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02-18-2010, 11:36 AM
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Hartnell(4.2, 3 more years)+Carle(3.437, 2 more years) OR Coburn(1.3, RFA after this season)+Maroon for Vokoun.

This is assuming Emery is hurt and is out for the rest of the season.
Would the Flyers have any interest in Huet?

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02-18-2010, 11:57 AM
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Would the Flyers have any interest in Huet?
With Huet's contract, None.

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I'd rather see Turco than Vokoun. Doesn't Vokoun have some kind of heart condition? It may not be serious but that is a liability, albeit a potentially small one. And I think Turco is the better goalie.

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Huet is a bum, ive always hated him. Id do this deal for Vokoun in a Heartbeat, Hartnell is trash, Richards is better in front of the net, and Hartnell takes horrible penalties all day. I like Leighton, but Vokoun is nasty, dude is on a team who gives up the most shots in the NHL and still has 7 shutouts and incredible numbers every year. Coburn is done at the end of the year, not to mention he has arguably been our worst D man this year, very sloppy this season.

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I'd rather see Turco than Vokoun. Doesn't Vokoun have some kind of heart condition? It may not be serious but that is a liability, albeit a potentially small one. And I think Turco is the better goalie.
Vokoun has OCD and got a blood clot after taking a slapshot to the thigh a few years back, that was it no heart condition. Turco would be a rental, if we really want him we can sign him in the off season.

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With Vokoun in a Flyers uniform you minus well just give Philly the cup

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I'd rather see Turco than Vokoun. Doesn't Vokoun have some kind of heart condition? It may not be serious but that is a liability, albeit a potentially small one. And I think Turco is the better goalie.
Wow.

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I'd rather see Turco than Vokoun. Doesn't Vokoun have some kind of heart condition? It may not be serious but that is a liability, albeit a potentially small one. And I think Turco is the better goalie.
Vokoun is better than Turco in my opinion.

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02-18-2010, 05:09 PM
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I'd rather see Turco than Vokoun. Doesn't Vokoun have some kind of heart condition? It may not be serious but that is a liability, albeit a potentially small one. And I think Turco is the better goalie.
Vokoun >> Turco

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I'd rather see Turco than Vokoun. Doesn't Vokoun have some kind of heart condition? It may not be serious but that is a liability, albeit a potentially small one. And I think Turco is the better goalie.
Just check recent stats, not the case.

I think the Flyers would love to have Vokoun.

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Tvo on the flyers would be pretty insane, think they would be coming out of the east easily

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carter for t-vo & 2011 2nd round pick

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carter for t-vo & 2011 2nd round pick
Getting a goalie like Vokoun would be fantastic. Losing our leading scorer, not so much.

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02-19-2010, 07:56 AM
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Hartnell will never agree to waive his NTC to goto Florida. Yes, we want Vokoun, but Hartnell being the center piece is nearly impossible.

It would have to be something along the lines of Carle + Maroon + . for Vokoun + prospect.

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Hartnell will never agree to waive his NTC to goto Florida. Yes, we want Vokoun, but Hartnell being the center piece is nearly impossible.

It would have to be something along the lines of Carle + Maroon + . for Vokoun + prospect.
Salary cap makes that improbable.

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02-19-2010, 10:50 AM
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Panthers don't want Hartnell and his bad contract plus penalty problems.

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Panthers don't want Hartnell and his bad contract plus penalty problems.
Yea trading Vokoun for the likes of Carle, Coburn or Hartnell makes little sense for the Panthers. And with the Flyers not possessing any top picks or prospects, the idea of Vokoun going to the Flyers just doesn't make much sense.

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You have to remember the Flyers currently have 7 top 6 forwards in the lineup. If moving Hartnell gets a legitimate goaltending threat, you absolutely do it. As for moving Coburn, although he's started to turn it around lately, he's still not playing top 4 minutes. That being said, I agree with you that moving any of the Flyers' requires filling that spot, as I would not be comfortable going into the playoffs with less than 8 NHL capable dmen (this is factoring in that Parent and Syvret will be healthy once back). With all that in mind, I really don't think the Flyers are in position to acquire Vokoun.
Eh, they might have 7 top 6 forwards but other then Carter none of them have been consistent. They pretty much ride the hot line, and for that to work you need as many good forwards as you can get. Plus you have Gagne and Briere who if they aren't already, are very likely to start declining steadily. Trading Hartnell for this season wouldn't be too devastating, but as Gagne and Briere break down and produce less, you pretty much stake your offense on Carter Richards JVR and Giroux, and hope that Legein and Maroon can become good NHL players.

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Tvo on the flyers would be pretty insane, think they would be coming out of the east easily
Eh, not when you consider it would take a major subtraction from our roster to acquire him.

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Eh, not when you consider it would take a major subtraction from our roster to acquire him.
I don't know about major. Flyers haven't been set in goal since Hextall. I think its time they pull the trigger.

Flyer fans would never do this but Carter for Vokoun would be a good trade. You'll be surprised how nice it is to have a great goalie and quickly forget about Carter. If you need a cheap center we could throw in Campbell, Kreps, or even Matthias.

Right now I would rater your team in the following positions;
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With Vokoun and the Loss of Carter

F-7
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Panthers don't want Hartnell and his bad contract plus penalty problems.


Hartnell is right on par with Horton and Booth.

Horton 4.0/year. 153 pts last 3 years.
Hartnell 4.2/year. 138 pts last 3 years.
Booth 4.25/year. 105 pts last 3 years.

He would immediately become Florida's first line RWer. And it's not like he's ancient at 27. And the penalty problems are something that can be coached away. He didn't really have any problems until he started to play under John Stevens.

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I don't know about major. Flyers haven't been set in goal since Hextall. I think its time they pull the trigger.

Flyer fans would never do this but Carter for Vokoun would be a good trade. You'll be surprised how nice it is to have a great goalie and quickly forget about Carter. If you need a cheap center we could throw in Campbell, Kreps, or even Matthias.

Right now I would rater your team in the following positions;
F-8
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G-6.5

With Vokoun and the Loss of Carter

F-7
D-8
G-9
Spoken from a Florida point of view. The Flyers problems this year have been goal scoring, not goal tending.

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I don't know about major. Flyers haven't been set in goal since Hextall. I think its time they pull the trigger.

Flyer fans would never do this but Carter for Vokoun would be a good trade. You'll be surprised how nice it is to have a great goalie and quickly forget about Carter. If you need a cheap center we could throw in Campbell, Kreps, or even Matthias.

Right now I would rater your team in the following positions;
F-8
D-8
G-6.5

With Vokoun and the Loss of Carter

F-7
D-8
G-9
Goaltending is severely overrated on these forums.

Vokoun is a top 5 goaltender in the NHL, but as good as he is, you need to stop throwing out these blatant misconceptions about the Flyers and their goaltending situation.

A good team can make a bad goaltender look good. i.e. Leighton.
A good goaltender can't make bad team look good. i.e. Vokoun

Making our team worse just to upgrade from a 2.19 GAA to a 2.00 GAA and a 0.920 SV% to a 0.930 SV% is not worth Jeff Carter.

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Vokoun is a top 10 goalie in the league and would put the Flyers right up there with the big boys. BUT his age(33) and his contract lower his value.

Coburn + Prospect or two is probably all it would take...

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Vokoun is a top 10 goalie in the league and would put the Flyers right up there with the big boys. BUT his age(33) and his contract lower his value.

Coburn + Prospect or two is probably all it would take...
Salary keep requires a large contract to go back to the Cats. That means a Hartnell/Briere/Gagne is going to have to move to fit Vokoun. Considering all of them have some form of NTC makes this an unlikely endeavour.

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