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02-18-2010, 11:42 PM
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Find people that like USA Hockey to do the Olympic broadcasts on NBC

Seriously???? NBC with the royal screw job on their hockey coverage as usual. I just got done watching the USA game on my DVR and all the canadian d-bags could talk about was USA getting "hammered" by canada if they don't play better......hmmmmmmmmm is that the same canadian team that the Swiss took to a shoot out????? Are they really trying to lower ratings????

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Actually, it was all started and lead by none other than the immortal Canadian homer Pierre McGuire...Olczyk disagreed with him during the game action and then both Milbury and Roenick disagreed with him during the intermissions. It wasn't until after the game that all three said that the defense for Team USA needed to improve before facing Canada on Sunday, but honestly...that was the truth...

The forwards for Team USA have to do a better job recognizing when the US defensemen pinch down the wall to make sure that the third forward (F3) stays high to cover the point. Additionally, the F3 must do a better job recognizing when both F1 and F2 are working the puck or forechecking below the goal line and maintain a position high enough from which they can read the forecheck and support or support the defensemen on the backcheck, allowing the defensemen to stand up a little more through the NZ and negate a quick or odd-man attack to constantly force the defensemen to back in to the tops of the faceoff circles and generate quality opportunities.

The Swiss did a great job of buying into their system as a team. They worked hard, took short shifts, sacrificed all over the rink, and most importantly made sure to play simple defensive hockey and force Team Canada to beat them to take the win.

The elite teams in this event will pick you apart if you give them the opportunity to do so. In every game at every level each team will get a handful of scoring chances if they match the work ethhic of their opponent simply by the back and forth nature of the game. The way to maximize your chances of winning however usually come down to two things...1) taking advantage of your chances when you get them and 2) doing all you can to limit the opportunities you hand to your opponent.

It's a very simple formula. You play solid, responsible, simple defensive hockey, give it all you can each shift, and remember your fundamentals and you can theoretically beat any opponent you face...

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SLake I totally agree with your analysis of the team. Milburry(sp?) was right there with McGuire the whole time and to be honest i wouldn't mind the criticism if it was rightly placed. As you pointed out the third forward in(F3) is responsible for reading play and reacting accordingly. Unfortunately they were hammering on the defense which wasn't the problem. Part two to that is.....is Canada really that good this year or are they just a collection of selfish allstars? Do they plan on playing an all-star type game? Oddly enough it was USA's performance against Switzerland that was "proof" to what they were saying yet we know what happened a few hours later with canada.

And really to the bigger point....Why aren't we listening to American announcers instead of people like Milburry and McGuire in the first place. To me this is like put the blue jackets announcers on FSN-TN for a Preds game.....only a little worse.

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SLake I totally agree with your analysis of the team. Milburry(sp?) was right there with McGuire the whole time and to be honest i wouldn't mind the criticism if it was rightly placed. As you pointed out the third forward in(F3) is responsible for reading play and reacting accordingly. Unfortunately they were hammering on the defense which wasn't the problem. Part two to that is.....is Canada really that good this year or are they just a collection of selfish allstars? Do they plan on playing an all-star type game? Oddly enough it was USA's performance against Switzerland that was "proof" to what they were saying yet we know what happened a few hours later with canada.

And really to the bigger point....Why aren't we listening to American announcers instead of people like Milburry and McGuire in the first place. To me this is like put the blue jackets announcers on FSN-TN for a Preds game.....only a little worse.
I agree that the problem was mainly the forwards not supporting the defensemen, however situations like Gleason's shorthanded pinch at the offensive blueline with two forecheckers right on him was the only one I remember Olczyk agreeing with Pierre and rightfully so.

Olczyk couldn't put it into words, but he defended Suter when on a regroup with all the forwards stuck standing still at the blue line, Suter dumped the puck deep into the corner and raced in to retrieve it successfully...that's because being the Hawks color guy, he sees Suter, Hamhuis, Klein, and even Sulzer do it all the time...it's a Predator thing and the smart decision there as well. McGuire was way off base on that criticism and I thought looked dumber when Suter cleanly got to and controlled the puck...

As for the commentating crew, it's simply based on NBC's existing contracts with their NHL Game of the Week personalities. Nothing more than that, but still...it stinks...my only hope is that with McGuire's pre-existing gig on CBC hockey coverage that he will not be a part of the MSNBC telecast Sunday for USA-Canada. I couldn't stand to have the premier Canadian homer on the US telecast...that would be like listening to Rimer call a Preds game on FS-TN!!!

One last thing, your mention of all-star teams...it's my one gut feeling about the US...they haven't all bought into the team system yet like the European teams do. I've seen it with both Canada, the US, and even Russia last night...the "star" players aren't always bearing down to make a play...a lot of extra passes and extra stickhandling trying to make plays 1 on 1. It really reminds me of Herb Brooks team selection and training philosophy leading up to the 1980 games. For years, the NHL put all-star teams up against the Soviets with no success due to the lack of chemistry, conditioning, and overall lack of a "team" concept. I look at the Canadian and US rosters and think about them only having four practices and two games under their belts when the puck drops Sunday and wonder seriously are these teams the best they can be? The answer is clearly no, but at least they are on the same footing...

It will honestly shine through when the elimination rounds come into play...whichever teams medal will be the ones that get the most players to buy into their team philosophy. Certainly talent will carry you so far, but it won't get you on the medal stand alone...

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Milbury is an embarrassment on TV imo. Get someone on the air who isn't as polarizing. He doesn't provide analysis, just shots at guys. And creates arguments on air, cutting into other commentator's analysis. Judging by his track record as a GM, I don't see why anyone would trust him.

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Olczyk couldn't put it into words, but he defended Suter when on a regroup with all the forwards stuck standing still at the blue line, Suter dumped the puck deep into the corner and raced in to retrieve it successfully...that's because being the Hawks color guy, he sees Suter, Hamhuis, Klein, and even Sulzer do it all the time...it's a Predator thing and the smart decision there as well. McGuire was way off base on that criticism and I thought looked dumber when Suter cleanly got to and controlled the puck...
That was funny. McGuire practically screamed that it was totally the wrong play, and what was he thinking. Then when Suter is defended and that the forwards just need to be aware there, than McGuire was, "uh, yeah, forwards should help cover there".

I thought it was a good aggressive play. A little risky, but with upside.

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Who has one more point right now?
Also, we have 9 goals for, 2 against.
Canada has 10 goals for, 2 against.

I'd say we're pretty close.

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Another thought here...the one guy with "Team USA" connections that is on this telecast that no one has mentioned, but irritates me probably as much as McGuire is...none other than Jeremy Roenick.

Roenick when left off Team USA during the last Olympic games ripped USA Hockey for leaving him off the roster, said some pretty nasty stuff about their selection process and brain trust, and followed it all up with very publicly announcing that he hoped Canada destroyed the US in the tournament...

Sucked for him that Canada finished out of the medals, but...this is the guy that NBC chose to lead their intermission analysis? Gimme a break...

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