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02-17-2010, 04:18 PM
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Please for the love of god, please allow this as a way to VOID THE CONTRACT!

Maybe thats why we have been hearing some goalie rumors recently involving the Oilers, no?

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02-17-2010, 04:18 PM
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Ya even in Canada your initial DUI isn't a very serious conviction eventhough all the government commercials and advertising will tell you otherwise.
Really?

I think the fine is whatever (I believe $600-$1200)
minimum 1 year suspension of your Licence
A CRIMINAL RECORD

is pretty serious for a first offense.

Now of course it all depends on what the outcome is. If a person was speeding by a bit and blows over, they would probably get this. Maybe the person forgets to signal, gets pulled over, and it eventually charged.

Now if you go hit somebody, kill somebody, etc, then you will be given a very harsh sentence, etc.

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Assuming that the Oilers used the stock SPC, there is a moral clause in it. You can terminate for conduct amounting to a material breach of the moral clause, but given how many other players have gotten DUIs and kept on playing I think it would be a tough argument to make. The NHLPA would certainly fight it.

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02-17-2010, 04:21 PM
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The "Money will take care of it" comments laughable as well. How does that make sense?

Unless you firectly know a judge dumb enough to let you off after a trial, how does money come into effect.

It helps with a laywer if you can pay 15k-20k for a good one. You still aren't guaranteed anything.

What did Jay-Bo get for almost killing a cop? He got the judgment i wrote above I believe. Probably fine, 1 yr suspension in CAN, and a criminal record.

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At least he didn't try to offer a billion dollar bribe to the offer that pulled him over. That's something, at least.



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02-17-2010, 04:22 PM
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Jay-Bo is rich, etc. He doesn't even have to worry about a criminal record unless he plans to fly overseas and he might not be allowed in the country.

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Really?

I think the fine is whatever (I believe $600-$1200)
minimum 1 year suspension of your Licence
A CRIMINAL RECORD

is pretty serious for a first offense.

Now of course it all depends on what the outcome is. If a person was speeding by a bit and blows over, they would probably get this. Maybe the person forgets to signal, gets pulled over, and it eventually charged.

Now if you go hit somebody, kill somebody, etc, then you will be given a very harsh sentence, etc.
600-1200 dollar fine yep that sucks
You lose your license but if you have logical excuse you can get a blower in your vehicle for a certain price
Criminal record, big deal they pardon that all the time and not too many people I know seem to have problems with this part of it.

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02-17-2010, 04:25 PM
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The "Money will take care of it" comments laughable as well. How does that make sense?

Unless you firectly know a judge dumb enough to let you off after a trial, how does money come into effect.

It helps with a laywer if you can pay 15k-20k for a good one. You still aren't guaranteed anything.

What did Jay-Bo get for almost killing a cop? He got the judgment i wrote above I believe. Probably fine, 1 yr suspension in CAN, and a criminal record.
And what effect has that had on him?

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02-17-2010, 04:26 PM
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600-1200 dollar fine yep that sucks
You lose your license but if you have logical excuse you can get a blower in your vehicle for a certain price
Criminal record, big deal they pardon that all the time and not too many people I know seem to have problems with this part of it.
I believe you are right and it depends on your timing (If you already have a job, etc), but I believe it still takes a good 3-5 years to get it off your record.

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02-17-2010, 04:27 PM
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And what effect has that had on him?
Jay-Bo, with the job he has, money he has, probably isn't effected at all by the charges and suspension.

It can have a mental effect on him I guess. I'm sure the guy regrets it big time.

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02-17-2010, 04:30 PM
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If Khabby just had major back surgery a few weeks ago, how in the world did he get his Ferrarri to Phoenix? A guy with a recently operated back sure as hell isn't driving that distance from Edmonton.

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I believe you are right and it depends on your timing (If you already have a job, etc), but I believe it still takes a good 3-5 years to get it off your record.
Bulin may have problems because he may or may not go back to Russia, but really him being in Arizona kinda tells me he rather live in North America then back at home. To a sports athlete this is generally a pretty minor charge, unless of course they have previous infractions.

I think the other thing is we shouldn't exactly be hanging Bulin out to dry just yet. He has been charged and we really don't know any details. It's pretty sad that we are passing judgement on a guy simply because we want his contract gone.

Even if guilty should we really be saying FU to Bulin?

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02-17-2010, 04:31 PM
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If Khabby just had major back surgery a few weeks ago, how in the world did he get his Ferrarri to Phoenix? A guy with a recently operated back sure as hell isn't driving that distance from Edmonton.
Did he really bring his Ferrari to Phoenix in the first place?

And presumably with his money he would have it shipped back and forth in a truck.

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02-17-2010, 04:32 PM
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just Curious for all this people that are disgusted , etc

Do you hate Grant Fuhr and other players from 80's who used Cocaine?

Khabibulin made a mistake and embarrassed himself , organization and family.

He is still a good guy in my opinion.

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02-17-2010, 04:33 PM
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If Khabby just had major back surgery a few weeks ago, how in the world did he get his Ferrarri to Phoenix? A guy with a recently operated back sure as hell isn't driving that distance from Edmonton.
Not 100%, but he did play in Phoneix years ago so maybe he still has a place there. He also had surgery in LA(?) or somewhere in California. I'm guessing spending his rehab time in Edmonton probably wasn't an option, not that early anyways.

So I don't think that it is odd he is in Arizona, but the rest kinda makes me wonder.

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Meh. When I think about all the other serious offenses both professional athletes and average joe's have participated in. This hardly gets me worked up.

Hell, .08 is not even above the limit in some country's. The guy was not even drunk.

NO, I do not advocate or support drinking and driving. And I can honestly say I have never driven drunk. But I think people are blowing this a little out of proportion.

Its funny to see how worked up the average person gets about something as trivial (trivial in the grand scheme of things) as drinking and driving. When you think about all the other horrible things going on around the world.

Get a grip. Suspension.... yes. Fine.... yes. Criminal record.... yes. Hate and curse the guy off the face of the earth? Give your head a shake.

Just more strain on a fundamentally flawed legal system. Hurrrray!

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02-17-2010, 04:34 PM
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I'll wait to hear everything, but I won't write the guy off if this was his very first time. Of course it's serious, but I'll wait and see what exactly happened.

Rich or not, just plan ahead. Hire a friggin cabbie all night and give him a high flat rate or whatever.

Hire a driver, etc.

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just Curious for all this people that are disgusted , etc

Do you hate Grant Fuhr and other players from 80's who used Cocaine?

Khabibulin made a mistake and embarrassed himself , organization and family.

He is still a good guy in my opinion.
We ran most of the guys that did cocaine in the 00's so who the hell knows. This is more because of his contract, what I'm thinking anyways. The thought crossed my mind as well that maybe here is our out, but I really won't make that critical of a statement until we get the facts.

Seriously if he went out and had 4 or 5 beers I would be okay with it, but if was out at the bar all night doing shooters and getting **** faced then I will have a different opinion.

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The "Money will take care of it" comments laughable as well. How does that make sense?

Unless you firectly know a judge dumb enough to let you off after a trial, how does money come into effect.

It helps with a laywer if you can pay 15k-20k for a good one. You still aren't guaranteed anything.

What did Jay-Bo get for almost killing a cop? He got the judgment i wrote above I believe. Probably fine, 1 yr suspension in CAN, and a criminal record.
Anyone who has had a DUI will tell you that the justice system is a joke. Joe blow could spend 7000$ to 9000$ and get off scott free, so im sure Khabi will have zero problem. why you would think he needs to know a judge or pay one off is beyond me?? its not like he murdered someone. he was close to his home and driving over the speed limit. big deal we have all had a drink or two and then drove. hell i know of city police that do it.

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Anyone who has had a DUI will tell you that the justice system is a joke. Joe blow could spend 7000$ to 9000$ and get off scott free, so im sure Khabi will have zero problem. why you would think he needs to know a judge or pay one off is beyond me?? its not like he murdered someone. he was close to his home and driving over the speed limit. big deal we have all had a drink or two and then drove. hell i know of city police that do it.
We do not have a justice system. We had a legal system. Anyone who expects justice from our judicial system needs to spend some time with their nose in the books of law rather than sitting in front of their computers all day, or watching that next awesome episode of American idle and stuffing their fat faces with whatever food's they choose.

Our judicial system is an absolute joke, and everyone should be embarrassed by their, and their parents apathy to allow it to be so.

The more and more you look into it, the more and more you become disgusted.

But don't worry, every year we spend more and more on police enforcement. And every year we get more and more crime. But again... not to worry. Eventually we will have enough police officers, prisons and futile legal establishments that all crime will evaporate.

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02-17-2010, 04:47 PM
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Anyone who has had a DUI will tell you that the justice system is a joke. Joe blow could spend 7000$ to 9000$ and get off scott free, so im sure Khabi will have zero problem. why you would think he needs to know a judge or pay one off is beyond me?? its not like he murdered someone. he was close to his home and driving over the speed limit. big deal we have all had a drink or two and then drove. hell i know of city police that do it.
You're wrong actually. I know two people who screwed up once years ago. They spent over $15 000 on a lawyer. Both didn't get off. It depends on who the judge is too. There are no "guarantees".

It also depends on your case. If you barely blew over, they will hire a specialist in that area that could try proving why you blew a little over. Things like that is where you can get off. If you blow over by a lot then good luck. If you did blow over by a lot, maybe a lawyer brings up past cases where a person who did the same thing got off.

Lots of options. It's just not a "guarantee"

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The hits just keep on coming.

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He had one glass of wine.

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1 glass wine wine is like drinking a glass of pop haha

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Sounds like he had more than 1 glass

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