilersNation, places that are a lot less biased and usually filter out a more accurate opinion anyway. The media feel like they're owed something by Katz and the Oil? Are they mad that they have to tune into the radio and listen to Katz like chumps? That they can't ask the burning questions I'm sure they all had waiting to spring on him?

Give me a break Derek Van Diest. Loser. I hope print media goes out the window in this century and the internet takes over. Hopefully idiots like him will be out of a job.

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So once again The SUN has started up the anti-Katz propaganda machine with this gem:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/co...49641-sun.html

It's time this POS rag gets put in their place. Especially their "sports" dept. A bunch of long toothed, lard ***** and young know-nothings.

Edmonton's becoming more of a joke by the day.
I thought it was a pretty good article.

Funny how everyone is still buying into the KLowe - Tambo spin of how much better the scouting - drafting is getting. Really, how many games have MPS and Eberle played in the NHL? Exactly, there gonna have 50 goal seasons in a few years, just like Schremp and Pouliot were suppose to. Gagner, yes, that's right he's a 15 to 20 goal per year man. Kinda remins me of a young F. Pisani.

Nope, the Sun article was bang on!

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The first paragraph pretty much says it all:
Agreed. Katz's interview was nothing more than an infomercial.

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